ATD2011 Bio Thread

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  1. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    post your ATD2011 bios here - the longer, more complete, and more organized, the better!
  2. BenchBrawl

    BenchBrawl joueur de hockey

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    how am i suppose to tranfer my bios from one thread to another ?
  3. overpass

    overpass Registered User

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    Jaromir Jagr, RW


    Legends of Hockey:
    Hart Trophy Voting Record
    1995 - 2nd. 27 of a possible 75 voting points.
    1995-96 - 4th. 156 of a possible 540 voting points.
    1997-98 - 2nd to Dominik Hasek. 308 of a possible 540 voting points..
    1998-99 - 1st. 543 of a possible 560 votes.
    1999-00 - 2nd. 395 of a possible 580 voting points.
    2000-01 - 3rd. 210 of a possible 620 voting points.
    2005-06 - 2nd. 974 of a possible 1290 voting points.

    Post-Season All-Star Spots
    1994-95 NHL All-Star Team (1st)
    1995-96 NHL All-Star Team (1st)
    1996-97 NHL All-Star Team (2nd)
    1997-98 NHL All-Star Team (1st)
    1998-99 NHL All-Star Team (1st)
    1999-00 NHL All-Star Team (1st)
    2000-01 NHL All-Star Team (1st)
    2005-06 NHL All-Star Team (1st)

    Stanley Cup: 1991, 1992

    From 1995-2001, Jaromir Jagr scored 760 points - 24% more than the second highest scorer over those years! 498 of those points came at even strength, 32% more than the second highest scorer over this time.

    Over the span of his NHL career (1990-91 to 2007-08), Jagr scored 1599 points, 9% more than the second highest total over this time. 1051 of those points came at even strength, 22% more than the second highest total over this time.

    Over the span of his NHL career (1990 to 2007-08), Jagr was +275, the highest total of any forward over that time. This despite the fact that with Jagr off the ice, his teams were slightly below average (0.97 GF/GA ratio at even strength).

    Clutch goal scorer - 112 GWG (2nd all-time) and 15 overtime goals (t-1st all-time).

    Outside the NHL

    1998 Olympic Gold Medal
    2005 World Championship Gold Medal and Tournament All-Star (note: this was during the lockout, where the NHL playoffs did not prevent any players from participating)
    2010 World Championship Gold Medal
    Golden Hockey Stick (an award given to the top Czech ice hockey player): 1995, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008

    In 1989-90, Jagr played for HC Kladno at the age of 17. He finished 8th in goals, 5th in assists, and 7th in points in Czechoslovakia. Jagr returned to Kladno during the 1994 and 2004-05 lockouts. In 1994, he scored 22 points in 11 games, and in 2004 he scored 28 points in 17 games. Jagr also played for Avangard Omsk during the 2004-05 lockout, and led them to the IIHF European Champions Cup.

    Quotes from the SI Vault over Jagr's career

    Jon Scher, SI, 1992:
    E.M. Swift, SI, 1992:
    Gerry Callahan, SI, 1995:
    Michael Farber, SI, 1996:

    Michael Farber, SI, 1999:
    Michael Farber, SI, 2000:

    Kostya Kennedy, SI, 2000:
    Michael Farber, SI, 2006:
    Adjusted Stats

    Jaromir Jagr was arguably as good a scorer as Mario Lemieux at even strength.

    Adjusted Even Strength Points per season during prime (First 10 modern forwards drafted)
    The adjustment is to a league scoring level of 200 even strength goals per team per season. The power play adjusted points are also included - those are adjusted to a league scoring level of 70 power play goals per team per season, and to a league-average number of power play opportunities.

    Lemieux was a much better scorer on the power play and shorthanded. And his numbers would have been better if he had been healthy more often. But at even strength, Jagr was just as productive during their respective primes.

    Note that other players in this list are not all directly comparable to Jagr, some had more defensive roles and contributions. This list should not be taken as a definitive ranking of even strength performance.
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2011
  4. Leaf Lander

    Leaf Lander Registered User Sponsor

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    Toe Blake, Coach

    Seasons 13
    Era Mid 50's late 60's
    RS:914 500 255 159 .634 WINNING PERCENTAGE
    PO:119 82 37 0 .689 WINNING PERCENTAGE
    League championships: 1955-1956, 1957-1962, 1963-1964, 1965-1966, 1967-1968
    Best Season 1961-62 70 42 14 14 .700%
    HOF 1964
    Stanley Cups 8

    #9 Charlie Conacher RW
    Seasons 12
    Era Late 20's Early 40's
    RS 459 225 173 398 523
    PO 49 17 18 35 49
    Adjusted stats 459 393 399 792 323
    Art Ross Trophy (1934, 1935)
    First All-Star Team (1934, 1935, 1936)
    Second All-Star Team (1932, 1933)
    Stanley Cups 1
    HOF 1961
    Top 10 Goals
    1930-31 (1)1931-32 (1)1933-34 (1)1934-35 (1)1935-36 (1)
    Top 10 Points
    1930-31 (3)1931-32 (4)1933-34 (1)1934-35 (1)1935-36 (4)
    Top 100 Leafs of all Time book 6
    Top 100 The hockey News (Late 1990's) 36th
    Role Power Forward

    #3 Sylvain Cote D

    Seasons 18
    Era Mid 80's -mid 2000's
    RS 1171 122 313 435 545 +39
    PO 102 11 22 33 62
    Best Season 1993-94 84 16 35 51 66 +30
    Stanley Cup Finals 1
    Role Power play specialist 7th d-man

    #10 Billy Coutu,D
    Height: 5'11''
    Weight: 190 lbs
    Position: Defense
    Shoots: Left
    Date of Birth: March 01, 1892
    Place of Birth: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
    Date of Death: February 25, 1977 (Age: 84)
    Stanley Cup Champion (1924)
    Stanley Cup Finalist (1917, 1919*, 1925)
    Team Captain (1925-1926)
    Top-10 Penalty Minutes (3rd, 7th, 8th, 8th)
    Top-10 Scoring Among defenseman (7th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 9th, 10th, 10th)
    Top-10 Goalscoring among defenseman (6th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 10th)
    Top-10 Assist among defenseman (5th, 6th, 8th, 8th, 10th, 10th)
    Top-10 Penalty Minutes among defenseman (2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 9th)
    Top-10 Playoff Goalscoring (8th)
    Top-10 Playoff Assist (9th)
    Top-10 Playoff Penalty Minutes (1st, 8th)
    Top-10 Playoff Scoring Among defenseman (3rd, 6th)
    Top-10 Playoff Goalscoring among defenseman (1st)
    Top-10 Playoff Assist among defenseman (1st)
    Top-10 Playoff Pim among defenseman (1st, 4th, 5th)[/B]

    - In 1916, Coutu won the U.S.A. Senior championship with the Michigan Soo Indians
    - On November 24th, 1916, Coutu signed as a free agent by Montreal Canadiens in the National Hockey Association
    - In 1919, Coutu alongside Joe Hall, Edouard Lalonde, Jack McDonald and manager George Kennedy contracted influenza and were hospitalized. Teammate Joe Hall died during Game 5 and the Stanley Cup finals was cancelled.
    - On November 27th, 1920, Coutu was loaned to the Hamilton Tigers by the Montreal Canadiens as part of trade of Jack McDonald, Harry Mummery and Dave Ritchie for Jack Coughlin, Goldie Prodgers and Joe Matte
    - On January 12nd 1924,Coutu missed seven games due to a broken wrist suffered in a game against the Toronto St. Patricks
    - On January 19th 1926, he was suspended one game and fined 100$ by theNHL for tripping referee Jerry Laflamme against the Ottawa Senators
    - At the end of Game 4 of the 1927 Stanley Cup, Coutu started a bench-clearing brawl, apparently at the request of coach Art Ross, by assaulting referee Jerry Laflamme and tackling referee Billy Bell. As a result, he was expelled from the NHL for life. On October 8th, 1929, the suspension was lifted so that Coutu could play in the minor leagues. He never played in the NHL again, although he was reinstated in 1932–33 at the insistence of Leo Dandurand
    - During the 1933-34 season, Coutu played one game in goal for the Providence Reds in the Canadian American Hockey League, allowing 12 goals
    - Coutu was a longtime Minor Pro Coach and referee after his playing days

    -Several hockey history books, including The Hockey News "Habs Heroes" by Ken Campbell incorrectly attribute his name to a photograph of teammate Louis Berlinguette. He and his family pronounced their name "Koochee", which was sometimes confused with "Couture".

