GDT: Avs vs Jets 6PM MST: We're better on the road right?

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  1. The Kingslayer

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    Not really their fault. The Avs hot start really gave people this idea that not only were we playoff contenders but cup contenders. Many people were saying that in GDT's. The real ones know what this team is and I think this team is a bubble team. Hell we only made it by winning the final game of the season last season. I expect something similar again.
     
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    Avs aren't even playing like a bubble team lately, they look like a lottery team
     
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    They played well the last few games imo. I thought they looked good. Special teams killed us, goaltending killed us and Ian Cole killed us.
     
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    Yikes.... was on a plane to Calgary so didn't see this one but 6 goals on 20 shots is... not ideal.


    41-20p shot advantage and we scored 4 goals and still lost. Games like this really hurt.
     
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    Absolutely true. Grubauer should statistically have a few more pucks hit him right? First two goals were Coles fault. Especially that two on two. What the heck...
     
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    Thing is, we weren’t getting insane goaltending to start the year either, we were just playing a little less lazily defensively.

    We can win games if our goaltending is even just solid. Mediocre might even do. But trash fire goaltending isn’t something we can overcome yet.
     
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  7. Pierce Hawthorne

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    We were definitely getting better then we are now though. Before December Varly was in the vezina conversations.


    With even just average goaltending the last 15 games we'd probably have 2-3 more wins which would make all kinds of difference right now.
     
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    Anyone know what the shot attempt count was?
     
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    At least 3. Probably closer to 5-6.
     
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    This team's drop off has coincided with Ian Cole looking like a #6 defensemen for the last month-plus, and at a time when this team has desperately needed someone to step up in his place, nobody has. At least not defensively.

    I still maintain that by far - BY FAR - the most disappointing player this season is Erik Johnson. He just doesn't look effective whatsoever out there. Looks like a poor man's Adam Larsson right now, and that's not good. He can't seem to catch a pass to save his life, has lost all offensive instincts, and isn't doing a good job as a shutdown guy against the other team's top players.

    He needs to get his **** together and fast.
     
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    Whatever it is, this team finds ways to lose instead of win. They've been falling behind every game and making an attempt to come back only to come up short. I wouldn't say they've look good. They haven't played a full 60 minute game pretty much majority of the season so far. Tonight they looked good, but again not for full 60 minutes. They quickly fell behind by 2 again and then decided to play hard for another come back attempt. Grubauer was probably the biggest reason for a loss tonight but you cant keep playing catch up every game
     
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    Well that was fun.
     
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    Can't take a penalty, or it's an auto goal against this year. That's a good way to find yourself missing the playoffs. Really miss the PK from last year.
     
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    Well he lacks the fundamentals to be a starting goalie in NHL and still there are people who want to give him a chance because he has a winning record. People just don't remember he has gotten absurd amount of goal support and sneaked his way out of a losses after getting pulled. Also I am seeing way too much posts where guys are saying "Grubauer sucks and Varly sucks" even though one has 2.80 GAA with .912 SVS% and the other one has 3.29 GAA with .895 SVS%. That second round pick we traded to Caps is sunken cost now and Grubauer shouldn't get any more leash because of that. This time it didn't work so best thing would be to move on from him.
     
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  15. Soedy

    Soedy What about the turnovers, Erik?

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    Yeah, but what should we do now? Trade him? His value is low right now.
     
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    We are still a bubble team fighting for a wildcard. That´s it. Dallas is not better than us, but they find a way to win a game against St. Louis, LA or even Chicago. We are lucky to earn an OT-Point against those teams. This season our division is not a bloodbath like years before and still we can´t take advantage for good.
     
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    Give most of the starts to Varly and Francouz for a while. Let Grubs train with the team and build some confidence againts easier opponents. Avs have 19 games before the trade deadline. In ideal situation you split starts with Varly and Francouz like 8-8 and give Grubauer couple of games to showcase himself. Varly and Francouz should be extended before dealing with Grubauer. Grubauer isn't this bad but right now he doesn't have any confidence and looks way too much defeated after giving up goals.
     
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    Could tell this wasn't going to end well when Grubauer looked shaky early. They needed him against this Jets squad. Gave up some real bad rebounds and left the net wide open twice but was bailed out by good defensive plays. Unfortunately those good defensive plays disappeared on a couple goals, then he gave up some more softies.

    Gonna be a huge game for Varly against Calgary. He usually looks a little rusty his first game back but he needs to find a way to come up big. This team really needs a good performance from a goaltender. They might be on the verge of losing confidence here with all the breaks going against them. Things will snowball out of control if that happens.
     
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  20. klozge

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    That game was lost by Bednar. Keeping a goalie in who clearly couldn't stop anything was puzzling to say it nicely. Sakic needs to get rid of both Grubauer and Bednar. Quickly.
     
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    If someone has told you Landy would be 3 goals back from the league lead after half the season is past what would you tell them?
     
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    Yeah they are. The Avs are one line. Some random middle pair d man and ahl goaltending, Dallas is a better team.
     
  23. Soedy

    Soedy What about the turnovers, Erik?

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    I was more concerned about the next year. But yeah I agree, let's just hope he digs himself out of the hole he's currently in.
     
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    Even at the start of this very season Avs were really good on the PK and defensively in general. Then Bednar started to punish physical play (Zadorov) and everything involving defense went downhill.
     
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    Seriously what does it take to get Francouz a start?

    The Avs goaltending has been pathetic for a while and the team is sinking like a bag of rocks. Francouz looked solid in the few minutes that he played. There is nothing to lose but still Bednar goes with Grubauer who looks like ****.

    Varly is an UFA so it makes perfect sense to see what Pavel can do before possibly losing both to free agency. It's going to be ridiculous if Francouz does not get a single start in the NHL this season.
     

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