Confirmed with Link: Avs acquire Andre Burakovsky for a 2nd rd pick, 3rd rd pick, and Scott Kosmachuk

[The Abusement Park]

Those Chicago guys seem like they've been around forever.

For real. It’s nuts.

 

[Balthazar]

Even outside of the stats (which are better anyway) Shaw brings more to his team than the 6'3 softie. He's got a lot of bite in his game.

Shaw > Burakovsky (as of right now, at least).

 

[Avsboy]

Even outside of the stats (which are better) Shaw brings more to his team than the 6'3 softie. He's got a lot of bite in his game.

Shaw > Burakovsky (as of right now, at least).

Shaw was undoubtedly bought high. Burky was bought low, his last season was his worst.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Shaw was undoubtedly bought high. Burky was bought low, his last season was his worst.

Meh I mean Shaw and Bura score at similar clips.

 

[Foppberg]

Players are weird. Sometimes you have a Grigs, other times a William Karlsson. Shaw might bring more to the table right now but I like the gamble of Burakovsky better. Don't love what we gave up but it is what it is. We'll see if the gamble pays off.

 

[Avsboy]

Meh I mean Shaw and Bura score at similar clips.

Burky is younger, faster, bigger, and has more potential. I'd give the edge slightly to the Avs when comparing these trades, but both the trades are still bad.

On Burky I will say, his fear of physical contact (a poster said he goes to great lengths to avoid contact) is really concerning. Shaw has the big edge there.

 

[AvsRobin]

Players are weird. Sometimes you have a Grigs, other times a William Karlsson. Shaw might bring more to the table right now but I like the gamble of Burakovsky better. Don't love what we gave up but it is what it is. We'll see if the gamble pays off.

I wished Grigs stayed another season, no one should be judged on that 16/17 year. We were stuck with Soda cause of his contract and he turned it around.

Grigorenko has been very good in the KHL, I think he should have a job in this league.

 

[Foppberg]

I wished Grigs stayed another season, no one should be judged on that 16/17 year. We were stuck with Soda cause of his contract and he turned it around.

Grigorenko has been very good in the KHL, I think he should have a job in this league.

Yeah.. yeah no. I liked Grigs the person but he's not built for the NHL. His style is too ... sleepy.

 

[Revelation]

For real. It’s nuts.

Shaw was in the NHL his D+1 season as a 5th rounder. He was an overager but still

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Yeah.. yeah no. I liked Grigs the person but he's not built for the NHL. His style is too ... sleepy.

Greg was definitely not built for the NHL. He had a lot of skills, but he was too passive.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Greg was definitely not built for the NHL. He had a lot of skills, but he was too passive.

I wish I could just take Ghetto's brain, and put it in Greg's body. You'd have Malkin lol.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I wish I could just take Ghetto's brain, and put it in Greg's body. You'd have Malkin lol.

Mark Olver + Greg = All-Time Great

 

[CobraAcesS]

Mark Olver + Greg = All-Time Great

Borq + Greg = GOAT

 

[The Abusement Park]

Borq + Greg = GOAT

Raymond Bourque+Greg=GOAT.

 

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Also, don't fall into the trap of comparing Soderberg and Burky. They play completely different roles. Compare Burky to Wilson or even Ghetto or Bork.

Burakovsky's hockey IQ and potential is far superior to Wilson, Ghetto and Bork, almost uncomparable. Hopefully his fellow Swede Landeskog teaches him some attitude, he need to work harder and play a more physical game, improving his defensive game. I would never compare Burakovsky with Soderberg though, different type of players. Burakovsky is more a sniper kind of player when on his game/potential.

We need strong coaching here, a tough captain, a good sport psychologist and everything will be fine. ;-)

 

[cgf]

I wished Grigs stayed another season, no one should be judged on that 16/17 year. We were stuck with Soda cause of his contract and he turned it around.

Grigorenko has been very good in the KHL, I think he should have a job in this league.

Have you watched him in the K? Greg still has all of the same faults that plagued him on the smaller ice, but playing for a powerhouse on the bigger ice just lets him get around those flaws.

 

[cgf]

Burakovsky's hockey IQ and potential is far superior to Wilson, Ghetto and Bork, almost uncomparable. Hopefully his fellow Swede Landeskog teaches him some attitude, he need to work harder and play a more physical game, improving his defensive game. I would never compare Burakovsky with Soderberg though, different type of players. Burakovsky is more a sniper kind of player when on his game/potential.

We need strong coaching here, a tough captain, a good sport psychologist and everything will be fine. ;-)

Yeah, Bura has almost as much potential as Terri did.

 

[AvsRobin]

Have you watched him in the K? Greg still has all of the same faults that plagued him on the smaller ice, but playing for a powerhouse on the bigger ice just lets him get around those flaws.

It's easier for anyone to play in Europe. I still think he should have a job in the NHL. And he probably could if he wanted to.

 

[Pokecheque]

It's easier for anyone to play in Europe. I still think he should have a job in the NHL. And he probably could if he wanted to.

Don't understand why we're still talking about this guy. He simply didn't want it enough. That's why he's in Europe half-assing his way to decent tax-free paychecks.

And it isn't just that season of failure, he was a thoroughly mediocre player throughout his NHL career. But he absolutely should be judged to some extent, he was given the role, ice time, and linemates to at least make people take notice and he was a big, slow, perimeter player who did nothing of consequence on the ice. All the talent and hockey IQ in the world won't help you if that's what you bring to the table.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Burakovsky's hockey IQ and potential is far superior to Wilson, Ghetto and Bork, almost uncomparable. Hopefully his fellow Swede Landeskog teaches him some attitude, he need to work harder and play a more physical game, improving his defensive game. I would never compare Burakovsky with Soderberg though, different type of players. Burakovsky is more a sniper kind of player when on his game/potential.

We need strong coaching here, a tough captain, a good sport psychologist and everything will be fine. ;-)

Washington had strong coaching and Ovechkin as captain.

Didn't get the full potential out of Burav.

 

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Washington had strong coaching and Ovechkin as captain.

Didn't get the full potential out of Burav.

We will see, he is more mature, more experienced and a new environment.

I have a new player following in Colorado after Nemeth I guess, another underrated player.

I do feel more insecure about Burakovsky comparing to what I felt for Nemeth. In an opposite way though, Burakovsky is talented for sure, question mark for work ethic, defensive and physical play. Nemeth is a physical unafraid workhorse but not very technical in his game.

 

[tucker3434]

So did Burakovsky just get busted down to the 3rd line?

 

[Veritas0Aequitas]

So did Burakovsky just get busted down to the 3rd line?

Absolutely not. He will be given every opportunity to play in the top 6 with Kadri or MacK.

 

[Echo Roku]

So did Burakovsky just get busted down to the 3rd line?

Top 6 will be some combination of Rantanen, MacK, Landy, Kadri, Jost, and Burakovsky, I imagine.

Compher feels like he's set up to be a good 3C with Donskoi and Wilson

With Bellamare, Nieto, and Calvert being the defensive line.

Sort of checks all the boxes

 

[Tommy Shelby]

My not so bold prediction: he's going to be our new Yak/Greg/Colborne. Bednar has no time for guys like that.

He'll be a healthy scratch at some point this year. Might even see AJ Greer get more love from Bedsy.