    -Ms. Aird Stuart, the sister of Coutu's wife, Gertrude Aird, was the mother of Mary Morenz and grandmother of Marlene Geoffrion, daughter of Howie Morenz and widow of Bernie Geoffrion.

    -Howie Morenz played with Coutu on the Canadiens.-wikipedia

    In the spring of 1924, the Canadiens made their way back into contention for the Stanley Cup. With Georges Vézina in nets and Couture creating mayhem on the blue line, Montreal was almost unimpeded in their efforts.

    - Bob Duff, historian

    - Ernie Fitzsimmons, historian


    #8 Rusty Crawford, LW

    Seasons 16
    Era Early 1020's late 1920's
    RS NHA 99 66 32 98 NHL 38 108 18
    PO 2 2 1 3
    Best Season
    HHOF -1962
    Stanley Cup 2
    Role Two way warrior

    #2 Red Dutton, D
    Seasons 10
    Era Mid 20's -Mid 30's
    RS:449 29 67 96 43
    PO 18 1 0 1 33
    World War I Vet

    #4 Dave Ellett

    Joe Pelletier
    Era:Mid 1980's early 2000's
    RS 1129 153 415 568 197
    PO 116 11 46 57 19
    Best Season 1987-88 - 68 13 45 58
    All-Star Games 1989 1992
    10 seasons 30+ Points
    9 Seasons 40+ Points
    3 Seasons 50+ Points
    Ranked 73rd all time leaf
    Role: Offensive defenceman

    #8 Ron Ellis, RW

    Seasons 16
    Era mid 60's early 1980's
    RS 1034 332 308 640 207
    PO 70 18 8 26 20
    Lost 2 seasons due to early retirement
    Eleven 20+ Goal Seasons
    Two 30 + Goal Seasons
    Best Season 1974–75 79 32 29 61 25\
    * 1966–67 - Stanley Cup Champion
    * 1963–64 - NHL All-Star Game
    * 1964–65 - NHL All-Star Game
    * 1967–68 - NHL All-Star Game
    * 1969–70 - NHL All-Star Game
    * [(1972)] Team Canada
    runner-up to Roger Crozier as the rookie-of-the-year.
    Second All-Star Team (1964)
    Role 2 way player /sniper

    #4 Ron Greschner, D
    THE TOP 100 RANGERS OF ALL TIME BookRuss Cohen
    Oct. 9, 1986 to Dec. 3, 1987
    NHL All-Star Game — 1980
    Players` Player Award — 1977-78 (co-winner)
    Rangers Good Guy Award — 1985-86
    "Crumb Bum" Award (Community Service) — 1984-85
    1979 Challenge Cup — NHL All-Stars vs. USSR (reserve, did not play)
    Most assists — 1977-78, 1980-81
    Most playoff assists — 1980
    Seasons 16
    Era Mid-1970's -early 1990's
    RS 982 179 431 610 80 1,226
    PO 84 17 32 49
    Best Season 1977-78 NYR 78 24 48 72
    20 Goal Seasons -4
    Stanley Cup Appearances 1
    Role: Franchise Defenceman


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    #1 Reggie M. Lemelin

    legends -Joe Pelletier
    Seasons 16
    Era Late 70'S Mid 90'S
    RS 507 236 162 63 .884 3.46 12
    PO 59 23 25 .881 3.58 2
    Best Season 1984-85 56 30 12 10 .888 3.46 1
    All-Star Games 1989
    William M. Jennings Trophy 1989-90
    Shutouts -5 top 10's
    Goals Against Average 4 top 10's
    Wins 4 top 10's
    Save Percentage 3 top 10's
    20 Win Seasons 5
    30 Win Seasons 2
    Role Back Up Goalie/ Team Glue

    #7 Ted Lindsay,LW

    Seasons 17
    Era 1Mid 1940's to mid 1960's
    RS 1068 379 472 851 1808
    PO 133 47 49 96 194
    NHL 1st All-Star Team 9 Times
    All Star Games 10
    Top 10 Goals 1946-47 (6)1947-48 (1)1948-49 (2)49-50 (9) 1950-51(6) 1951-52 (3)1952-53 (2)1953-54 (5)55-56 (6) 56-57(6)
    All Time Goal Leaders NHL Career (97) 379
    Top 10 Points 1947-48 NHL (9)1948-49 (3) 1949-50 (1)1950-51 (7)
    1951-52 (2)1952-53 (2)1953-54 (3)1956-57 (2)
    Stanley Cup 4
    HOF 1970
    Top 100 The hockey News (Late 1990's)21
    Role Leader /Stud Forward

    #27 Scott Niedermayer, D

    Era Early 1990's - till early 2010's
    Stanley Cup 4
    HOF not yet
    22nd all time scoring d-man with 784 pts
    All Star Games 1998,2001, 2004, 2008, 2009
    All-Rookie Team (1st)1992-93
    All-Star Team (2nd)1997-98
    1ST All-Star Team 2003-04 2005-06 2006-07
    James Norris Memorial Trophy 2003-04
    Conn Smythe Trophy 2006-07
    RS 1263 172 568 740 245 167 784
    PO 202 25 73 98 20 155
    Role: All round Franchise dman

    #3 Dion Phaneuf, D
    Seasons 6
    Era-Mid 2000's -Present
    RS 466 85 183 268 642 + 15
    PO 25 5 7 12 2
    Best Season 2007-08 82 17 43 60 182 12
    Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    NHL All-Rookie Team (2006)
    NHL First All-Star Team (2008)
    Played in NHL All-Star Game (2007, 2008)
    Role Franchise defenceman

    #10 Joe Primeau,C

    Joe Pelletier

    Top 100 Leafs-Mike Leonetti

    Seasons 9
    Era mid 20's mid 30's
    Best Season 1931-32 46 13 37 50
    Adjusted stats 310 114 498 612
    Top 10 Assist- 5 times
    Top 10 Assists Per Game 7 times
    Top 10 Points
    1930-31 (6)1931-32 (2) 1933-34 (2)
    Comparable player: Doug Gilmour
    Lady Byng Memorial Trophy (1932)
    Second All-Star Team Centre (1934)
    RS 310 66 177 243 105
    PO 38 5 18 23 12
    Stanley Cups 1
    HOF 1963
    Top 100 Leafs of all Time book 19
    Top 100 The hockey News (Late 1990's) 92nd
    Note: lead the leaf in assist for 5 straight seasons a record that stood till mats sundin did the same thing for the buds for 7 campaigns straight.
    Role: Magician 1st line playmaker

    #44 Stephane Richer,RW-

    He had all the offensive tools. He possessed excellent skating ability, Richer refused to be intimidated,utilizing all of his size and strength to find scoring lanes so he could unload his cannon-like shot with the lightning quick release were all harmonized under one helmet. -legends

    Seasons: 18
    Era: mid 1980's early 2000's
    RS:1054 421 398 819 339 76
    PO:134 53 45 98 41 2
    Best Season: 1989-90 75 51 40 91
    All-Star Games 1990
    Top 10 in Goals 1987-88 NHL 50 (6)-1989-90 NHL 51 (7)
    Career Overall Goals NHL 421 (72 All Time)
    Game-Winning Goals 1987-88 11 (1) 1989-90 8 (6) 1993-94 9 (4)
    1994-95 5 (7)
    Career Game-Winning Goals 72 (35 All Time)
    Stanley Cups 2
    Role: Sniper/ 2 way forward

    -#12 Eric Staal,C
    Seasons 9
    Era Early 200's -present
    RS 547 222 269 491 14 84
    PO 43 19 24 43 -3 10
    Top 10 Goals Goals2005-06 45 (8) 2008-09 40 (5
    Best Season:2005-06 Carolina 82 45 55 100
    All-Star Games-2007 2008 2009& 2011
    NHL 2nd All-Star Team 2005-06
    Stanley Cup's 1
    Captain Carolina Present
    Role -2 way power forward

    #11 Jordan Staal,C
    Seasons 5
    Era Mid 2000'S PRESENT
    RS 369 95 103 198 42 13
    PO 60 16 8 24 -14
    2008-09 Stanley Cup
    2006-07 NHL - All-Rookie Team
    2006-07 Played in the NHL YoungStars Game
    Top Defensive player overall for the last few seasons

    #32 Steve Thomas RW
    RS: 1235 421 512 933
    PO: 174 54 53 107
    Era: Mid 80's Mid 2000's
    Seasons 20
    Best Season 1992–93 New York Islanders 79 37 50 87
    Stanley Cup Finals 1
    60 Points+ Seasons -8
    20 Goal Seasons + 10
    30 Goal Seasons+ 5
    40 Goal Seasons 2
    Game winning Goals 23rd all time with 78
    Overtime Goals 12th all time with 10
    Playoff Shots on Goal All Time 20th with 444
    70 career game winning goals, ranking him among the all time best of ll time
    All Time Points - 85th with 933
    All Time Goals- 68th with 421
    Highest All Time Scoring player from England
    Toronto Maple Leafs Top 100 Book Ranked 64th
    Role: Sniper/Clutch Player

