Atlanta part 4: Will the Thrashers be Gone With The Wind?

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  1. LadyStanley

    LadyStanley RIP Fugu

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  2. Finlandia WOAT

    Finlandia WOAT Bench Constance Garnett

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    Didn't the Fugu fish declare that no Atlanta thread be open 'till there was actual news?
     
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    We'll have to see what his writeup on TSN is. More speculation, or are there actual facts?
     
  4. Free Edler

    Free Edler Enjoy retirement, boys.

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    I'll bet it's mostly speculation. Wild speculation, at that.
     
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    Love the thread title :) Kudos
     
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    Perhaps related to Dreger's upcoming report, just posted on TSN:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=363831

    I've heard this old "If Phoenix stays, then Atlanta goes to Winnipeg" stuff before, but I believe this is the first time a legit source has published it.
     
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    Yaaawn. Same speculation, different story.

    Just for grins, given the thread title: I live in the city where Gone With The Wind was filmed.
     
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    Whatever happens, I'm sure true north and Winnipeg will only be used for leverage to find owners in the current market.
     
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    Time to break it down...
    There's a "chance" that TNSE and ASG could have negotations. Meaning there aren't any negotiations right now.
    Now we're down from "sources" to "a source", and we all know that TNSE is the only truly interested ownership group that has been given a green-light from the league. This is a real leap of faith. :rolleyes:

    The specuation here on HF has been better than this article.
     
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    Why would ASG wait to see where the Coyotes play next year to throw their name in the ring? If anything, they would be using the angle of "Hey, this Phoenix thing could go on a while. We're here and ready to sell now"

    I'm in agreement, this is speculation.
     
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    Probably.
     
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    The only reason I could think that Atlanta would be holding out until the Phoenix situation is resolved is that they may be able to get more money out of a sale if they're the only option for True North to get a team. Otherwise I don't see it...at the very least not as a viable option for next season. I could see a situation where True North would end up getting the team, but by that point they'd almost certainly be forced to play a lame duck season in Atlanta, where they'd stand to lose a metric **** ton of money.
     
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    If I was an ATL fan I wouldn't at all be worried. I've been fooled more than once by the NHL but no more. Winnipeg has been used twice as a motivator to keep the Coyotes in Glendale, and I believe, especially with Dreger (NHL schill) 'breaking' this news, that it's nothing more than a ruse to force these potential local guys into accelerating action.

    My friend said something very interesting (and true IMO) to me: He said "If the NHL leaves Atlanta they can never go back. Doesn't it make more sense to save ATL than PHO?"
     
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    When I first saw Dreger's tweet (quoted above), worried is what I was. It sounds so definitive, as if he'd have some real information.

    Then, I read the story. It's the same stuff we've been hearing for months. The overwhelming sense of relief is hard to describe.
     
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    I also believe it's Dreger playing on Winnipeg's passion for a team to gain more reads.
     
  16. dshoalts David Shoalts
    How long would it take Atlanta Thrashers to replace Coyotes in going to Winnipeg? See Irsay, Robert and Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts.
     
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    Gotta tell you aces, when all this is said and done (ATL and PHO) the real losers for me will be the media. I have lost all faith in these buffoons, especially a pathetic suckup like Dreger. He is only interested in doing 2 things here: Pandering to the NHL's wishes, and encouraging people to tune in to tonight's broadcast so he can give us zero new information.

    There is no such thing as sports journalism anymore. Just sensationalism and padding the bottom line.
     
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    If I'm a neutral and unbiased observer (which I'm not, and very few are in these threads), why should I believe Kincade's Balkan character any more than this speculation from Dreger?
     
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    As I recall it, the NFL gave Robert Irsay permission to move the Colts months before they vacated via 15 Mayflower trucks at 2am in March, 1984.

    I don't believe Atlanta Spirit Group has been given such approval.
     
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    not surprising given how greedy billionaires are.
     
  22. Darren Dreger
    @georgemalik @railfan514. More than a rumor, but thanks for the mention. It's a strong consideration confirmed by ATL, NHL and Wpg sources.
     
  23. Fugu

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    I guess Dreger wanted another thread, and LS came up with a cool title.

    We can let it stew for a bit, but at this point I feel like we should just merge all the Yotes, Thrashers and Winnipeg jets into one thread, then delete it when no one is looking. :sarcasm:


    And let's not start with the "fans in X think blah, blah, blah" stuff so that the other guys can respond. I'm tired of it.
     
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    The NFL did not give approval - they simply acknowledged that under the injunction from the Raiders case (making their relocation restrictions non enforceable) they had no control over the situation

    And boy Irsay was one d-bag of an owner in Baltimore. He had basically tried to move the Colts ever since he bought them - threatening to move to Phoenix, Indianapolis, LA, Jacksonville, and NY(???) before finally spurning Baltimore's last offer before moving to Indianapolis (two days before the Franchise may have been seized under eminent domain).

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-colts/bal-baltimore-colts-move-timeline,0,4891536.story
     
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    A good indicator of what is going on behind the scenes is Zach Bogosian. He's really homesick in Atlanta, and had his brother live with him in Atlanta last summer as they made him work out rehab and train there. His interview up at the Thrashers' official site right now has him sounding resigned - that he just wants to go home, spend the whole summer with his family, and be ready to play hockey next year...but he's not gung ho about The Thrashers at all. Whether or not Atlanta moves this summer, I fully expect Bogosian to be traded to a NE team.
     
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