TruePowerSlave
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What has Annunen done to earn a chance this year? He's been bad in Finland. I don't see any reason he'd start in the playoffs outside of everyone getting hurt.I don't know, Dubnyk and JJ have looked quite poor. If something happens to Grubauer (knock on wood it doesn't happen) in the playoffs and one of them gets an opportunity and craps the bed, they could make a change. I don't think their leash is very long.
If Justus plays well for the Eagles, I could see the Avs trying him before Werner in that scenario, because as you allude to they don't seem to have much faith in Werner.
Maybe but other teams have been able to produce goalies higher than the 3rd round.
I highly doubt they'd throw an unproven prospect goalie into the playoffs as a contender when they have Dubnyk and Johansson available.
What has Annunen done to earn a chance this year? He's been bad in Finland. I don't see any reason he'd start in the playoffs outside of everyone getting hurt.
Miska has in a limited sample size shown he's not too hot in the NHL. Annunen in a limited sample size has shown he's not too hot in the Finnish league.
Not sure how you can even think of playing him. The Leafs zamboni driver is a better bet.
One of those guys has shown he's not an NHL goaltender and it's not Annunen.
Of the 5 options I mentioned the Leafs zamboni driver is your guy. Annunen has shown he's not a finnish elite league goaltender so he's below my boy Miska.
Should have traded for Anisimov....Miska fails, if you need a goalie at least try something else
Miska fails, if you need a goalie at least try something else
Probably better than Miska. Miska blows.Should have traded for Anisimov....
And then he had an .884 this season. I just don’t see a way they put Annunen in at all this season unless somehow every other goalie gets hurt. It just seems really unlikely to put a 21 year old in playoffs games when he’s never played a game in NA before.Maybe you didn't see the point I added about Annunen, but he had a 1.77 GAA and .929% in 23 games and lead Karpat to 1st in the entire Finish league last year. That's a pretty great season.
And then he had an .884 this season. I just don’t see a way they put Annunen in at all this season unless somehow every other goalie gets hurt. It just seems really unlikely to put a 21 year old in playoffs games when he’s never played a game in NA before.
I mean I don’t think it really matters. Once Gru goes down it’s over regardless. Literally everyone of our goalies is useless and I think the chance of Annunen coming in and making a positive impact are just as high as JJ or Miska being effective in net.I don't know, maybe I'd give JJ one game, but trying Miska, JJ, or Werner just seems like waiving the white flag and accepting defeat to me.
It's like being too scared to pull the goaltender at the end of the game, because you're scared of making the score ugly. You have to take the chance, and personally I don't see how it makes sense to take a chance on guys that you've given a chance to already, and they've failed.
Though technically I guess they haven't given Werner much of a chance. Like has been mentioned though, the Avs just don't seem interested.
I mean I don’t think it really matters. Once Gru goes down it’s over regardless. Literally everyone of our goalies is useless and I think the chance of Annunen coming in and making a positive impact are just as high as JJ or Miska being effective in net.
The main bone I would have to pick with this is you do not want to destroy Annunen's confidence by throwing him into a high pressure playoffs situation when he's not ready. The Avs have hopes for this kid, unlike JoJo or Dubnyk there *is* something to lose by playing Annunen and having him take a fall.That's my exact point. We pretty much know Miska, JJ, and Werner won't win us a round in the playoffs, and might not even win us a game.
The only guy who might is Dubnyk, and he's played pretty bad the last couple seasons, and hasn't played any better after being traded to the Avs. He looks very disinterested to me and is moving slow as molasses in net.
At least with Dubnyk he has some history of success. Miska, JJ, and Werner don't have a good history to make up for their poor play, and give you hope they could turn it around.
The main bone I would have to pick with this is you do not want to destroy Annunen's confidence by throwing him into a high pressure playoffs situation when he's not ready. The Avs have hopes for this kid, unlike JoJo or Dubnyk there *is* something to lose by playing Annunen and having him take a fall.
Frankly, it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference who we play if it's not Grubauer. If he goes down, we're hosed no matter what, the season will be over shortly after that. Shattering Annunen's confidence just so you can lose anyway is really shortsighted.
I've found during this pandemic that hockey is so far removed from my brain in terms of importance, that I'm lucky if I remember who's playing for them this season versus last season.
Like I know someone used to wear #22 recently for the Avs, but I don't remember who it is.
Again though, the second point is still there: with or without Annunen, the Avs lose without Grubauer. It's not worth gambling Annunen's future when you know full well YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE NO MATTER WHAT. Why gamble your kid's college fund on impossible odds? You won't win a single game in the West with Annunen in net, this division is shaping up to have a brutal first two rounds for us, and if Grubauer goes down, the game is over. Insert coin to continue next season.That's a fair point, and the only reason I would have to not play Annunen in the situation I mentioned.
In the end though, winning the Cup is the only thing that matters. If they need to win 2-3 more games to advance to the next round when Grubauer might be healthy again, and one or both of JJ and Dubnyk have already been given a chance and failed again, I think I'd risk hurting Annunen's confidence.
He didn't have a great season this year anyway, so if he didn't play well in the playoffs this year, that would just be an extension of his season, and he could reset mentally next year. Also helps that all the other goalies would have played poorly too, not just him.
Again though, the second point is still there: with or without Annunen, the Avs lose without Grubauer. It's not worth gambling Annunen's future when you know full well YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE NO MATTER WHAT. Why gamble your kid's college fund on impossible odds? You won't win a single game in the West with Annunen in net, this division is shaping up to have a brutal first two rounds for us, and if Grubauer goes down, the game is over. Insert coin to continue next season.
I just have way less faith in Annunen than you do. He isn't ready yet, plain and simple, and he wouldn't help the Avs win. Maybe someday, he will be, but not this year. Putting Annunen in would be a disaster for both the Avs and the kid. Go ahead and ruin JoJo's mojo if you want, because he doesn't have an NHL future anyway, but don't risk hurting your best goalie prospect in years when you know he isn't ready yet.Yeah I don't agree with that though.
I think this team is good enough to win without a high end goalie, and like I said, they could hypothetical only need to win a few games to advance to the next round and get Grubauer back.
And we don't know if they can win with Annunen or not. That's why he's unproven in the NHL. The only thing JJ and Miska have proven is that the Avs can't win with THEM in net.
You have one option that has proven the Avs shouldn't expect to win with them in the playoffs. And another option that hasn't been given a chance to prove himself. It just doesn't make sense to me logically to go with the option that has proven not to work. Especially if you're resigned to losing anyway.