    #7 Gary Unger,C
    Played in NHL All-Star Game (1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978)
    Top 10 Goals 1969-70 NHL 42 (2) 1972-73 NHL 41 (6)
    Career NHL 413 76 all time highest total
    RS 1105 413 391 804 131 1075
    PO 52 12 18 30 12
    Seasons of 20 or more goals 11
    30 goal seasons-7
    40 goal seasons-2
    Best Season -75-76 80 39 44 83
    All time Points 137th -804 points
    Alll time Goals -77th 413
    Retired as the 31st all tiem points leader with 804 points
    Game-Winning Goals -Career NHL 54 (85)
    Role: 2 way center /Iron Man

    #26 Thomas Vanek RW

    Seasons 6
    Era Present
    RS 465 200 180 379 286 +31
    PO 29 10 5 15 18
    Best Season 2006-07 82 43 41 84 40 47
    Goals 2006-07 43 (5) 2008-09 40 (5)
    2006-07 NHL All-Star Team (2nd)
    NHL All Star 2009
    Power Play Goals2007-08 19 (2) 2008-09 20 (1)
    Game-Winning Goals2007-08 9 (3) 2009-10 6 (10)
    NHL best +47, earning the NHL Plus/Minus Award 05-06
    Role 2 way player /sniper /speedster

    # 30 Cam Ward,G
    RS 342 173 125 32 .909 2.75 15
    PO 41 23 18 4 2.38 .917
    Seasons 6
    Era mid 2000's -Present
    Best Season 2008–09 68 39 23 5 6 2.44 .916
    Stanley Cups 1
    2007 World Championships (gold medal)
    2008 World Championships (silver medal)
    All-Rookie Team (2005)
    Conn Smythe Trophy (2006)
    30 win seasons-4
    Top 10 Wins 2007-08 37 (4) 08-09 39 (3) 10-11 35 (3)
    2011 All Star Team
    Role: Relief Starting Franchise Goalie

    I'll have time to write bios on the 4 players left on saturday.
    #8 Cooney Weiland, C
    Seasons 10
    Era lat 20's -late 1930's
    RS 509 173 160 333 147
    PO 45 12 10 22 12
    Adjusted stats 509 288 393 681 264
    1934-35 NHL NHL All-Star Team (2nd)
    Best Seasons 1929–30 44 43 30 73 27
    Top 10 points -2 times
    Top 10 goals- 2 times
    Art Ross Trophy (1930)
    First All-Star Team Coach (1941)
    Lester Patrick Trophy (1972)
    Second All-Star Team Centre (1935)
    Stanley Cups 2

    #1 Gump Worsley, G
    Era:Early 50's mid 1970's
    RS:861 335 352 150 43 2.88
    PO:70 40 26 5 2.78
    Career Games 861 (10 All Time)
    Career NHL Wins 335 (17th All Time )
    Calder Memorial Trophy-1952-53
    Vezina Trophy-1965-66-1967-68
    NHL All-Star Team (2nd)1965-66
    NHL All-Star Team (1st)1967-68
    Stanley Cups -4
    HOF- 1980
    Role:Franchise Goalie:

    #25 Peter Zezel, C
    Era Mid 1980's late 1990's
    RS 873 219 389 608 39 435
    PO 131 25 39 64 4 83
    Best Season 1989-90 73 25 47 72
    Played in over 1000 NHL games
    Holds flyers record for assists by a rookie
    Went to the Cup finals with the flyers twice
    Five time 20+ goal scorer
    On Jan16, 1991 Peter realized a childhood dream and got traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs. He helped lead the leafs to the conference finals twice
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  5. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    try this. hit "reply" below your post as though you are going to quote it. Copy the entire post, then cancel your reply and come to the bio thread and paste that copied info into a new post.
  6. jkrx

    jkrx Registered User

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    Stephen Gregory "Steve" Yzerman, C


    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 185 lbs
    Shoots: Right
    Born: May 9, 1965 in Cranbrook, British Columbia
    Number: 19

    Drafted by the Detroit Red Wings in the 1st round (4th overall) of the 1983 NHL Entry Draft.

    Inducted into Hockey Hall of Fame as Player in 2009

    - Stanley Cup Champion (1997, 1998 and 2002)
    - Stanley Cup Finalist (1995)
    - Conn Smythe Trophy (1998)
    - Frank J. Selke Trophy (2000)
    - Lester B. Pearson Trophy (1989)
    - Bill Masterton Trophy (2003)
    - NHL 1st All-Star Team (2000)
    - NHL All-Rookie Team (1984)
    - Top-10 in Goals 6 Times (6th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 6th, 6th)
    - Top-10 in Assists 5 Times (7th, 3rd, 10th, 7th, 3rd)
    - Top-10 in Points 6 Times (3rd, 3rd, 7th, 7th, 4th, 10th)
    - Top-10 in Even Strenght Goals 6 Times (3rd, 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 5th)

    All-time with the Red Wings
    Goals: 2nd with 692; behind Gordie Howe (786)
    Assists: 1st with 1063
    Points: 2nd with 1755; behind Gordie Howe (1809)
    Games Played: 2nd with 1514; 2nd behind Gordie Howe (1678)

    All-Time NHL

    Goals: 692 ( 8th)
    Assists: 1063 (7th)
    Points: 1755 (6th)
    Games Played: 1514 (10th)

    - Olympic Champion (2002)

    Last edited: Jan 31, 2011
  7. jkrx

    jkrx Registered User

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    He could just hit the "edit"-button and copy and paste.
  8. DoMakc

    DoMakc Registered User

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    We can name undrafted players/coaches in the bio thread, that's actually the reason we have it, so you can edit the names from Yzerman's bio back.
  9. jkrx

    jkrx Registered User

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    Ok, didn't know names will be put back.
  10. BenchBrawl

    BenchBrawl joueur de hockey

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    Nickname: ''The Great One''
    Height: 6-0
    Weight: 185 lbs
    Shoots: Left
    Position: Center

    1487 games.
    894 goals. (1st)
    1963 assists. (1st)
    2857 points.(1st)
    1,92 point per game(1st)
    208 playoff games.
    122 playoff goals. (1st)
    260 playoff assists. (1st)
    383 playoff points.(1st)
    18 invitations to All-Star game.
    NHL All-Star Team: ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2 )
    9x Top 10 goal NHL: ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 5, 6 )
    19x Top 10 assist NHL: ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 5, 6, 9 )
    16x Top 10 point NHL: ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4 )
    Most goals in a season: 92 (1st)
    Most assists in a season: 163 (1st)
    Most points in a season: 215 (1st)
    Scored 50 goals in 39 games (1st)
    Only player to reach 200 pts in a season (4 times)
    11 consecutive 100 assists seasons.
    8 consecutive 50 goals seasons. (total 9)
    Hart Trophy: 9 (1st)
    Art Ross Trophy: 10 (1st)
    Lady Byng Trophy: 5
    Lester B Pearson Trophy: 5 (1st)
    Conn Smythe Trophy: 2
    Stanley Cup: 4
    Gold Medals: 3


    Last edited: Jan 31, 2011
  11. BenchBrawl

    BenchBrawl joueur de hockey

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    Position: Defense

    1461 games.
    248 goals.
    840 assists.
    1088 points.
    247 playoff games.
    50 playoff goals.
    125 playoff assists.
    175 playoff points.
    NHL All-Star Team: ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2 )
    Norris Trophy: 6

    Conn Smythe Trophy: 1
    Stanley Cup: 4
    Olympic Gold Medal: 1
    First Europeen to Captain a Stanley Cup Winner.

    Last edited: Feb 8, 2011
  12. seventieslord

    seventieslord Student Of The Game

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    Yes, that too.

    That's not actually the reason we have it, but it's a nice side benefit that it's an undrafted player "safe zone" as well.
  13. BillyShoe1721

    BillyShoe1721 Terriers

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    C Jean Beliveau.


