Atlanta and KC arenas too busy for NHL hockey???

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  1. knorthern knight

    knorthern knight Registered User

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    Because this topic covers both Atlanta and KC (and potentially other cities), it should have its own thread. We're aware of how desparate Glendale is for the 45 nights a year that the Coyotes would (partly) fill Jobing.com arena, and all the parking revenue that would provide. :sarcasm:

    That may be the case out in the boonies of Glendale, but what about major cities. Do they want or need NHL teams in their arenas, or can their arenas make more money with something other than an NHL team those 45 evenings? This may be regarded as heresey on this board. But consider the possibility that maybe an arena in a large urban center can draw events to fill its winter schedule without relying on an NHL hockey team. I'm sure that icing up an entire hockey rink is NOT cheap, especially with rising energy prices. And in "the sunbelt", who do you think fans will pay $100 for a seat in the "nosebleed section"...
    • Justin Beiber or Lady Gaga or Tom Petty
    • or an NHL hockey game
    In this case, the NHL team would be less of an asset to the arena than a bunch of concerts and trade shows. And you never want to depend too much on any one customer. An NHL strike/lockout can cost an arena 40+ bookings in one season. A cancelled rock concert is one or two bookings. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Atlanta Hawks slowly edged out as well, but it would be "PR suicide" to admit it in Atlanta. Maybe just not restart the Hawks after the lockout?

    I stumbled over a couple of posts here that drove me to this idea. First, in the KC thread, in post http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=32973852&postcount=135

    The article at the Sprintcenter.com website says, amongst other things...

    A little help from "Mr. Google" turned up a similar article for the Phillips Arena at http://philipsarena.com/Content/view.aspx?CID=94f53b8b-860b-4721-852c-d90b195af67c and I quote...
    http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=32964862&postcount=461
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elli...eefe-has-coaching-chops-plus-30-thoughts.html
     
  2. No Fun Shogun

    No Fun Shogun 34-38-61-10-13-15

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    That's definitely an interesting concept, though on the flip side you could make the exact same claim about True North and the MTS Centre in Winnipeg, which is one of Canada's busiest and most profitable arenas despite not having an NHL team (though they do have the Moose, obviously).

    However, I think you're giving AEG a little too much power here. Sure, they're the operators of the Sprint Center, but Kansas City still owns the arena and I can just about guarantee you that they're interested in adding a third or even a fourth major sports team to the city, whether that be the NBA, NHL, or both.
     
  3. Duke749

    Duke749 Formerly "BigTuna49"

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    So that's the new angle we're going to take with Atlanta? The arena is TOO busy for NHL hockey? lol Ok. Phillips Arena actually has some competition with the Gwinnett Arena not too far north of Atlanta.
     
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    He probably says that the arena could be more profitable without hockey.
     
  5. Foppa

    Foppa Future Norris Winner

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    AEG had exclusive rights for the past three years in negotiating for a team. I think that just ran out but you are underestimating the ineptness and lack of foresight of our local government.

    http://puckchaser.com/index.php/2010/10/09/kc-officials-blase-about-nhl-in-sprint-center/
     

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