I just got a new pair of goal pads (well, used, but new to me), they are Brown "Illusion" pads. As the guy was ringing them up I commented that they seemed like they were in really good shape and he said he gets a lot of Browns because people don't like them. When I asked why, he said they're bad for butterfly. That people buy them thinking they'll be good butterfly pads but they're not. I felt like an idiot so I didn't ask why, but now I'm wondering. I have only been playing for 6 months but I play 3-4 times a week and I am pretty pleased with the progess I've made in that short time in terms of skill, but I wonder if anyone knows what this guy is talking about, and if it will make much of a difference for me anyway at this level. I definitely would consider myself a butterfly goalie. It was never a conscious decision to have that style but that's how it developed. Thanks in advance for any answers.