    6'3", 205lbs.
    1,219 points in 1,125 career NHL games
    176 points in 162 career NHL playoff games
    Hockey Hall of Fame Member
    #7 on THN's List of 100 Greatest Hockey Players
    Montreal Canadiens Captain 1961-1971
    10x Stanley Cup Champion (His name is on the cup 17 times, an all time record)
    2x Hart Trophy Winner (4x 2nd, 1x 3rd, 2x 4th)
    13x NHL All Star Game Participant
    6x 1st Team All-NHL
    4x 2nd Team All-NHL
    1x Art Ross Trophy Winner
    1x Conn Smythe Trophy Winner
    10x Top 10 Goals NHL (1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9)
    11x Top 10 Assists NHL (1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10)
    12x Top 10 Points NHL (1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 6, 8, 8, 9)
    4x Top 10 PP goals NHL (3, 3, 7, 8)
    9x Top 10 Goals NHL Playoffs (1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 6, 6, 8)
    10x Top 10 Assists NHL Playoffs (1, 1, 1, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7)
    11x Top 10 Points NHL Playoffs (1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 9)
    1st in Playoff Points during career(52 ahead of 2nd place)
    2nd in Points during NHL career(behind Howe) beliveau&f=false beliveau&f=false,2299991&dq=jean+beliveau&hl=en,6107717&dq=jean+beliveau&hl=en

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  14. Velociraptor

    Velociraptor Registered User

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    Phil Esposito, C

    Position: Center
    HT/WT: 6'1", 205 lbs
    Shoots: Left
    Nickname(s): "Espo", "The Happy Worrier"


    - 2-time Stanley Cup Winner
    - Member of the Hockey Hall of Fame (1984)
    - 5-time Art Ross Trophy Winner
    - 2-time Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
    - Lou Marsh Trophy, as Canadian Athlete of the Year in 1972
    - Lester Patrick Trophy (personifies contribution to hockey in the United States of America) in 1978.
    - 6 acknowledgements for the NHL First All-Star Team, 2 acknowledgements for the NHL Second All-Star Team
    - 717 goals, 1590 regular season points in 1282 games played.
    - 61 goals, 137 playoff points in 130 games played.

    From the HOH board, intangibles resource gathered from surveys answered by NHL coaches.


    Summit Series Statistics

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  15. DaveG

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    Terrance Gordon "Terry" Sawchuk

    position: Goaltender
    height: 5'11"
    weight: 190lbs
    catches: Left


    * USHL Rookie of the Year (1948)
    * AHL Rookie of the Year (1949)
    * Calder Memorial Trophy winner (1951)
    * NHL First All-Star Team (1951, 1952, and 1953)
    * NHL Second All-Star Team (1954, 1955, 1959, and 1963)
    * Vezina Trophy winner (1952, 1953, 1955, and 1965)
    * Stanley Cup championships (1952, 1954, 1955, and 1967)
    * Lester Patrick Trophy winner (1971)
    * Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1971
    * Inducted into the Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame and Museum in 1982
    * In 1998, he was ranked number 9 on The Hockey News' list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players, the highest-ranking goaltender
    * On March 6, 1994, the Detroit Red Wings retired his #1 jersey
    * Selected to Manitoba's All-Century First All-Star Team
    * Selected as Manitoba's Player of the Century
    * “Honoured Member” of the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame
  16. BraveCanadian

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    With their first round pick (15) in the 2011 ATD, the Guelph Platers have selected: Bryan Trottier, C




    Career Highlights:
    6 time Stanley Cup Champion 1980,1981,1982,1983 New York Islanders - 1991, 1992 Pittsburgh Penguins
    1975-76 Calder Trophy Winner (with a record 95 points at the time)
    1978-79 Art Ross Trophy Winner
    1978-79 Hart Memorial Trophy Winner
    1979-80 Conn Smythe Trophy Winner
    1988-89 King Clancy Memorial Trophy Winner
    2 x 1st Team All Star at C (Post Season)
    2 x 2nd Team All Star at C (Post Season)
    Inducted to the Hockey Hall of Fame 1997

    Born: July 17, 1956
    Position: C
    Height: 5-11
    Weight: 195 lbs

    Regular Season:
    6-time 100 point scorer, including 5 consecutive seasons.
    Led the NHL in assists twice.
    11-time 30+ goal scorer, 5 time 40+ goal scorer including a peak 50 goal season.
    Led the NHL in +/- one time.

    Over the Islanders 5 straight Stanley Cup final runs Trottier put up 121 points in 96 games while helping his team win a record 19 straight playoff series.

    A little known fact is a testimonial to Trottier's consistency during the playoffs: He is the unofficial record holder for scoring at least one point in 27 consecutive playoff games. (80-82)

    As a role player with the Penguins, Trottier captured 2 additional Stanley Cups and was credited by Mario Lemieux for teaching the Penguins what it took to win.

    Trottier led the NHL playoffs in scoring two times and won the Conn Smythe trophy in 1980.​

    Quotations and Perspective:


    BRYAN TROTTIER From Hockey Outsider


    Will add more when I have some time to search for some tidbits I remember from before...
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  17. arrbez

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    Jacques Plante

    Jacques Plante


    Hart Memorial Trophy: 1962
    NHL First Allstar Team: 1956, 1959, 1962
    NHL Second Allstar Team: 1957, 1958, 1960, 1972
    Stanley Cup Champion: 1953, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960
    Led NHL in GAA: 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1962, 1969, 1971
    Led NHL in sv%: 1956, 1959, 1962, 1971
    Led NHL in wins: 1956, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1962
    Led NHL in shutouts: 1957, 1958, 1959, 1963


    - Plante holds the record for highest sv% ever in a single season: .942 sv% in 1971
    - Plante won the Cup 6 times, with an average GAA of 1.80 in those playoffs
    - Plante won the Vezina in 3 different decades with 3 different teams
    - Plante is regarded as the first goalie to regularly leave his net to play the puck
    - Jacques Plante once ate an entire birthday cake before anyone could tell him there was a stripper inside
  18. hfboardsuser

    hfboardsuser Registered User

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    Syl Apps Sr., C


    "Syl had said he was going to get the first guy that started dirty work. They've been going after (him) too long. Just because he stuck to clean play they thought they could get away with anything"- XXXX XXXXX, after Apps dropped the gloves with XXXXXXX "XXXXX" XXXXXXX

    Syl Apps vs. Yzerman/Messier/Clarke

    While longevity is a key factor in the ATD, peak is, ultimately, where we judge the majority of a player's worth. After all, which matters to you more when considering who would win in a hypothetical match-up between two stars- whether Player A scored 35 points at age 40, or whether he had 135 at age 25? When compared at their peak, Syl Apps looks very, very good against three players that are consistently drafted ahead of him- Steve Yzerman, Mark Messier and Bobby Clarke.




    Comments: Yzerman is the perfect example of a player whose longevity is often cited as a plus- which it is. But Yzerman was an unusual player for a Top 50 of all-time; he began his career as a relatively one-dimensional offensive superstar, and evolved later into a two-way presence. But as this study shows, even at his very best one-way peak, Yzerman was only clearly a better goal-scorer than Apps- who both was a better playmaker and a better overall point producer.



    Comments: Obviously, there are other factors in play that lead to Messier cracking the top 30. But as the following quotes will indicate, Apps was both noted for his exemplary leadership and had no trouble leading his teams to Stanley Cups. So how do they stack up in regular season peak production? Very closely. Apps was clearly the better goal-scorer, and while Messier has more 5th place finishes, they're about equal in terms of 2nd and 3rds- Messier one fewer second place and one more third in each category.



    Perhaps the most surprising discovery in this study was the amazing similarity offensively between Apps and Bobby Clarke. Both led the league in assists twice, and both were 2nd in points at least twice. Clarke won two Stanley Cups, Apps three. So why does Clarke continually go so much higher? Defensive play is the major reason- while Clarke is generally considered the best "two-way" player in the history of the game, is that really worth 20+ spots in the ATD? If it can be proven that Apps was at least above-average defensively, should the difference not be 10 or even 5 spots in an overall context?


    As said, intangibles are what push players like Messier, Yzerman and Clarke above Apps- two of them due to incredible leadership, and in Clarke's case, defense. Leadership is the easiest area to make a case for Apps:

    "He was an inspirational leader who had the talent of setting his teammates on fire with his own all-out play"- Regina Leader-Post, 1949

    "Inspired by the return of their mighty captain, Syl Apps, Toronto over- whelmed the Boston Bruins, 7 to 2, at Maple Leaf Gardens"- New York Times

    ''He represents what pro athletes should be. He was the Jean Beliveau of English Canada.'' - Former Leaf Jim Dorey

    "His leadership skills were never more evident than when he led the Leafs back from a three-game-to-none deficit against Detroit."- Top 100 Maple Leafs of All-Time

    "Syl's great play-making and leadership wasn't the only things the Leafs lacked."- Ottawa Citizen

    (credit to EagleBelfour for many of the above)

    Of course, the proof is in the pudding; Apps was captain in Toronto for three Stanley Cups, including the aforementioned comeback from three games down.

