Prospect Info: Bakersfield Condors '17-18 Thread

[CycloneSweep]

I assume so, I know that it was implemented when Eakins was here, not sure about now.

From interviews I have heard absolutely.

The can't score, rough goaltending and lots of shots with no success.

Both teams second last in scoring, both teams 3rd last overall.

Can't be a coincidence.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Hasn't even been playing, he's only been dressed for 8 games. Cant figure out why unless he's injured. He is also a +4.

EDIT: Still injured, looks like concussion.

Damn. Just our luck this season. He was off to a fantastic start, playing on the top pairing with Simpson (from what I can gather), was putting up a nice point-per-game percentage for his first pro season as a Dman, and was outshining all our other D prospects. I truly hope it's nothing too serious. I have big expectations for him in the future.

 

[Hugo McStiglitz]

Paigin was placed on unconditional waivers today.

 

[Digger12]

Paigin was placed on unconditional waivers today.

That seems weird, a little over 6 months after signing him to a 2 year ELC.

 

[Alowlyoilersfan]

Paigin was placed on unconditional waivers today.

i am disappointed for sure, but if it wasn't working for him, and he wants to go back home, I get it

was he given enough support down there to succeed? that is my question is guess

 

[ChaoticOrange]

i am disappointed for sure, but if it wasn't working for him, and he wants to go back home, I get it

was he given enough support down there to succeed? that is my question is guess

Not likely. Coach loves vets, and there was quite a lineup in front of Z.

 

[Digger12]

Paigin sure sounded like he was in it for the long-ish haul from this interview.

https://thehockeywriters.com/ziyat-paigin-oilers-prospect/

I wonder what changed?

 

[joestevens29]

Paigin sure sounded like he was in it for the long-ish haul from this interview.

Oilers' Prospect Ziyat Paigin Happy About Move Overseas

I wonder what changed?

Reality

 

[McJadeddog]

Sucks that Bear is still out. It means that the head injury must be at least somewhat severe, as he's been out for 3 weeks now.

 

[Canovin]

Reality

Or language barrier.

Oilers cut this kid loose after 12 games? That's ridiculous

 

[CycloneSweep]

Or language barrier.

Oilers cut this kid loose after 12 games? That's ridiculous

He had a single good KHL season. Was absolutely AWFUL last year and couldn't earn any playing time with Bear injured. In the time he did play he looked quite bad.
He was a 7th round pick, what were people expecting?

 

[Canovin]

He had a single good KHL season. Was absolutely AWFUL last year and couldn't earn any playing time with Bear injured. In the time he did play he looked quite bad.
He was a 7th round pick, what were people expecting?

That single good season in the KHL season warrant a much longer look. The Oiler should treat their later rounds pick the same way they treat their higher end picks.

 

[CycloneSweep]

That single good season in the KHL season warrant a much longer look. The Oiler should treat their later rounds pick the same way they treat their higher end picks.

Could be a mutual thing too for all we know.
After he comes here, realizes he isn't as good as he thought and hates north america and wants to go home.

 

[belair]

Or language barrier.

Oilers cut this kid loose after 12 games? That's ridiculous

IIRC we still retain his rights because of how quickly he signed. I'm not sure it's likely but if we parted ways amicably there's a chance he could return eventually.

 

[oXo Cube]

Could be a mutual thing too for all we know.
After he comes here, realizes he isn't as good as he thought and hates north america and wants to go home.

It absolutely is a mutual thing. Players have guaranteed contracts. Teams can't terminate them just because.

In any case, it's clear over this season and last that Paigin has some entitlement issues. He thinks he is far better than he actually is. Won't accept being told otherwise.

 

[Arpeggio]

It absolutely is a mutual thing. Players have guaranteed contracts. Teams can't terminate them just because.

In any case, it's clear over this season and last that Paigin has some entitlement issues. He thinks he is far better than he actually is. Won't accept being told otherwise.

That's quite the leap. It could also be that they decided he should develop more in a country he's more comfortable playing in? Maybe he'll get more playing time in Russia? There's a number of things it could be before "he's a spoiled brat with entitlement issues".

 

[CycloneSweep]

That's quite the leap. It could also be that they decided he should develop more in a country he's more comfortable playing in? Maybe he'll get more playing time in Russia? There's a number of things it could be before "he's a spoiled brat with entitlement issues".

He was getting LESS playing time in Russia in a even lesser league than the AHL.

 

[Arpeggio]

He was getting LESS playing time in Russia in a even lesser league than the AHL.

I'm just saying no one knows that it's entitlement issues. Maybe he just wasn't good enough, or is in bad shape. But to say "he definitely thinks he's better than he is and he won't accept being told otherwise" without anything to support that is silly.

 

[oXo Cube]

That's quite the leap. It could also be that they decided he should develop more in a country he's more comfortable playing in? Maybe he'll get more playing time in Russia? There's a number of things it could be before "he's a spoiled brat with entitlement issues".

The entire reason he came over here in the first place was because he wasn't happy playing in the Russia version of the AHL, thought he was being mistreated by his organization.

 

[Tyrolean]

He was getting LESS playing time in Russia in a even lesser league than the AHL.

I don't consider the KHL a lesser league than the AHL. If anything it is a higher league.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I don't consider the KHL a lesser league than the AHL. If anything it is a higher league.

He was playing in the KHLs feeder league for half the year.

 

[joestevens29]

I'd be very surprised if it were the Oilers initiated this. This is generally a player wanting to go back home.

Generally teams will let the guy go to keep him happy and hopefully if he ever decides to come back he will remember that we granted him his wish. Although I don't know how many guys ever really come back.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

It is odd that it's a contract termination vs. what they did with Yakimov where they just assigned him.

So is Paigin still technically Oiler property then (similar to Yakimov, who doesn't have a contract, but RFA rights are still owned the team), or is he a UFA?

With it being mutual, odds are both sides looked at the LHD depth chart (Klefbom, Sekera, & Russell all signed for 4 years, (plus Nurse, who is a golden boy in the organization), and saw that he had no shot for at least a couple of seasons.

The Oil needed the contract spot, and Paigin likely gets a bigger payday so it does work out, though I would have liked to see him get a longer look.

 

[Staghorn]

He was a 7th round pick... this is likely the most conversation he is ever going to generate. The odds of him making it are EXTREMELY low. Good that the Oil can free up a contract on a player that isn't working out. Buh Bye.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Is Bear dead? Has anyone heard anything?