Baertschi scratched again.

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  1. Skobel24

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    Assuming this isn't injury related, should the Flames consider sending him back down? (assuming he wouldn't need to clear waivers, as I am not familiar how that works) He's been limited to the 3rd line so far this year, and in my opinion, is struggling to really click with his linemates. When Stempniak is back, it's going to push another winger out. Would it be better to have him play top minutes in the AHL? Or is it more likely to see someone else dealt when Stemp is back?
     
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    Sven Baertschi needs to play. And play in the NHL. He has paid his AHL dues already. When Stempniak comes back chances are another forward or two will be hurt so I wouldn't worry about it until the time comes.
     
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    I'd personally like to see Baertschi with Colborne and Cammalleri, and push Galiardi down with Monahan and Hudler. Baertschi doesn't seem to be clicking with Monahan and Hudler.
     
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    I think there's a lot of things that can be done:

    1) Give him different line-mates.

    2) Give him the penalty kill to work on his defensive game (if that's the issue) or the power play to work on his offensive game

    3) Feaster needs to trade away Hartely's bad toys in Jackman and other fringe players that take away development ice time

    4) Top line minutes in Abby

    I order these by ranking them by personal preference
     
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    If he doesn't respond to this benching, his next trip will be to Abbotsford.

    Didn't we see this movie last season? He played his way back, and finished quite strong.

    Maybe he's got the Curse of the Iginla, slow starts?
     
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    ^ Agreed with MarkGio. As much as I like healthy competition, there's too many wingers and one/two of them need to be dealt for the younger kids. There could be other disciplinary/ways of teaching for a young player to learn.
     
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    I'd like to see this.

    Glencross - Stajan - Jones
    Baertschi - Colborne - Cammalleri
    Galiardi - Monahan - Hudler
    Bouma - Backlund - McGratton

    When Stempniak is back, I'd slot him on the top line, and likely put Jones where Galiardi is, and bench McGratton.
     
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    I like this idea.
     
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    Yeah this is true. It certainly looks like last year is repeating itself
     
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    Swap Galiardi and Backlund imo

    When everyone is healthy I'd like to see

    Glencross - Stajan - Jones
    Sven - Colborne - Cammy
    Backlund - Monahan - Hudler
    Bouma - Galiardi - Stempniak (trade him for defensive help)
     
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    Yea it appears this way but Iginla never started this slowly. I think maybe sending him to Abbs and giving someone else a chance isn't the worse idea.

    Sven has the skill to be a very good player he just hasn't been able to put it all together and sometimes it takes a while (look at Kadri).
     
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    I really don't like the idea of having Backlund play the wing. I'd rather have him continue to develop at center. However, if the Flames did this lineup, I'd rather see Bouma at center, and Galiardi at the wing.
     
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    I am willing to let Hartley bench players if he really thinks it will help. I do not like the idea of having three 4th line wingers on the roster, and one playing in the top 9 (if indeed that is how this roster is going to be used). If you are going to replace Baertschi in the top 9, do it with Hanowski, who has earned a chance and has the talent to play there.
     
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    Bouma hasn't played center since the CHL I think Galiardi at least haivng played in preseason would be a better move.

    Backlund with Monahan makes a lot of sense as Monahan still needs help at faceoffs and in the defensive zone he still needs some work and Backlund is very good at defense.

    Imo with Colborne and Monahan both playing as well as they have at center we are either going to have to accept Backlund as a defensive center or move him to the wing. He was amazing last year during the lockout as a winger I don't see why we don't try it.
     
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    Bouma looked solid last time he was given a chance maybe Hartley sees something who knows.
     
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    Yes he was. Wasn't he getting more points than guys like Kopitar? Its amazing how the right situation could be the difference maker!
     
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    He had the best ppg in the league out of anyone that played at least 10 games (Hagelin beat him but only played 8 games)

    I can't understand why some people don't want him there it isn't like he can't play pk as a winger and his few shifts a night on the 4th line won't be missed that much.
     
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    Wait, seriously?

    I retract my previous statement.
     
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    He played exceptionally well with Huds and Money. I don't understand why that line keeps getting broken up. Sven and Sean were amazing together. Let them continue to play together a generate chances. NO use letting Sven watch from the press box. And no Hartley, that is not part of development. At all. Players need to play to develop.
     
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    [fieldset=Morning Skate Report (Hartley)]We're going to have a video session this afternoon. I told him on the ice that I want to show him where we need an improvement. At the same time, guys like Jackman, McGrattan and Bouma, they're bringing something every day to the table.[/fieldset]
    So is there a reason that attending a video session and playing in a game are mutually exclusive?
     
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    I want Backlund at least tried at wing, then move Stempniak for a bloody dman. Why hasn't this been done yet?
     
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    He most likely wants Sven to focus on when other players do something they want him to do. Yes playing is important but seeing your mistakes and ways to fix them are also important. It sounds like what ever Sven was sat for last time he hasn't worked on in Hartley's eyes.
     
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    Hartley has no patience at all this year.
     
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    Because Backlund is a bum and doesn't deserve to play on anything other than the 4th line, according to our board anyway.

    I agree that Hartley is proving to be the least patient person in this entire rebuild.
     

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