TSN: Avs and Bruins have emerged as the frontrunners for Chris Kreider

[PatriceBergeronFan]

So price is:

1st, Kaut, Jost and a conditional pick if he re-signs

or

1st, Studnicka, Kuhlman and a conditional pick if he re-signs.

Who wins?

Bruins are not doing that.

 

[Michoulicious]

Bruins are not doing that.

Hard to do, of course. But I feel it is what it's going to take to outbid Colorado if they put Kaut on the table.

 

[Patagonia]

So price is:

1st, Kaut, Jost and a conditional pick if he re-signs

or

1st, Studnicka, Kuhlman and a conditional pick if he re-signs.

Who wins?

I believe AVs is easily the better proposal, extending is more likely BOS.

 

[Michoulicious]

I believe AVs is easily the better proposal, extending is more likely BOS.

I know he's from Massachusetts, but with what money would they extend him? Beside Krug/Halak, it's not like there is much money coming off the books with DeBrusk, Bjork, Chara? all needing new deals. They could trade someone, but who?

 

[txpd]

Apparantly BobbyMac is saying the Capitals are in on this.

 

[Patagonia]

I know he's from Massachusetts, but with what money would they extend him? Beside Krug/Halak, it's not like there is much money coming off the books with DeBrusk, Bjork, Chara? all needing new deals. They could trade someone, but who?

Backes. Send his contract to the AVs and include a 1st + prospect.

 

[Michoulicious]

Apparantly BobbyMac is saying the Capitals are in on this.

Kreider will cost... a lot.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I believe AVs is easily the better proposal, extending is more likely BOS.

Jost isn’t much of a consequential piece. Studnicka makes the Boston trade better.

 

[Patagonia]

Jost isn’t much of a consequential piece. Studnicka makes the Boston trade better.

Studnicka is the best prospect, but the sum of the AVs proposal is better overall.

 

[txpd]

Kreider will cost... a lot.

ok. that effects the reliability of McKenzie how?

 

[Shootertooter]

I know he's from Massachusetts, but with what money would they extend him? Beside Krug/Halak, it's not like there is much money coming off the books with DeBrusk, Bjork, Chara? all needing new deals. They could trade someone, but who?

Heinen and Miller would have to go to NY for cap reasons.

 

[Shootertooter]

Apparantly BobbyMac is saying the Capitals are in on this.

I think this to be true as well.

 

[Shootertooter]

I don't know I might actually think it has to be 0 or something but my post was sarcastic I don't know if u got it I live in Quebec where mostly there are Habs fans and trust me they remember.

They remember Emelin slashing and tripping Kreider who then collided with Price?

 

[Shootertooter]

Hard to give up Studnicka, but I don't see Beecher/Frederick/etc moving the needle. We'll see!

If Kaut is available, he'd make the Colorado offer more enticing than Boston's without Studnicka.

I also think odds of Colorado extending Kreider higher than Boston doing the same, making Colorado's case even more attractive for NY (unlocking a conditional pick).

If anyone is putting real value in the 1st, from an aspect that it is actually an important piece in the trade, Colorado's will be a better pick. Kaut, Jost and a 1st would be tremendous.

 

[Spilot23]

They remember Emelin slashing and tripping Kreider who then collided with Price?

The bolded is forgotten

 

[kdog82]

I think the Bruins will trade the 1st if the Rangers or whoever are willing to take Backes.

 

[BB88]

I think the Bruins will trade the 1st if the Rangers or whoever are willing to take Backes.

They better be ready to trade it even without

 

[Shootertooter]

I think the Bruins will trade the 1st if the Rangers or whoever are willing to take Backes.

We saw TOR move Marleau for a 1st..........expect Backes to be the same but then you aren;t likely getting CK unless the package is all prospects/NHL ready players. NYR can't take Backes in return because they have their own cap issues and players to re sign.

 

[eco's bones]

Rangers should not take cap dumps back that extend beyond the end of this season.

 

[Matt4776]

Rangers should not take cap dumps back that extend beyond the end of this season.

Agreed. I'm not taking Backes back unless Studnicka is part of the deal.

EDIT: For clarity- I'm talking about a deal that includes Kreider+taking Backes back. Obviously shedding Backes alone isn't worth Studnicka.

 

[kdog82]

We saw TOR move Marleau for a 1st..........expect Backes to be the same but then you aren;t likely getting CK unless the package is all prospects/NHL ready players. NYR can't take Backes in return because they have their own cap issues and players to re sign.

Different circumstance and a far dumber GM.

 

[eco's bones]

Agreed. I'm not taking Backes back unless Studnicka is part of the deal.

EDIT: For clarity- I'm talking about a deal that includes Kreider+taking Backes back. Obviously shedding Backes alone isn't worth Studnicka.

We're already looking at $7.5 mil of dead cap space next year and that's even before considering if there will be buyouts and/or retained cap on the likes of Lundqvist, Staal or Smith. We also have RFA's like Georgiev, Lemieux but most importantly DeAngelo. Taking on Backes would seriously crimp our ability to manage our own cap next year--might leave to moves to get cap compliant that we really don't want to make. Studnicka is an excellent young prospect but he's not worth taking on Backes in our current situation. Backes is a problem of the Bruins own making.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Studnicka is the best prospect, but the sum of the AVs proposal is better overall.

Quality over quantity. We have plenty of quantity already.

 

[Favin]

So price is:

1st, Kaut, Jost and a conditional pick if he re-signs

or

1st, Studnicka, Kuhlman and a conditional pick if he re-signs.

Who wins?

I would think both are realistic and am guessing NYR would be happy take either. But if forced to pick between two, I am taking COL offer first. But its close.

(Also, all the Backes talk...the cost of dumping Backes at trade deadline will painful. Just wait until June...would probably only cost mid-round pick then).

 

[Shootertooter]

Different circumstance and a far dumber GM.

Nothing to do with the GM.
That was the price to move a 6M cap hit.
It likely is the starting point to move Backes unless a good prospect is in play.