Auto-Mock Draft

Discussion in 'Mock Drafts' started by Cayouche5, Mar 21, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. Cayouche5

    Cayouche5 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2003
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Home Page:
    First I have to say this is not my Idea it's emile one but we don't know where he is and hehad a great idea so to not kill this i decided to continue it but if he return I will give him all the list i receive and let him run the mock draft

    I'm looking for 29 people who have enough knowledge of the draft pool to be able to submit an ordered list of 90-120 (or more) players. I will take the lists, and drafting instructions, and make a 3-4 round mock on this board.

    The fun here is in the slight unpredictability and in not having to wait a month for people to make their picks. If people can make a list in a week or so, then the draft can commence immediately. What's more, if the same people want to, we can continue to tinker with and expand the lists and do longer follow-up drafts every month, until maybe doing a full 9-round mock right before the draft. It takes a little effort and some guesswork, but I made a 150 player list in about an hour. The CSB rankings have over 400 players alone, so its not too bad.

    So, first come first serve to choose a team

    Instructions can be simple (for example)
    *No more than 3 wings in the draft
    *At least 3 European players
    *A defenseman must be taken by round 3

    Or more complex (for example)
    *One or two defenseman in the first three rounds, and between two and four for the total draft
    *One and only one goaltender to be taken by round five, a second may only be taken in rounds 8 or 9 if they are on a different continent than the one already taken.
    (you can specify things like power forwards and skill defensemen, and I will judge them based on their size only as compared to the average. - definitions like 'sniper' can't be used because I can't guarantee that I know the skills of every player in the draft)

    Etc. - You can build your instructions into the player rankings (ie Pittsburgh might put Marek Schwarz in the third round, because thats how far he'd have to fall before they'd take him. Or they can submit instructions to have the same effect). Obviously the instructions are geared to prevent teams from drafting 3 goalies, or 7 defenseman. I will follow the lists and instructions *exactly*, so make them sensible or look silly.

    There are no trades (obviously), and the draft order will be based on the standings whenever I do the draft. Traded picks will be distributed as per the excellent website which can be linked from the main NHL discussion section.

    I probably made the initial post overly complicated. If there is no instructions, I will select the best player available from your list. However, if you have too many instructions, you might miss a good player who is sliding. I guess it mirrors the real draft somewhat in the different strategies that teams use (draft for need, or just draft talent). I imagine that it might take a try or two for everyone to get their drafting strategies down.

    Another rule - all players listed as eligible by CSB are eligible, regardless of opt-in status, until they are known to not have opted in. So Thelen, O'Neill, Pineault etc are fair game for now.
    One team per person, sign up now.

    TEAMS
    Anaheim -
    Atlanta - VernonForrest
    Boston - Swervedriver
    Buffalo - eSabre
    Calgary - Avalanche 26
    Carolina - emile
    Chicago - HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN
    Colorado - TopGun
    Columbus - cvandenburg
    Dallas -
    Detroit - Rather Gingerly 1*
    Edmonton - Seachd
    Florida - Jaded-Fan
    Los Angeles - emile
    Minnesota - Cayouche5*
    Montreal - Cayouche5
    Nashville - Brock*
    New Jersey Devils - JasonMacIsaac
    New York Islanders - JNRhockeyGURU
    New York Rangers - Rather Gingerly 1
    Ottawa - PrussianBlue*
    Philadelphia - JasonMacIsaac
    Phoenix - Dan
    Pittsburgh - Jaded-Fan
    Saint Louis - Prussian Blue
    San Jose - X-Sharkie
    Tampa Bay - TopGun12
    Toronto - Brock
    Vancouver - Fedz
    Washington - Balej

    *2nd team so they are available to someone who don't have any team yet.
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2004
  2. Brock

    Brock Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    10,930
    Likes Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    199
    Location:
    The GTA
    Home Page:
    I'll take the Leafs.
     
  3. Balej

    Balej Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2004
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'll take the Caps.
     
  4. eSabre

    eSabre Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2002
    Messages:
    6,460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Home Page:
    I'll take Buffalo
     
  5. Chainshot

    Chainshot Give 'em Enough Rope

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    79,595
    Likes Received:
    7,197
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Occupation:
    Herding Cats
    Location:
    Costa Rica
    Awards:
    Damn! Late to the dance again. :D
     
  6. Swervedriver

    Swervedriver Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2003
    Messages:
    555
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    On The Last Train To Satansville
    Home Page:
    I've got Boston
     
  7. X-SHARKIE

    X-SHARKIE Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,362
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Janesville Wisconsin
    Home Page:
    May I have San Jose..... thank you.
     
  8. Flamesfan 26

    Flamesfan 26 Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2003
    Messages:
    1,237
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    146
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Train Operator
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    I want Calgary
     
  9. Jshibley

    Jshibley Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    662
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    rockstar
    Location:
    LaVerne CA
    Home Page:
    Anahiem please.
     
  10. X-SHARKIE

    X-SHARKIE Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,362
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Janesville Wisconsin
    Home Page:
    So do I have San Jose?

    All it says is San Jose-San Jose?
     
  11. HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN

    HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2002
    Messages:
    459
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    teacher
    Location:
    The 49th parallel
    Home Page:
    Hawks please

    if they are not already taken. Thanks
     
  12. emile

    emile Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    dead in a ditch
    Home Page:
    Thanks to Cayouche5 for making this work. I gave up a little to soon I guess. Nice to see a lot of the well-known draft fans interested.

