Rumor: Avs Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents 18-19 part XVI| Why No Trades!?
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God they better not be. Brassard has been horrid for the Pens.
I wish the Jets were looking to dump Perreault. I think eventually they'll have to for cap reasons but I'm guessing they won't until the offseason and they sure as hell won't want to trade him to a division rival.
I wish the Jets were looking to dump Perreault. I think eventually they'll have to for cap reasons but I'm guessing they won't until the offseason and they sure as hell won't want to trade him to a division rival.
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I think he'd do alright on the Avs.
Avs probably just doing their due diligence. If the Avs are scouting Brassard and are interested in Hayes then it sounds like they are looking for a middle 6 center. Rangers probably want futures, Pens would likely want roster player.
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Avs have multiple young high end core players not on their long term deals. Nates next contract will be sizeable but it will be many more players other than him.
If you're talking about offering him a 2mx2 contract in the offseason then maybe but otherwise he has been terrible. I don't see many teams being interested.
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I don't want anything to do with Brassard. He'd just contribute to the problem of the middle six being pushed around, the lack of aggression, and the lack of high end talent. Wouldn't give anything of any note from the roster for him.
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You want an expensive old player exiting his prime. I'm not sure now is the team for the Avs to be taking on bad contracts.
You kinda want to look at the core players that will be coming up over 3 year windows to do it properly, as year by year doesn't work well. With that said my guesses are:
Rants: 10.5
JT: 3.75
Kerf: 4.75
Zads: 3.75
Sven: 2.5
Kam: 1.25
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Alexander Kerfoot asking for 4.75M is more than enough justification to either trade him or let him walk. He's not that kind of player.
Those seem closer to worst case scenarios. Or if they all deserve those contracts the Avs are playing in the second round at least. Maybe the best case?
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Us scouting the Pens now 3 games in a row is actually very interesting, because we've already played them twice this season. So it makes little sense to be following them unless it's to get an extended look at specific players for a potential deal.
Kessel would be amazing. They'd likely want a Defender as part of the deal and I could certainly see Zadorov being the one they would want. Kerfoot would make sense for them as well. Pair him with Malkin or Crosby and that's a legit 60 point winger in Kerfoot.
Does Zadorov + Kerfoot + our 1st get us Kessel I wonder.
I could also see it being a much less interesting Brassard as the trade target. He could be a good buy low candidate for us as an experimental 2C. If he turns things around with us awesome, if not it should cost minimal assets to get him and then we let him walk this summer and explore free agency targeting a Center like Hayes instead or go big game hunting for a Stone/Panarin type.
Kessel would be amazing. They'd likely want a Defender as part of the deal and I could certainly see Zadorov being the one they would want. Kerfoot would make sense for them as well. Pair him with Malkin or Crosby and that's a legit 60 point winger in Kerfoot.
Does Zadorov + Kerfoot + our 1st get us Kessel I wonder.
I could also see it being a much less interesting Brassard as the trade target. He could be a good buy low candidate for us as an experimental 2C. If he turns things around with us awesome, if not it should cost minimal assets to get him and then we let him walk this summer and explore free agency targeting a Center like Hayes instead or go big game hunting for a Stone/Panarin type.
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I bet Torts disciple Sullivan is salivating at the thought of reuniting the Team USA Johnson and Johnson pairing. And getting rid of Phil in the process? His dream come true.
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I'm going to guess it's not Kessel because that doesn't seem like a Sakic move. He's 31 years old with a high cap hit and three more years still left on the deal. He'll also probably get along with Bednar as well as he does with Sullivan.
Brassard on the other hand could be more of what they're after. If we believe Friedman, the Avs apparently want a center. Things haven't gone well for him with the Pens but he was a very good player prior to that. You can never rule out the CBJ connection either with MacFarland being in the front office that drafted him. He's also 31 years old but there's no commitment past this season and he should be cheaper to acquire.
Brassard on the other hand could be more of what they're after. If we believe Friedman, the Avs apparently want a center. Things haven't gone well for him with the Pens but he was a very good player prior to that. You can never rule out the CBJ connection either with MacFarland being in the front office that drafted him. He's also 31 years old but there's no commitment past this season and he should be cheaper to acquire.
Imo that is the middle ground, any of them sans maybe Kam could easily get more than that.
If he gets around 50 points in back to back years then over 4m is the going rate pretty easily and likely would be close to 5. You could make the term short but the Avs don't have the depth scoring atm to let him walk. He is the best offensive player on the roster outside of the top line
Pens can want a lot of things but they are an old team with very little that would interest the Avs. I can't think of a single player on their roster that would be enticing for Colorado in any meaningful way.
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I don't see the Pens trading Brassard for B level futures (e.g. pieces like Greer, a 2nd, etc.). And I don't see the Avs giving up high end futures for him (or anyone, for that matter. He's a 31 year old pending UFA who picked a good time to have just 9 points in 24 games). And I don't see the Avs moving any decent roster players for Brassard, because the whole point is to add to weak depth. Certainly nobody like Soderberg would ever be available for Brassard given how vital he is to the team and how much Bednar uses him (and how utterly counterproductive that'd be for the Avs, especially since Soderberg is having a far better season), but that is the sort of piece the Pens need for their third line. I just don't see it unless the Pens want to dump Brassard for a couple of B futures.
Its not really THAT interesting imo. At this point of the year you have scouts and you need them to be doing something. A lot of times its just a convince with the schedule kind of thing. Only time I think scouts are noteworthy is heavy trends around TDL or big names. People read too much into it.
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My guesses:
9.85-10.5M long-term deal for Mikko (hopefully 8 years but at least 6)
3.85-4.25M on a 5+ year deal for Zads
~3.45M on a 2-year bridge for Jimmothy
~2.25M on a 2-year bridge for Francouz (assuming Varly's groin gets him an NHL look this season)
~1.45M bridge for Kamenev (1 or 2 years)
1-year prove-it deal for Greer that can be almost entirely buried (1.05-1.25M)
Wilson, Ghetto, Kerfoot & Varlamov aren't brought back. Dunno about Nemo (or Gork), but I could see Barbie getting shipped out (alongside Nieto) with Nemo & Gork taking their spots as the extra blueliner & forward respectively.
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