    Defensively is another matter. No in the ATD has yet to produce much evidence that he was as effective or diligent in his end as he was in the other, this despite being perhaps the fastest skater in hockey and its most intelligent. In addition, due to the fact he took fewer penalties than most any other player, Apps would have been available during most every PK.

    I figured the best source for research would be the most obvious- The Globe and Mail. As a Toronto paper, their write-ups of Leafs games were often the longest and most detailed.

    Before the archive seemingly crashed for the day, I did find this:

    When asked about Bobby Orr's infamous flying goal, Apps was able to perfectly elucidate the defensive miscues that led up to it, and there are numerous G&M references about him stealing pucks from opposing players or jumping on give-aways. It makes me wonder; was Apps a better version of a modern-day Russian center? Without ice-time- or even shorthanded goals- it's impossible to know. However, that modern player I'm referring to is currently 11th on his team in SH TOI despite being generally known as a two-way ace. Would Apps have had less in T.O.? I doubt it- it's never been said that he was bad defensively. If anyone has a source that says otherwise, I'd love to see it. Hopefully we can clear that up this ATD.
  19. Dreakmur

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    Orillia, Ontario


    Ray Bourque !!!

    Awards and Achievements:
    Hockey Hall of Fame (2004)

    Stanley Cup Champion (2001)
    2 x Stanley Cup Champion (1988, 2001)

    5 x Norris Trophy Winner (1987, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1994)
    13 x First Team All-Star (1980, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 2001)
    6 x Second Team All-Star (1981, 1983, 1986, 1989, 1995, 1999)

    Voting Results:
    Norris Trophy – 1st(1987), 1st(1988), 1st(1990), 1st(1991), 1st(1994), 2nd(1982), 2nd(1985), 2nd(1992), 2nd(1993), 2nd(1996), 2nd(2001), 3rd(1983), 3rd(1984), 3rd(1995), 3rd(1999), 4th(1980), 4th(1981), 4th(1986), 4th(1989), 7th(1997), 7th(1998), 7th(2000)

    Hart Trophy – 2nd(1987), 2nd(1990), 4th(1991), 5th(1984), 5th(1985), 6th(1996), 8th(1988), 10th(1986), 11th(1996), 13th(1992), 14th(1981), 15th(1982)

    Hart Trophy among Defensemen – 1st(1987), 1st(1988), 1st(1990), 1st(1991), 1st(1994), 2nd(1984), 2nd(1985), 2nd(1986), 2nd(1995), 3rd(1982), 3rd(1992), 4th(1981)

    Regular Season Scoring:
    Points – 9th(1987), 11th(1991), 14th(1984), 20th(1994)
    Assists – 2nd(1987), 4th(1991), 5th(1994), 8th(1985), 9th(1984), 10th(1988), 10th(1990), 11th(2001), 13th(1992), 14th(1996), 17th(1995), 17th(1999), 18th(1993)

    Points among Defensemen –1st(1987), 1st(1994), 2nd(1984), 2nd(1985), 2nd(1988), 2nd(1991), 2nd(1992), 2nd(1995), 2nd(1996), 2nd(1999), 3rd(1990), 3rd(1993), 3rd(2001), 4th(1986), 5th(1980), 5th(1983), 6th(2000), 7th(1997), 8th(1982)
    Goals among Defensemen – 1st(1981), 1st(1987), 1st(1996), 2nd(1983), 2nd(1984), 2nd(1992), 2nd(2000), 3rd(1995), 3rd(1997), 4th(1991), 4th(1994), 5th(1980), 6th(1985), 6th(1990) 7th(1988), 7th(1989), 7th(1993), 8th(1982), 8th(1986)
    Assists among Defensemen – 1st(1987), 1st(1999), 2nd(1984), 2nd(1985), 2nd(1988), 2nd(1990), 2nd(1991), 2nd(1992), 2nd(1992), 2nd(1994), 2nd(1996), 3rd(1986), 3rd(2001), 4th(1995), 6th(1980), 6th(1982), 7th(1983), 10th(1998), 10th(2000)

    Peak 5 Years (1984 to 1988)
    15th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and Points per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Goals and Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and Assists per Game among defensemen

    Peak 10 Years (1985 to 1994)
    11th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and Points per Game among defensemen
    3rd in Goals and Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and Assists per Game among defensemen

    Peak 15 Years (1981 to 1995)
    9th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and Points per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Goals and Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and Assists per Game among defensemen

    Peak 20 Years (1982 to 2001)
    7th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and Points per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Goals and Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and Assists per Game among defensemen

    Play-off Scoring:
    Play-off Points – 6th(1983), 6th(1991), 7th(1988)
    Play-off Goals – 9th(1983)
    Play-off Assists – 3rd(1988), 4th(1991), 5th(1983), 8th(1990), 10th(1999)

    Play-off Points among Defensemen – 1st(1983), 1st(1988), 1st(1990), 1st(1991), 2nd(2001), 4th(2000), 5th(1980)
    Play-off Goals among Defensemen – 1st(1983), 1st(1990), 1st(1991), 3rd(2001)
    Play-off Assists among Defensemen – 1st(1983), 1st(1988), 1st(1990), 1st(1991), 2nd(2000), 4th(1980), 4th(1999)

    Peak 5 Years (1988 to 1992)
    7th in Points among all players
    1st in Points and 4th in Points per Game among Defensemen
    1st in Goals and 5th in Goals per game among Defensemen
    1st in Assists and 4th in Assists per Game among Defensemen

    Peak 10 Years (1983 to 1992)
    10th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and 4th in Points per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Goals and 9th in Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and 3rd in Assists per Game among defensemen

    Peak 15 Years (1982 to 1996)
    8th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and 5th in Points per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Goals and 11th in Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and 5th in Assists per Game among defensemen

    Peak 20 Years (1982 to 2001)
    8th in Points among all players
    2nd in Points and 5th in Points per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Goals and 11th in Goals per Game among defensemen
    2nd in Assists and 4th in Assists per Game among defensemen

    International Accomplishments:
    2 x Canada Cup Champion (1984, 1987)
    Canada Cup Finalist (1981)

    Canada Cup All-Star (1987)
    Leading scorer among Defensemen (1987)

    1993 Coach’s Poll:
    Tied for 2nd Best Player
    2nd Best Defensive Defenseman
    2nd Best Offensive Defenseman
    Tied for 2nd Smartest Player
    Tied for 5th Hardest Worker
    Tied for 4th Hardest Shot

    1994 Coach’s Poll:
    Tied for 3rd Best Player
    1st Best Defensive Defenseman
    2nd Best Offensive Defenseman
    Tied for 4th Best Shot

    Number Games:
    Based on a study conducted here:

    Of modern defensemen, Bourque is among the very best at even thrength, on the powerplay, and on the penalty kill.

    Newspaper Clippings:
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2011
  20. JFA87-66-99

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    more to come.........thanks to Dreakmur for the info

    Valeri Kharlamov

    [International Awards and Accomplishments:
    IIHF Hall of Fame (1998)
    Hockey Hall of Fame (2005)

    2 x Olympic Gold Medalist (1972, 1976)
    8 x World Championship Gold Medalist (1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979)
    IIHF Best Forward (1976)
    4 x IIHF All-Star (1972, 1973, 1975, 1976)
    Izvestia Cup Best Forward (1973)
    2 x Izvestia Cup Leading Scorer (1975, 1977)
    IIHF Centennial All-Star

    International Scoring Accomplishments:
    Points – 1st(1972), 5th(1976), 5th(1980)
    Goals – 1st(1972)
    Assists – 1st(1972), 1st(1976), 1st(1980)

    World Championships
    Points – 2nd(1971), 2nd(1979), 3rd(1973), 4th(1975), 4th(1977), 5th(1969), 7th(1970), 8th(1972), 10th(1974)
    Goals – 2nd(1977), 2nd(1979), 4th(1969), 4th(1970), 4th(1973), 4th(1975), 8th(1972)
    Assists – 1st(1971), 2nd(1973), 3rd(1969), 3rd(1979), 4th(1972), 4th(1978), 6th(1974)

    Summit/Super Series’
    Points – 4th(1974), 5th(1972), 5th(1976)
    Goals – 4th(1972)
    Assists – 1st(1976), 3rd(1974), 4th(1972)

    Soviet League Awards and Accomplishments:
    11 x League Champion (1968, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981)
    11 x European Cup Champion (1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981)

    2 x MVP (1972, 1973)
    7 x All-Star (1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978)

    MVP Voting – 1st(1972), 1st(1973), 2nd(1975), 2nd(1976), 4th(1969), 4th(1971), 5th(1970), 5th(1974)

    Soviet League Scoring:
    Points – 1st(1972), 2nd(1971), 3rd(1969), 3rd(1970), 4th(1975), 4th(1978), 5th(1976), 5th(1979), 6th(1974), 9th(1977), 10th(1973)
    Goals – 1st(1971), 2nd(1972), 3rd(1969), 4th(1978), 5th(1970), 5th(1974), 7th(1976), 7th(1977), 9th(1973), 9th(1975), 12th(1979)
    Assists – 1st(1972), 2nd(1975), 3rd(1969), 3rd(1970), 3rd(1978), 4th(1976), 5th(1971), 5th(1979), 6th(1973), 9th(1974), 12th(1980)
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2011
  21. EagleBelfour

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    I actually wanted to do that aswell for my selection. I just wasn't able to find a picture of Harvey with the Red Wings.

