Discussion in 'Edmonton Oilers' started by Bryanbryoil, Jan 24, 2019.
Last thread hit 1K replies. Lots of positives on the farm at the moment.
New thread needs new highlights-
Does anyone who watches the Condors frequently have an opinion as to whether or not the Condors might be capable of winning a Calder Cup if we were to send down Puljujarvi on top of the recently sent down Yamamoto.
On that note, and why I keep talking about Benson and his playmaking...
Based on his play picking up, and the comments from Nicholson hinting that guys like Bouchard will spend time in the AHL, I think Bear has a great shot at making the big club next year.
Looks like Caleb picked up some hotdogging habits from Connor. Doesn't even celly with his linemates in a blowout hockey game.
I wonder how far off some of these guys are.
I think Bear and Jones can make some noise on the defence next year. But the big question is Benson and Marody (plus of course Pulju and Yamamoto). Plus toss in a few other wildcards like Bouchard, Persson, and Lagesson.
I don’t want to pencil any of these guy into the main roster, but I’m at least liking the waiver exempt depth for next year’s team.
The one thing that's very noticeable in our player development is that the Condors are being led by prospects and not a bunch of AHL vets as in past years. Pretty much every position has a prospect playing a large part. I'm sure that having AHL vets would improve the chances of having the team go far in the playoffs. But, I imagine that the fans also welcome seeing players who will have a good shot of having a successful NHL career.
The team is actually playing very well and have beat the best teams in the AHL recently. Good signs.
After a rough start with injuries and slow production, Bear is now ahead of his point-per-game pace than he was a year ago, production which earned him a call-up to the NHL. He's really picked it up, and his numbers are looking better and better, including sporting the 2nd best +/- on the team while playing on the top-pairing for a while now. Good to see him rebound the way he has, and let's hope he keeps it up. We could really, really use a couple of Bouchard, Jones, Bear and Persson (and perhaps Logan Day as a long-shot?) to pan out into top-4 Dmen within the next 2-3 years.
In the last topic I commented a bit on this.
In the games I saw early on, he seemed a bit off. I'm not sure if it was physical or mental. I don't see all the games by any means, but the ones I've seen he's been a lot better of late.
I'm still convinced he'll end up in the top 20 for defenseman points. My hot take.
Quite a few people talking about Benson here, so just my take having watched most Condors games this year: He won't succeed in the NHL with the style of game he's playing. It's on the outside, it's passive, very hot and cold, and he relies on standing around in spaces that defenders at the AHL level leave open for him.
The reason he's racking up assists is 100% Cooper Marody. Without Marody on his line, Benson would have half the points he has right now. It's no coincidence that Hebig and Benson were having a great go, then Marody got called up, and they weren't nearly as effective. Marody beats guys, he goes right through guys, and that makes a ton of room for his linemates.
I'm a huge Benson guy, I followed him all through juniors, I'm rooting for him more than anybody else. I want him to succeed more than any other Oilers prospect, and I believe he can do it. But he is being carried, Marody stirs the drink.
EDIT: To clarify, I'm not convinced Marody is an NHL player either, but he's definitely too damn good for the AHL. He just makes things happen at that level.
I'll just again have to offer my apologies to Jay Woodcroft. He's basically doing everything I wanted Fleming to do in the past - focusing on development and giving our prospects key roles - and he's winning while doing it. Pretty much the only part of the organization I'm excited about this year. Will have to follow closer.
I mean, you watch more games than me, but the games I've seen I would disagree with your assessment, and I'm on the other side of things. I was never a big Benson fan. I think his assists are not 100 percent Marody. I think he's held his own. He has been hot and cold yeah, but that happens to a lot of rookies in their first year in the pros.
I do agree that Marody as of now is the better AHL player, but I don't buy Benson is simply a product of Marody.
Send Marody to a skating coach this summer.
He’s such a smart, skilled player. If he works on his skating, the AHL would be in the rear view mirror.
Outside of a handful of players on the big club, the Condors are the only thing good about this organization right now.
I certainly hope you're right.
Either way, your constant updates are very appreciated by those that follow this thread!
My thing there is Benson's game has never been a speed or hustle style game. It's to be in the right position at all times and anticipate the game incredibly.
Benson plays to the level of his linemates pretty much everywhere.
Put him with a 60 point player he will put up similar numbers. Put him with 3rd line grinders he will work with them. He is a Swiss Army knife and a very good complimentary piece.
He's known for his playmaking but his shot totals in the AHL are actually pretty good. Leads the team in shots (only by a small margin). I'm not sure if we should be concerned that he only has 5 goals on 106 shots. For him to put up those point totals with only a 4.7% shooting percentage... he could really explode next year if he's on the farm team.
Condors up 2-1 on Tucson heading in to the third. Yams and Spooner are in. Team is obviously disjointed new guys, new lines. The last time Pulju and Yams joined the team it felt this way as well, a little bit off. Goes to show you can't just skill up and everything gets better.
Logan Day made a fantastic stretch pass to Russell for his break away goal.
Great stuff from the Currie-Benson-Marody line. Lagesson rimmed it around and both Marody and Benson just left the puck to go around the boards right to Currie for a rip bar down. 3-1. I do think Benson may get an apple on it after they look at it.
Currie has goals in 7 games in a row.
Shane Starrett is absolutely playing amazing in the third. Has made a couple unreal stops.
Learning moments for Benson and Yamamoto. Marody dumped the puck about 35 seconds in to his shift, and then immediately went for a change. Benson decides to stay out and ends up taking a bad hooking penalty with 4 minutes left in the game.
Yamamoto on the PK, chipped the puck out of the zone to himself, and instead of getting it deep, he tried to walk the d-man. The puck came back quickly and Starrett ended up having to make a huge stop.
Bako hangs on for the 3-1 win. Starrett for sure has to be a star in this game. He's been fantastic all season.
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