Rumor: Avs Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents 18-19 part XXXV| “We still need a 2nd Line, Joe!” Edition

[lonelybadger]

This offseason so far makes 0 sense. Get rid of the only player that had any sort of resemblance as an NHL 2C for a bottom pairing left D when you have Girard, Cole, Barbs, Zadorov, Graves, Byram already.

Even if one of Coles hips was actually Sam Girard still makes 0 sense.

 

[5280]

Colorado is the furthest thing from a prime offer sheet candidate. Even if offer sheets happened, which they don't, there is plenty of teams that it makes more sense for to do it.

I know most of those posters are joking, but it doesn’t really fit Joe’s MO either.

 

[CharlesPuck]

Mikko gonna get offer sheeted now

 

[chet1926]

As of right now, there is no indication of significant moves.

Simply resigning our RFAs will cover the cap floor.

Which would also play into what I said yesterday, which is Kroenke is cheap. If they just re-sign their guys and call it good and operate near the cap floor, it is what it is, and is a good indicator that this franchise is going nowhere fast.

We'll see how much ownership values winning by what they do over the next week or so. They either have some moves lined up to make a run, or they are content to keep the bottom line low and make more money.

 

[Muffin]

Soderberg trade actually made me more confident we might actually land Panarin, why else would you shred salary like that unless you're landing a big UFA?

 

[EdAVSfan]

Soderberg trade actually made me more confident we might actually land Panarin, why else would you shred salary like that unless you're landing a big UFA?

Cut costs and make more money.

 

[Muffin]

Which would also play into what I said yesterday, which is Kroenke is cheap. If they just re-sign their guys and call it good and operate near the cap floor, it is what it is, and is a good indicator that this franchise is going nowhere fast.

We'll see how much ownership values winning by what they do over the next week or so. They either have some moves lined up to make a run, or they are content to keep the bottom line low and make more money.

We were a cap team just a couple years ago with Roy. Wouldn't making a playoff run generate more profit than saving a few million on players?

 

[EdAVSfan]

We were a cap team just a couple years ago with Roy. Wouldn't making a playoff run generate more profit than saving a few million on players?

Yes, but spending money and not making the playoffs is also a double negative to the owner.

 

[Avsboy]

Mikko gonna get offer sheeted now

This is more likely than Aho or Point

 

[pockets]

So is Soderberg being traded the start of the sky falling around here or something?

 

[Echo Roku]

So is Soderberg being traded the start of the sky falling around here or something?

Yeah, who’d have thought that a Soderberg trade would be the thing to set people off the deep end?

 

[chet1926]

We were a cap team just a couple years ago with Roy. Wouldn't making a playoff run generate more profit than saving a few million on players?

You'd think, but for some reason we seem very content to just keep cost down instead.

 

[BrickNHL]

Yeah, who’d have thought that a Soderberg trade would be the thing to set people off the deep end?

Carl is my 2nd favourite forward

 

[Muffin]

You'd think, but for some reason we seem very content to just keep cost down instead.

Hopefully just saving the cap space to re-sign our guys and chase a big UFA. Sakic is not Dorion, I don't think he'd be the GM of the team if ownership isn't committed to winning, he's not exactly hurting for money.

 

[Fearnot]

Compher is going to flourish with this team you guys are building, got every team in the league watching how you guys are trending. Tampa of the West is going to be a nightmare. Panarin is going to be the key, bet he signs here.

 

[chet1926]

So is Soderberg being traded the start of the sky falling around here or something?

It's not the trade itself that is frustrating. It's what Sakic said after that is making fans around here panic. Seems like we will be heading into next season with basically the same roster, but now worse because we just traded out a guy who scored 50ish points and got nothing in return.

So unless something changes over the next week, it's very concerning.

 

[chet1926]

Hopefully just saving the cap space to re-sign our guys and chase a big UFA. Sakic is not Dorion, I don't think he'd be the GM of the team if ownership isn't committed to winning, he's not exactly hurting for money.

I hope the same thing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Our philosophy seems to be squarely hope the young guys get better every year, and hope MacK continues to carry us.

 

[Foppberg]

Mikko gonna get offer sheeted now

That would require him signing. Unless he feels like f***ing over his team I highly doubt it.

 

[Avsboy]

It's not the trade itself that is frustrating. It's what Sakic said after that is making fans around here panic. Seems like we will be heading into next season with basically the same roster, but now worse because we just traded out a guy who scored 50ish points and got nothing in return.

So unless something changes over the next week, it's very concerning.

He already said they'll be more active in the offseason. The two things are mutually exclusive: the depth players might be expected to play a more prominent role (even on the PK) while still signing 1,2,3 FAs. And Sakic had to hedge his bets/not show his hand/etc...

 

[flyfysher]

It's not the trade itself that is frustrating. It's what Sakic said after that is making fans around here panic. Seems like we will be heading into next season with basically the same roster, but now worse because we just traded out a guy who scored 50ish points and got nothing in return.

So unless something changes over the next week, it's very concerning.

I'm waiting for another week before I even entertain flipping out. It's obvious moves are being made. I more interested in how the moves tell us what kind of team Sakic is interested in building both to contend now and down the road, manage the cap, deal with the upcoming entry draft, set the D and hopefully make judicious acquisition and use of vets if at all to fill in spots.

 

[UncleRisto]

So now because Dater tweets some shit, the Avs are a budget team cutting costs again?

 

[chet1926]

He already said they'll be more active in the offseason. The two things are mutually exclusive: the depth players might be expected to play a more prominent role (even on the PK) while still signing 1,2,3 FAs. And Sakic had to hedge his bets/not show his hand/etc...

We'll see. I'll believe it when it see it.

 

[Echo Roku]

Whether people like it or not, the plan was always going to bet on Jost and/or Compher stepping up, even if with assistance

People here act like the team has already given up on them

 

[UncleRisto]

Whether people like it or not, the plan was always going to bet on Jost and/or Compher stepping up, even if with assistance

People here act like the team has already given up on them

Why would they give up on perfectly good young third liners? Still need a second line.

 

[chet1926]

I'm waiting for another week before I even entertain flipping out. It's obvious moves are being made. I more interested in how the moves tell us what kind of team Sakic is interested in building both to contend now and down the road, manage the cap, deal with the upcoming entry draft, set the D and hopefully make judicious acquisition and use of vets if at all to fill in spots.

The move doesn't bother me. I'm not worried, it's their call on what they want to do to make the team better.

I'm hoping for some change, some nice adds but if we go into next year with the same basic team I can't change anything so no sense in getting worked up about it.