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wait, people think the wings are a cup contender?
Dude, didn't you see? We made it to round 2 last year?
wait, people think the wings are a cup contender?
That's not how the world works.
I'd say guys like Crawford, Quick and Rask have a much better chance than Howard -- if for no other reason than the team they play for. But also, because two of the goalies have done it before. And one just came fairly close
That's not how the world works.
I'd say guys like Crawford, Quick and Rask have a much better chance than Howard -- if for no other reason than the team they play for. But also, because two of the goalies have done it before. And one just came fairly close
a different starting Goalie has won the cup every single year for the past 12 seasons now
you have this sentiment that just because they've done it before it's somehow measurably more likely that they will do it again and that's cool and all but there's no actual data that supports that in recent years
wait, people think the wings are a cup contender?
The Wings were 1 goal away from eliminating the eventual Stanley Cup champs.
If that's not a contender, I don't know what is???
a different starting Goalie has won the cup every single year for the past 12 seasons now
you have this sentiment that just because they've done it before it's somehow measurably more likely that they will do it again and that's cool and all but there's no actual data that supports that in recent years
My point remains and is quite valid, Bob. ANY team can win the Cup. Howard has as good a chance as anyone.
While that's true -- it think most (maybe not in here) would that Chicago and Boston and LA are better suited to win the cup than Detroit.
Who are their goalies?
The Wings were 1 goal away from eliminating the eventual Stanley Cup champs.
If that's not a contender, I don't know what is???
Not a contender right now. IMO
This is Murica, comrad. Support the war or get out
The Red Wings are my team, whether I happen to like the current bunch a whole lot or not much.
Over the last few years, I've seen a lot of players come in that I don't really like and seen players I like go.
There are some people who love every inch of "their team." I'm not of that mind.
Thanks
I just read it the Crawford thread.
It's a refreshing board.
Opinions are all over the map.
They don't seem as willing to put players up on silly pedestals like they do here.
Reading the Crawford thread, it's not really at odds with what I believe, as I believe both Howard and Crawford are overpaid.
I guess I don't see the point in spending $5 to $6M on a goalie -- long term, when capable goalies are fairly easy to pick up on the cheap. Unless a goalie is out-of-this-world good...
And neither Howard or Crawford are "out of this world."
Such as who? The only player put on a pedestal here is Datsyuk. Maybe Zetterberg. Howard has enough critiques against him to keep him from looking like a god on these boards, he is just getting defended a lot because (despite you agreeing they are similar goaltenders) they are arguing with you about how important Crawford is to a cup win in comparison.
Disagree.
Howie -- is extremely overrated on this board. Next to Dekeyser, he's probably the most overrated Red Wing.
Aside from the graet goaltending debate currently going on....
I just hope the last couple years in Florida haven't ruined Weiss. He was such a great two way talent and smart player. I don't think doing things the right way will be a problem for him! My confidence in this signing remains very high!
Disagree.
Howie -- is extremely overrated on this board. Next to Dekeyser, he's probably the most overrated Red Wing.
All I see from you is negativity and look at Flips stats per 5 on 5 ice time, if we gave him a chance he's so much better then everyone else. We need a better goalie then howard but shouldnt make more then 4 million.
What would have had the wings do instead of singing howard? Trade for Bernier? Whos even less proven then Howard and hasnt won a cup so is no good.
I heard the same thing about Horton when he was leaving Florida, that he just didn't care anymore. Amazing what winning does for someone eh? I guess Horton decided he wanted to be miserable again with a wagon full of cash, though.
And you're saying other teams fans don't overrate their own players?
No. Of course they do.
And if I was a Habs fan, I'd be arguing with the Habs fans who overrate Price.
No your point is not valid.
It has no validity whatsoever.
Howard has a better chance at winning the cup than Florida's goalie.
He has a worse chance at winning the cup than Rask.
Um, not on paper he doesn't. As I said, each team to begin the season has a 1/30 chance of winning the Cup. You can't dispute that. Thirty teams in the league. Only one Stanley Cup.