    And don't think I havn't read the last sentence of your bio!
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2011
  22. Velociraptor

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    Sprague Cleghorn, D

    Position: Defenseman
    HT/WT: 5'10", 190 lbs (In his era, Cleghorn was one of the biggest players in the league.)
    Shoots: Left
    Nickname: "Peg"


    - 3-time Stanley Cup Winner
    - Member of the Hockey Hall of Fame (1958)
    - 84 goals, 123 regular season points in 251 games played.
    - 4 goals, 7 playoff points in 21 games played.
    - 84 goals, 117 regular season points in 115 NHA games played. (assists rarely recorded.)
    - Finished 2nd in 1926 Hart Trophy Voting As well as 1924.
    - For what it's worth, Ultimate Hockey award Cleghorn with two retro Norris trophies. (Keep in mind the Norris Trophy was inaugurated in 1954, so these are just based on stats/accolades)

    Cleghorn and xxxxx xxxxx were traded to the Bruins in the 1925-1926 season, and got rowdy with Eddie Shore in practice, leading him to get repairs on his ear. But over time they became close, and Cleghorn acted as a mentor/tutor the young phenom Shore as he constantly improved into a perennial all-star defenseman.
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2011
  23. jarek

    jarek Registered User

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    Earl Seibert, D


    6'2, 220 lbs.
    Right handed shot
    2 Stanley Cups

    NHL Scoring among D

    2nd (1934), 3rd (1935, 1938, 1941, 1943), 4th (1942, 1945), 5th (1936, 1937), 6th (1939, 1944), 8th (1940), 9th (1932)

    Playoff Scoring among D

    1st (1938)*, 4th (1932), 5th (1945), 6th (1933, 1936), 7th (1944)

    *3rd among all players

    From 1934-1945, Seibert was 3rd among defensemen in points, with 86% of 1st place and 99% of 2nd place (7th in points per game among players who played 100 or more games, 76% of 1st place and 81% of 2nd place).

    During Seibert's entire playoff career (1932-1945), Seibert was 3rd in playoff points among defensemen, with 59% of 1st place. In terms of points per game, he had only 48% of Butch Bouchard, but he compares much better with Babe Pratt (63%) and Flash Hollett (67%), but he was definitely much better all around than both of those guys. He compared very favorably to everyone else during this period, including Eddie Shore (76%), Wally Stanowski (83%), and King Clancy (94%). Clearly he was quite a good playoff performer, despite playing largely for miserable teams.

    Award Voting

    Hart: 4th (1934, 1944)

    First Team All Star (1935, 1942, 1943, 1944)
    Second Team All Star (1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1940, 1941)

    Joe Pelletier

    Legends of Hockey

    Ultimate Hockey

    The Trail of the Stanley Cup

    Newspaper Quotes

    The following are detailed play by plays of Seibert's work in specific games.

    Last edited: Feb 27, 2011
  24. EagleBelfour

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    With our first selection, the 4th overall in this year All-Time Draft, the Detroit Falcons are proud to select, Monsieur Douglas Norman Harvey


    Nickname: Dallying Doug
    Height: 5'11''
    Weight: 187 lbs
    Position: Defense
    Shoots: Left
    Date of Birth: December 19, 1924
    Place of Birth: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
    Date of Death: December 26, 1989 (Age: 65)

    Stanley Cup Champion (1953, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960)
    Stanley Cup Finalist (1951, 1952, 1954, 1955, 1968)
    Memorial Cup Participation (1944, 1945)
    Allan Cup Champion (1947)
    NHL First All-Star Team Defence (1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962)
    NHL Second All-Star Team Defence (1959)
    Played in NHL All-Star Game (1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1969)
    AHL Second All-Star Team Defence (1963)
    James Norris Memorial Trophy (1953*, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962)
    Team Captain (1960-1961)
    Canada Sports Hall of Fame (1975)
    Pantheon des Sports du Quebec (1995)
    Hockey Hall of Fame (1973)
    #2 Retired by the Montreal Canadiens (26th of October, 1985)

    - #6 on The Hockey News' list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players (1998 edition)
    - #9 on History of Hockey list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players (2008 edition)
    - #6 on History of Hockey list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players (2009 edition)
    - Voted #1 defensive defenceman of All-Time by Hockey's 100
    - Voted best passer of the 1950's by Ultimate Hockey
    - Voted finest athlete of the 1950's by Ultimate Hockey
    - Voted best Defensive Defenseman of the 1950's by Ultimate Hockey
    - Voted smartest Player of the 1950's by Ultimate Hockey
    - Voted on the 1950's Decade All-Star Defence

    Top-20 Scoring (11th, 13th, 17th)
    Top-20 Assist (2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 12th, 12th, 13th, 13th, 17th)
    Top-10 Penalty minutes (3rd, 3rd)
    Top-10 Scoring Among Defence (1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 7th, 8th)
    Top-10 Goalscoring Among Defence (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 10th)
    Top-10 Assist Among Defence (1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 7th, 8th)
    Top-10 Penalty minutes Among Defence (2nd, 2nd, 6th, 6th, 7th, 9th, 10th, 10th)

    Top-10 Playoff Scoring (5th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 10th)
    Top-10 Playoff Goalscoring (4th)
    Top-10 Playoff Assist (2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 7th)
    Top-10 Playoff Penalty minutes (4th, 8th, 8th, 10th)
    Top-5 Playoff Scoring Among Defence (1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 4th)
    Top-5 Playoff Goalscoring Among Defence (1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd)
    Top-5 Playoff Assist Among Defence (1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 5th, 5th)
    Top-5 Playoff Penalty minutes Among Defence (2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th)

    Awards Nomination:

    James Norris Memorial Trophy:
    The James Norris Memorial Trophy didn't existed in Harvey's first five seasons in the NHL. He was a first All-Star Team member in 1951, 1952 and 1953, which mean he would of probably been a Top-2 Norris finalist in those 3 seasons.

    1953-54: 2nd position (Red Kelly) (-64.8%)
    1954-55: 1st position (+34.6%)
    1955-56: 1st position (+62.2%)
    1956-57: 1st position (+73.6%)
    1957-58: 1st position (+22.2%)
    1958-59: 4th position (Tom Johnson) (-47.8%)
    1959-60: 1st position (+67.5%)
    1960-61: 1st position (+67.9%)
    1961-62: 1st position (+53.9%)

    Hart Memorial Trophy:
    1954-55: 5th position (Ted Kennedy) (-79.1%)
    1955-56: 5th position (Jean Beliveau) (-88.3%)
    1956-57: 5th position (Gordie Howe) (-84.7%)
    1957-58: 3rd position (Gordie Howe) (-61.0%)
    1958-59: 2nd position (Jacques Plante) (-36.2%)

    Professional Career:

    - In 1947-48, he started his NHL career with the Montreal Canadiens
    - In 1960-61, he joined the New York Rangers as player-coach
    - In 1966-67, he played two games with the Detroit Red Wings, more than four years after his last game in the NHL with the New York Rangers
    - Harvey began the 1967-68 schedule with the Kansas City Blues of the CPHL before rejoining the NHL with expansion St. Louis for the playoffs. He played another full season with Blues before retiring for good
    - In 1969, Harvey remained in hockey as the assistant coach of the Los Angeles Kings, and later that year the head coach of the Laval Saints in the QJMHL.
    - In 1973, he became an assistant coach and scout with the WHA's Houston Aeros
    - In 1985, he was offered a scouting position with the Montreal Canadiens


    - ''I'm not throwing any pucks away. I'm trying to do what's best for the team. That's why I take my time and make the play." - Doug Harvey, on his style of play