    Give me Carolina - that puts us at 15 teams. Maybe everyone should grab a second team, so we can do an initial draft - and then give out people's secondary teams as new people become interested in joining in :dunno: .

    Or maybe just wait a little longer, and see if more people sign up.

    Also add cvandenburg as Columbus, and did Duff88 ever sign up for a team?
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2004
  13. Cayouche5

    Cayouche5 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2003
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Home Page:
    I'll add cvandenburg and No Duff did not sign up, too bad... Also Colorado is available
     
  14. Prussian_Blue

    Prussian_Blue Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2003
    Messages:
    7,737
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Cayouche5,

    I'm too lazy to mess with e-mail... :rolly: ...so I'll reply here. I'm definitely in as mock GM for the Blues, and if we end up taking a second team, I'll take the Coyotes.

    Thanks,

    PrussianBlue
     
  15. Cayouche5

    Cayouche5 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2003
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Home Page:
    Good :yo:
    So make your list for the blues and that to me than me and emile we'll see if 1 or 2 teams will be O.k.
     
  16. emile

    emile Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    dead in a ditch
    Home Page:
    It seems like interest has peaked again for the time being. If it's okay with Cayouche5, I think we should all take a second team so we can try this out. Hopefully, once it gets going more people will come in to take over the second teams.

    Let's say have lists to Cayouche5 or me by April 1, then I'll post the mock right after the draft lottery. For your second team, you don't need a brand new list, just make separate drafting instructions. Also, let's try for 100 player lists - that should ensure a 4-round mock.

    If we can pull this off, we can look to do another one in May and a final one in June that could hopefully be 9 rounds.
     
  17. Dan

    Dan Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,642
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    With PrussianBlue and Cayouche5's permission, I'll take on the Coyotes. That's if you have not already set it in stone. Sorry, just seeing this.
     
  18. TopGun12

    TopGun12 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2003
    Messages:
    179
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'll take the avalanche if that's okay.
     
  19. X-SHARKIE

    X-SHARKIE Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,362
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Janesville Wisconsin
    Home Page:
    SO I have to make a list of top 150 guys in the draft? OUCH..


    Or should I pick my top 5 picks per round?
     
  20. Cayouche5

    Cayouche5 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2003
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Home Page:
    It's Ok with me ... just ask Prussian Blue if he wants to change teams
     
  21. Cayouche5

    Cayouche5 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2003
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Home Page:
    Well at least TOP100 if i want to do 4 rounds
     
  22. X-SHARKIE

    X-SHARKIE Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2003
    Messages:
    9,362
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Janesville Wisconsin
    Home Page:
    No problem...whens the top 100 do?
     
  23. emile

    emile Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    dead in a ditch
    Home Page:
    Let's try for lists in by April 1, with the mock to be posted right after the lottery. This is going to be hard to keep together, harder than I had thought - but if we can get one done, I think it will get easier.

    I think Dan should have Phoenix. It will work better if everyone has just one team, so I think any new person should be able to take someone's second team. PrussianBlue, is there another team you would like?
     
  24. Brock

    Brock Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    10,930
    Likes Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    199
    Location:
    The GTA
    Home Page:
    If the feeling is we don't have enough interest currently, then I'll take on a second team, being Nashville.
     
  25. emile

    emile Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    dead in a ditch
    Home Page:
    To help with the lists, here are some links to stats of European players. I assume everyone knows about the CSB site and the various North American junior league sites.

    *Czech Republic* - go to hokej.cz. To see junior stats, click on "mladez" and then "statistiky" on the menu on the right (http://www.hokej.cz/index.php?lng=CZ&webid=246&akce=statistiky&ids=195). There is a pulldown menu that will say "reprezentace - 20 - 03/04" - pull that down and switch it ELJ A or ELJ B (the two top junior tiers). The default is all positions, you can pull down there to change to goalies, forwards, or defensemen. To see the stats of junior players in the Extraliga, or other adult leagues, click Extraliga, then Statistiky, then change the "Junior" pulldown on the right to say 'junior'. In all cases, 'Vyhledat' is the button to select.

    *Slovakia* - For junior stats, click on http://hokej.point.sk/liga_exj/stats.php. It has English, so it's easy to manage. Extraliga stats are at http://hokej.point.sk/extraliga/stats.php.

    *Finland* - go to http://www.finhockey.fi/tulospalvelu. Click the link to the league you want. The junior stats are under "A-Nuorten SM Liiga", and you can also click to the "Mestis" (second division), which has a few prospects playing in it as well. Regular season stats are under "Runkosarja" - you can look at each teams stats by clicking "Joukkueiden pistepörssit", and then the team you are interested in. To look at SM-Liiga stats, go to jatkoaika.com, and click SM-liiga, click the team you want under "joukkueet", and then click "tilastot" to look at team stats. "pistepörssi" is a scorers list.

    *Sweden* - http://stats.swehockey.se/ - mostly in English, so easy to manage, although Eliteprospects already has a pretty comprehensive guide. Click on Divisions, and choose J20 SuperElit for juniors and Elitserien or Allsvenskan for adult leagues.

    *Russia* - Man, if anyone knows a good Russian site with junior and senior stats, I would love to know about it.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"