Attendance

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  1. LDN

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    What are teams looking like for attendance this season? What are ways the OHL can make some changes to increase growth in the smaller markets or places where attendance is a problem?
     
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    Oshawa averages about 4300+ right now. This weekend we had over 5600 on Friday and 5200+ earlier this afternoon.
     
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    That is pretty solid... it says the cap is around 5500 so not bad considering that.
     
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    yeah the seating capacity is 5500 but SOLD OUT crowd, as seen in 2014/2015 is 6150. We usually get there for late season games versus the Petes, teddy bear toss nights, Timbits night or on occasion the long playoff run, but never in round 1
     
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    So playoffs/long playoff runs would be a full house.....Would you say the same for other teams?
     
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    Ice Dogs average 4 ,766 per game
     
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    Well, a team like Niagara will sell out every home playoff game they have, regardless of when it is, but many teams in the first round will actually see a drop in attendance. Generals in the first round more often than not will see less than 4000
     
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    I find it unreal that there are 11 teams below the 3000 mark....Ottawa being one of them and they are at the top of the standings...I thought they used to average around 8000?
     
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    Hmmmm that is odd....is it because fans see the increase in price or aren't sure yet if the team is for real?
     
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    I would say a mix of both. Plus, if you arent the home seed team you often get the horrible nights of Monday or Tuesday rather than closer to the weekend.
     
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    Attendance is something that is a mix of a lot of factors in this league.

    Here's the most common reasons for attendance swings from team to team, one the day of the week a team plays in to account for every team to some degree depending upon the team and the fanbase.

    From an Owen Sound standpoint a Sunday or Wednesday game sees a crowd around 2,800 and change where a Saturday has an attendance around 3,200. Making Saturday's the big fan draw in Owen Sound.

    The other factor that attributes to the change in attendance falls primarily on who each team plays on what given day, if a divisional opponent plays a divisional opponent attendance is usually higher do to the natural rivalry rather then a cross conference game.

    Beyond that it really on comes down to the talent of each teams individual players and standings that sells seats a good team will attract more higher attendance numbers then a team that seeds lower in the standings, and the price of the tickets does play a role in teams attendance.
     
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    Another significant reason for the drop in attendance for Oshawa in the first round is group ticket sales. Oshawa is very strong at group sales, and it is very difficult to organize groups in the short time frame that occurs between when a first round playoff game is scheduled and when it occurs.
     
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    Hamilton's is down, which is disappointing after the cup win we just had. A mixture of the Ti-Cats having a post season, current lacklustre performance on the ice and turning to 4:00 pm games when the Leafs play are what I would assume are the reasons for it. I mean, sure you accommodate die-hard hockey fans, but plenty of families don't want to uproot dinner for a hockey game.
     
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    I can tell you, in Hamilton this is true, but proximity, less divisional rivalry seems to be the factor. When London, Kitchener or Niagara come to town, attendance always sees a fairly major jump. There is also usually a slight bump when Oshawa or Guelph comes to town.
     
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    The main reason for a drop in attendance in the first round is pre-sales.

    Many teams give Season Tickets as part of corporate sponsorship packages. The corporate sponsors don't typically buy the playoff tickets. Same with some season ticket holders. Teams with big rinks sell a lot of group tickets at a discount but stop that practise for the playoffs.

    So if you have a 5000 seat rink with 1500 real STH and they all buy their playoff tickets, that still leaves 3500 tickets to sell basically every game day. That is a tough go for many teams. It is much easier to do it for a regular season with a schedule posted months in advance.
     
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    Many thanks for posting this, something for people to go through for sure. Windsor averages one of the highest #'s in the league. For me junior hockey is a great night out with some good hockey. We get OHL games with our cable package, some good hockey for sure.
     
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    First time I can remember 11 teams averaging below 3,000. That should change by seasons end.
     
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    Some STHs are bought through businesses and some only buy regular season game tickets. These seats are available in the playoffs. Kitchener can drop to around 5 thousand first round. Some fans around us got fed up with vanilla type boring regular season hockey and haven't bought play off tickets recently. Last year they had a great run but I can see it dropping quite a bit this year if they are lucky enough to get that far. Prices are getting up there.
     
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    While Hamilton is averaging 3692--much of that is inflated by a School Day game--they're in reality struggling around the low 3000s, which is worse when they're in an arena that is not suitable for the OHL due to being too big(17,400 capacity--far too much)--Bulldogs need a new arena ASAP.
     
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    considering the the Greater Hamilton Area shouldnt they be able to get at least 8000 on average?
     
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    Area is one thing, ease of getting to the arena is another. Traffic on the area highways can be troublesome even on the weekends
     
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    By that logic, Ottawa and Mississauga should be drawing or more as well. There are a several reasons why Hamilton isn't at the top of the OHL in attendance, and it could start a thread of its own, but we're currently sitting 8th this year and were 6th last year, and contrary to popular opinion, the school day games don't substantially skew the attendance across a 44 game season.

    If Hamilton didn't play out of a massive arena, by all accounts they are doing better then most OHL teams, but people just seem to love to harp on Hamilton.
     
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    If Hamilton had a proper OHL arena, which they never really had even back in the 70's, they wouldn't have had so much franchise turmoil and would likely have had one team through to now. No doubt in my mind Hamilton would support junior hockey and flourish, but a proper arena and some time to create some history and connection with the town is needed. Hockey fans in Hamilton have seen too many teams and 2 different leagues, due to the arena(s) in my opinion. Takes some time to build that bridge.
     
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