    - ''I'm running them into the boards and banging them around one minute and because we win the Stanley Cup, that's going to change? I don't really like them anyway. Why should I shake their hands?'' - Doug Harvey, refusing to shake hand with the Boston Bruins after the 1953 Stanley Cup Final

    - ''I think almost every team had a tough fella you had to be careful of. Not necessarily for fighting, but for bodychecking. Pierre Pilote. Fernie Flaman. Leo Boivin. Bobby Baun. Doug Harvey in Montreal. - Andy Bathgate on the toughest competitor in his time

    - ''He was great, always willing to help.'' - Maurice Richard

    - ''The greatest defenceman who ever played the game.'' - Jean Béliveau

    - ''He was cool and deliberate.'' - Milt Schmidt

    - ''If the game was 8-2, Doug Harvey might have a goal and an assist. If the score was 3-2, he'd have 2 or 3 points.'' - Hal Laycoe

    - ''He was so good that he played mind games with the opposition. If he had Orr's legs, he would of been in that class - he was anyway, but he couldn't accelerate like Orr. Doug was more like a Mack Truck.'' - Howie Meeker

    - ''And of course Harvey, we always thought that without Harvey on that team we could beat Montreal because he really was controlling the puck back on that blueline. He'd pick it up and take his time, get it out, move it out, get the guy in the open and throw it to him and away they'd go. To me, he was one of the greatest defenceman to ever play.'' - Martin Pavelich

    - ''He was the best defenceman of our day. I never played with him, so I never knew him personally, but he was well respected.'' - George Armstrong

    - ''One of the greatest player in the history of the game.'' - Pat Burns

    - ''Harvey did what was expected of him. He was nobody’s fool. He was a smart player, someone tough who didn’t mind mixing it up. We all knew we had to bring our best to have a chance of beating him.'' - Dick Duff

    - ''No player put my heart in my mouth like as often as Doug, but I learned to swallow in silence. His style was casual, but it worked. He made few mistakes, and, ninety-nine percent of the time correctly anticipated the play or the pass.'' - Toe Blake

    - ''He could have played center, he could have played left wing, he could have played goal. There was no part of the game he couldn't do.'' - Tom Johnson

    - ''All I know is that the son of a gun came out of nowhere to become the biggest thorn in the side of the Leafs in our glory days. He was an early Bobby Orr, except he did it at semi-slow motion. You always knew what was coming - you could see it happening - but you couldn't do anything about it.'' - Howie Meeker, remembering how his teammate came to fear Harvey's ability to control a game

    - ''Doug played defence in a rocking chair.'' - Toe Blake

    - ''He changed the whole game.'' - Bernard Geoffrion

    -'' I would say Doug Harvey was tremendous. He was a great defensive and offensive player and he did everything with [ease]. He used to get the puck in front of the goaltender and Irvin would warn him that if he ever had the puck taken off his stick and it went in the net it will cost him $500. Dougie would irritate Irvin quite a bit [laughing] as he was standing there with the puck.'' - Elmer Lach, when asked which Hall of Famer he admired the most

    - ''Doug Harvey was the greatest defenseman who ever played hockey, bar none. Usually, a defensemen specializes in one thing and builds a reputation around that, but Doug could do everything well. His style was casual, but it worked. He made few mistakes, and 99% of the time correctly anticipated the play or pass.'' - Dickie Moore

    - ''It's like playing against (Wayne) Gretzky and (Bobby) Orr. It didn't matter what they did, they always beat you.'' - George Armstrong, comparing Doug Harvey to Gretzky and Orr

    - ''No slight to Bobby Orr but Doug Harvey was the best defenseman ever to play the game.'' - Ted Lindsay

    - ''As far as I'm concerned, Harvey's far and away the best defensemen ever." - Toe Blake

    Biography & Personal Life:

    Douglas Norman Harvey was born in Montreal's Notre Dame de Grace neighbourhood on December 19, 1924. A natural athlete from the time of his youth, Doug began playing organized hockey at the age of 13. First, as a goaltender: put there because of his diminutive size. He disliked being stuck in goal, so he was moved to centre. It was only later that he would be placed on defence, a position he would later revolutionize.

    While Harvey excelled at hockey, many will argue that as great as he was on the ice, he was even better on the baseball diamond and the gridiron playing football. In 1942-43, as a member of the Montreal Navy, Harvey was recognize as the most valuable player in the Quebec Rugby Football Union. That squad won football's Grey Cup in 1944, although without their star halfback, Harvey, who was serving his country during the Second World War.

    During World War II, Harvey was a gunner for a merchant ship in the north Atlantic. Upon his return from the war, Harvey served in the Navy. In the 1944-45 season, Harvey played hockey at the same time with the National Defence League's Donnaconas and also played football with the Montreal Hornets, the predecessor of the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League.

    In 1945-46, Doug graduated to the Royals' senior team, and helped the team win the Quebec Senior Hockey League championship. The next year, the Royals went all the way and collected the Allan Cup as Canada's premier senior hockey team. The same year, Doug also played semi-pro baseball with the Ottawa Nationals of the Class 'C' Border League. Harvey, a third baseman, missed much of the end of his baseball season as it took place at the same time as the Montreal Canadiens' training camp.

    In his first training camp with the Canadiens, Harvey made quite an impression with his new club. The Montreal Gazette had this to say on the young defenseman: ''Doug Harvey can skate with the best of them, is big enough to horse around with any of those NHL hard guys, handles his stick expertly and has a head on his shoulders.''

    Doug Harvey made the Montreal Canadiens, replacing Frank Eddolls, who had been traded to the New York Rangers. Doug was even given Eddolls' number 2 to wear with the Habs. Harvey joined a defence corps that included Butch Bouchard, Glen Harmon, Roger Leger and Ken Reardon. It took Doug a few seasons to assert himself as one of the league's premier defencemen, but by 1951-52, he was selected to the NHL's First All-Star Team for the first of ten times.

    With Montreal, his skating ability and puck control skills combined with his shot blocking prowess and toughness were unequalled. Unlike modern defenceman of the like of Niklas Lidstrom and Bobby Orr, Harvey could dominate the game physically as well as with finesse serving up crunching body checks and open ice hits to the opposition when the situation dictated it.

    At the offseason of 1956, Ted Lindsay and Doug Harvey formed the first player’s union to fight for player’s rights. The league at that time was infamous in its disrespect for even the stars of the time. Both were furious that the owners had not matched the 900.00$ per year pension contributions as promised. The contribution by the owners came from All-Star Game tickets and a surcharge on playoff tickets, and not from their own pockets. Harvey and Lindsay, who had fought bloodied battles on the ice, joined forces to organize the players: ''We figured we could do better by the pension plans if we had an association and our own legal advisors,'' explained Harvey. Surprisingly, every players but one kicked in the 100.00$ necessary and the union was started. In 1957, Jimmy Thomson, the veteran defenceman and representative of the Toronto Maple Leafs, was the first to get traded for his involvement in the players union. A couple of years later, both Ted Lindsay and Doug Harvey, all-star players of their respective teams, got traded: all three, for little return. By 1960, the owners succeeded to scuttle the first attempt to form an union.

    While the Montreal Canadiens organization argued that Harvey's trade was motivated by his age and flagging skill-set, Doug was never convinced. "It had to do with union activities," he stated firmly. "I was a First Team All-Star and won the Norris that year. You don't give away a player like that!" It would take another decade before the players finally gain control of their association.

    Harvey then played two season with the New York Rangers. In 1961-62, he was named player-coach and with a 26-32-12 records, was able to squeeze his team into a playoff spot. This was the first time since 1958 and the last time in the Original Six era that the New York Rangers were able to obtain a playoff spot. Moreover, for his effort on the ice, he received his seventh and last James Norris trophy. The 1962-63 season was far less memorable for Harvey and the Rangers. In the fall of 1962, Harvey worked out an arrangement with the management where he could go home between games and didn't even have to practice. The Rangers finished 21 points out of a playoff spot and Harvey was left unprotected by the team.

    It was the beginning of a tumultuous time for Doug. In 1963, Harvey signed with the Quebec Aces of the American Hockey League, where he spent two seasons. In 1965-66, Doug signed as a free agent with the AHL's Baltimore Clippers. Just before Christmas of 1966, he was traded to Providence of the AHL, but exercised a clause in his contract that allowed him to become a free agent if he was traded by the Clippers. In doing so, Harvey joined the Pittsburgh Hornets, the AHL affiliate of the Detroit Red Wings. During that 1966-67 season, he found himself back in the NHL for 2 games with the Detroit Red Wings.

