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Post-Game Talk: Avs vs CBJ Lose 2-1: The "We Got 'Sacco'd'" Edition

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DanishAvsfan said:
I live in Denmark which is central European time (Greenwich + 1). I also have a very strict schedule due to work and family obligations.That means that I don't get to watch a lot of games. Pretty much the only games I can watch are games broadcasted during the day in NA. The point here is that I do not have a lot of evidence to go by in my statements so I do not feel comfortable with having a lot of opinions. Nevertheless, I will say that based on what I have seen, I don't think that Sacco is getting the best out of the team. I also do not think that management is good at getting players that is good at playing a style of playing which is entertaining and which is likely to bringing in a winning culture - not at this point at any rate. If yesterday's game is any indication then I think it is fair to say that out team lacks players who are good at playing a passing game, and who are good at keeping possession of the puck. According to what I observed (and to what I have read on this and others sites) several of our players are actually bad at passing the puck and controlling the puck such as O'Byrne, Hunwick, Jones and Zanon. Moreover, these same players a given a lot of playing time. I just don't see how you become a good team at the highest level if you cannot pass the puck and control the puck with regularity at this level. I don't care what people say about the speed of our transition game, our aggressive forecheck, and the emphasis on getting tougher and blocking shots. Combine that with the dump and chase tactics that I saw deployed last night, which was TOTALLY nullified by an AHL calibre line-up I don't see much reason to be optimistic at this point. No way. Moreover, I was actually quite pissed last night for having spent 3 hours watching a product that sucked so hard. I remember that back in the day when we had a perennial cup contender we were also told that the Avs was a fast up-tempo team with a great transition game. It work at times, especially in 00-01, but has it really worked that well since? I don't think so. If any of you watched the Wing vs. the Hawks last night you wold have seen a COMPLETELY different level of chemistry between players, and a much higher level of performance and entertainment because they were able to connect with each other consistently. Really, I do not know a lot about hockey, the closest thing to hockey I ever played was floorball, so I maybe completely off, but I still believe that the Avs have a problem with how they are building their roster and the brand of play they are trying promote.
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Good points. You did see a really boring game though. IMO Sacco needed to make some adjustments to the style of play and he didn't.....but there ya go.
 
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dahrougem2 said:
He has not done a fine job, he's done a horrible job; just look at the Avs' record vs the NW division over the last 3 and 1/2 years, its disgusting. The non-stop shuffling of the lines, the benchings, not-making adjustments, not getting the best out of his players. We all know that this defense is horrible but when healthy this team hasn't done anything either
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When has the team been healthy? This is a prime case of overrating our players and blamming the coach when they haven't me expectations. Who exactly has he held back? Duchene? RoR? Landeskog? McGinn? PaP? How good do you think they are? Its literally been a decade, three coaches of listening to this yet the avs never get better with these changes. The overall record has been fine, they're a 500 team. Maybe a bit better when completely healthy. I hope ruff comes in so people see a coach doesn't turn Jones into an all star.
 

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I don't think I can remember an overtime game in the past five years where the Avs didn't give up at least one odd man rush. Usually it is several. I now come to expect it when the team plays in the extra period. They are totally lost when it comes to making smart pinches in overtime.

Anyway, I thought the end result was poetic justice. O'Reilly putting one in his own net was hilarious. Hunwick was seven seconds away from leading the team in TOI again. And he is the guy that makes a bad pinch in overtime which leads to the penalty Columbus ultimately scores on. Fitting stuff all around.

Varlamov was great again. He will be the team MVP at the end of the season. He's the main reason this team isn't 29th or 30th in the league.
 
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Didn't get to see the game.

How did O'reilly play?
Would he be a steal for fantasy or just leave him for a while?
 
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Nihiliste said:
Badly, he will need some time to get into game shape.
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I wouldn't go as far to say badly, but very average and out of game shape. He had a couple moments where he made some decent plays but for the most part was invisible and not in a good way.

It will take him at least 5-7 games before we see anything of real value. Although he did seem to play better/more angry after he scored his own goal against Varly.
 
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chrisni said:
didn't get to see the game.

How did o'reilly play?
Would he be a steal for fantasy or just leave him for a while?
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nihiliste said:
badly, he will need some time to get into game shape.
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chet1926 said:
i wouldn't go as far to say badly, but very average and out of game shape. He had a couple moments where he made some decent plays but for the most part was invisible and not in a good way.

It will take him at least 5-7 games before we see anything of real value. Although he did seem to play better/more angry after he scored his own goal against varly.
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grackle party said:
he was also poor on faceoffs for the most part.
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no. Player pos g a p +/- pim s hits bks gva tka fo% toi
3 r. O'byrne d 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 5 0 0 - 21:11
4 g. Zanon d 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 2 0 0 - 17:11
5 s. O'brien d 0 1 1 1 4 1 2 1 0 0 - 15:13
7 j. Mitchell c 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0% 16:20
8 j. Hejda d 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 6 0 0 - 22:12
9 m. Duchene c 0 0 0 1 2 2 1 3 0 0 63% 21:42
11 j. Mcginn l 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 - 18:33
12 c. Kobasew r 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0% 9:32
15 p. Parenteau r 1 0 1 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 - 17:03
22 m. Hunwick d 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 - 22:06
23 m. Hejduk r 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 - 12:57
26 p. Stastny c 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 62% 19:44
41 t. Barrie d 0 1 1 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 - 21:07
54 d. Jones r 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 1 0 1 - 16:23
55 c. Mcleod l 0 0 0 0 5 0 2 0 0 0 0% 9:35
58 p. Bordeleau l 0 0 0 0 7 0 2 0 0 0 - 3:02
90 r. O'reilly c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 39% 15:52
92 g. Landeskog l 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0% 18:51
 

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avalanchuck said:
no. Player pos g a p +/- pim s hits bks gva tka fo% toi
3 r. O'byrne d 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 5 0 0 - 21:11
4 g. Zanon d 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 2 0 0 - 17:11
5 s. O'brien d 0 1 1 1 4 1 2 1 0 0 - 15:13
7 j. Mitchell c 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0% 16:20
8 j. Hejda d 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 6 0 0 - 22:12
9 m. Duchene c 0 0 0 1 2 2 1 3 0 0 63% 21:42
11 j. Mcginn l 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 - 18:33
12 c. Kobasew r 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0% 9:32
15 p. Parenteau r 1 0 1 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 - 17:03
22 m. Hunwick d 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 - 22:06
23 m. Hejduk r 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 - 12:57
26 p. Stastny c 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 62% 19:44
41 t. Barrie d 0 1 1 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 - 21:07
54 d. Jones r 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 1 0 1 - 16:23
55 c. Mcleod l 0 0 0 0 5 0 2 0 0 0 0% 9:35
58 p. Bordeleau l 0 0 0 0 7 0 2 0 0 0 - 3:02
90 r. O'reilly c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 39% 15:52
92 g. Landeskog l 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0% 18:51
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^ Incredible faceoff percentages for Stastny and Duchene, though. Good to see.
 
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