    During the summer of 1967, the newly-formed St. Louis Blues hired Doug to coach their affiliate franchise in Kansas City. Harvey was once again a playing-coach, and the team made the playoffs. But once they were eliminated, the parent Blues called up several players for their playoff run, including Gary Veneruzzo, Don McKenney and Doug Harvey. He also played the entire 1968-69 season with the Blues, but then, at the age of 44, retired from professional hockey.

    During his hockey career and after, Doug Harvey was a troubling personality. He drove his teammates and coaches crazy with his tardiness, stubbornness and often berating ways. Years later, it would be determined Harvey was suffering from bipolar disorder, a manic-depressive disease. Back then, not much was known about the illness. During his playing days with the Montreal Canadiens, Harvey was a dedicated team player, but as the years passed, it was becoming harder and harder to put up with his heavy drinking.

    Decades after his retirement, hard-living had taken its toll on Doug. In the mid-80's, Ronald Corey, who was at the time the president of the Canadiens, was informed of Doug's personal situation and hired him as a part-time scout. Indeed, one of hockey's greatest heroes was living in a railway car, a mobile living unit once used by prime minister John Diefenbaker, at an Ottawa-area race track drinking his life away. ''I go to those games anyway, and I'm sure I can help,'' later said Harvey, on his new job.

    Unfortunately he would spend much of his last few years battling alcohol and mental illness. In 1988, Harvey was diagnosed with liver disease. ''It was just such a strange thing for us to see our father needy,'' admitted Darlene Petsche, the oldest of Doug's daughters. ''All his life he'd been a big, strong, athletic guy who could do anything.'' During the last weeks of his life, when asked about his life, he didn't regret a thing: ''If I had to do it over again,'' he said, ''I wouldn't have changed a thing.''

    On December 26, 1989, reduced to a shell of his former robust self, Doug Harvey died of cirrhosis of the liver in Montreal General Hospital. He had stopped drinking three years before he passed away, but at that point it was too late. He had just celebrated his 65th birthday. If only Harvey had receive some help, perhaps he could of lived much longer. But, as Jean Beliveau pointed out, there is little that could of been done since Harvey didn't admit to needing help. Maurice Richard, a teammate and also a good friend of Harvey, said after Harvey's death: ''Everyone tried to put him on the right path, but there was nothing to be done.''

    Although his behaviour at time was eccentric and erratic, Harvey was a beloved character by both his family and his teammate. Fans will always remember Harvey not for his latter years, but rather as one of the greatest defencemen of all-time.

    Fun & Interesting Facts:

    - In 1946, Doug played with the Montreal Royals alongside his brother, Howard, who played goaltender. They won the league championship that year.
    - In the fall of 1947, Harvey declined an offer to play for the Boston Braves of the MLB, because the date interfere with the one of the Canadiens training camp
    - On October 16, 1947, Harvey started his career with the Canadiens in a 2-1 loss to the Rangers
    - In 1954, Harvey scored a Cup-losing own-goal when he tipped the puck with his glove, after a deflected shot by Tony Leswick of the Detroit Red Wings, past goalie Gerry McNeil
    - On November 29, 1956, Harvey almost killed New York Rangers Red Sullivan, when he ruptured his spleen with a vicious spear
    - For the 1957-58 season, Harvey was unanimously voted on the First All-Star team defence, a feat only achieve once before him, and four time since then
    - In late-1959, Andy Bathgate wrote a controversial article, mentioning Doug Harvey, Tom Johnson, Fern Flaman, Pierre Pilote, Ted Lindsay and teammate Lou Fontinato as spearing specialists: ''None of them seems to care that he'll be branded as a hockey killer.'' (Bathgate was fine by the NHL for writing the article)
    - In the 1961-62 season, Harvey became the only player to win a major individual playing award (James Norris Trophy) while coaching
    - In 1962, with the New York Rangers, Harvey was the highest paid player in the league, with a salary of 30 000$
    - With the Detroit Red Wings, Harvey wore the #5, as Gary Bergman played with the #2. It's the only time in his NHL career that Harvey wore a different number than his beloved #2
    - Harvey is the only player in the history of the league to win a major individual award in consecutive years with different teams
    - On October 1970, Harvey was unsuccessful to be elected to the Montreal city council
    - Harvey was unanimously elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1973. When invited to his own Hockey Hall of Fame Induction, the free spirited Harvey decided instead to go fishing
    - Harvey is said to have played a key role in luring the Howe family to play with the Houston Aeros
    - In 1984, fans of the Montreal Canadiens selected an all-time All-Star Team. Jacques Plante was chosen as goaltender, the forwards were Jean Beliveau, Dickie Moore and Maurice Richard while the blueliners selected were Larry Robinson and Doug Harvey
    - The government of Canada honoured Doug Harvey in 2000 with his image placed on a Canadian postage stamp
    - One of Harvey's favourite pastime was fishing. His fishing trip included the like of Maurice Richard, Toe Blake and Gerry McNeil to name a few


    - ''As a kid I played my hockey in Notre Dame de Grace Park, Doug’s home base. He was playing in the Forum by then but came out at least once a week, put on his skates, threw a puck on the ice and challenged all of us to get it off him. I will always remember how we scrambled around as he deked in and out of the ten or twelve of us laughing the whole time, as we never did get that damn puck away from him. - Kevin Hunter

    - ''I remember visiting him in the hospital and he was usually in good spirits. One time I was in the corridor and I heard laughter coming from his room. Inside, Bobby Orr and Don Cherry were there cheering up my dad.'' - Doug Harvey Jr.

    - Always modest about his ability, Harvey once said he couldn't rate himself as a player because: ''I've never seen myself play''.

    Signing &Trades:

    June 13, 1961: Traded to the New York Rangers by the Montreal Canadiens for Lou Fontinato (NHL)
    November 26, 1963: Signed as a free agent by the Quebec Aces (AHL)
    June 10, 1965: Signed as a free agent by Baltimore Clippers (AHL)
    December 23, 1966: Traded to the Providence Bruins for cash (AHL). He activated a contract clause that allowed him to become a free agent if traded by the Baltimore Clippers (AHL)
    January 6, 1967: Signed with the Detroit Red Wings, but except two games, played with the Pittsburgh Hornets (AHL)
    June 1, 1967: Signed as a free agent with the St-Louis Blues and named playing coach of the Kansas City Blues (CPHL)



    AHL: American Hockey League
    CPHL: Central Professional Hockey League
    MLB: Major League Baseball
    NHL: National Hockey League
    QJHL: Quebec Junior Hockey League
    QJMHL: Quebec Junior Major Hockey League
    WHA: World Hockey Association

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    Awards and Achievements:
    Stanley Cup Champion (1964)
    Hart Trophy Winner (1959)
    2 x First Team All-Star (1959, 1962)
    2 x Second Team All-Star (1958, 1963)
    8 x All-Star Games (1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964)

    Hart Voting – 1st(1959), 2nd(1958), 3rd(1957), 5th(1962), 8th(1956)

    Scoring Achievements:
    Points – 1st(1962), 2nd(1963), 3rd(1958), 3rd(1959), 3rd(1960), 4th(1957), 4th(1961), 4th(1964), 5th(1956), 17th(1968), 19th(1955), 19th(1965)
    Goals – 3rd(1959), 4th(1963), 5th(1958), 6th(1961), 6th(1962), 8th(1957), 9th(1960), 12th(1955), 13th(1956)
    Assists – 1st(1962), 1st(1964), 2nd(1956), 2nd(1958), 2nd(1959), 2nd(1960), 3rd(1957), 4th(1961), 4th(1963), 11th(1968), 14th(1965), 14th(1966)

    5 Year Peak (1959 to 1963)
    1st in Points and 2nd in Points per Game (Jean Beliveau)
    2nd in Goals and 5th in Goals per Game (Jean Beliveau, Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, Frank Mahovlich)
    1st in Assists and 2nd in Assists per Game (Jean Beliveau)

    10 Year Peak (1956 to 1965)
    2nd in Points and 3rd in Points per Game (Jean Beliveau and Gordie Howe)
    3rd in Goals and 8th in Goals per Game (Jean Beliveau, Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, Frank Mahovlich, Maurice Richard, Bernie Geoffrion, Camile Henry)
    1st in Assists and 1st in Assists Per Game

    Play-off Points – 7th(1966), 8th(1964)
    Play-off Goals – 1st(1966), 4th(1964), 5th(1958)

    Play-off Scoring Review:
    1956 – 2nd on team in Points, Goals, and Assists.
    1957 – 1st on team in Goals.
    1958 – 1st on team in Goals and Points. 2nd on team in Assists.
    1962 – 3rd on team in Assists.
    1964 – 2nd on team in Goals.
    1965 – 4th on team in Goals.
    1966 – 1st on team in Goals.

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