TheDevilMadeMe
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Jean was the best player and Harvey was the most valuable.
That actually makes a lot of sense
Jean was the best player and Harvey was the most valuable.
Edmonton's strategy in the regular season was based on the fact that they were talented enough to coast through the regular season having fun and conserving energy, playing at a time when 16 of 21 teams made the playoffs.
In big games, their stars like Coffey actually did play acceptable defense. Of course, the Norris is based on regular season alone, so....
Let's assume Bourque wins ALL those Norris. 8 straight Norris from 86-87 to 93-94. Then obviously we have to give the eighth Norris to Harvey too for missing some time. So they both have 8 straight Norris.
So Norris counting is perhaps not the best way to judge their level relative to each other.
Bourque would still have the longevity advantage. Harvey the playoff advantage. And people who saw both preferred Harvey. And Harvey was probably better at playing both sides (LD and RD), not only year by year but in games. And he controlled the game moreso than Bourque - who himself controlled it a lot.
I find it hard not to give the edge to Harvey.
I mean even @seventieslord, a guy known to value longevity a great deal, ranks Harvey over Bourque. Not using this as an argument but just to show that Harvey over Bourque is a widespread belief and I'm not seeing any convincing argument that it should be abandoned.
I'm teaching a few elite 2nd year middle school students at my academy how to deliver the most famous speech of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr. , Steve Jobs, Malala, and BTS member R.M. (at the U.N. earlier this year) for their end-of-this-month contest at the county office (they have no idea which one of the 5 speeches they will have to give), the top 1 to 4 students from each school in the rural region will get chosen to go to America (LA and NY for a 2-week tour at least, some say a month).
I AM SWAMPED this week and next week, accordingly.
If it wasn't for a 4g local Samsung smartphone, i'd be awol until September.
PLEASE: NOTHING next weekend... it's the last full weekend of the summer and i'm gonna be, well, all over.
Lol. I didn't choose the speeches. It's a public schools' thing.
That said, **** Gretzky. The five speeches are pretty bang on in terms of historical relevance (the BTS one at the UN is arguable, not clearly less than any of Gretzky's speeches, all things considered.
I'd be down.Any interest in doing a fantasy hockey league for ATDers?
Sure.Any interest in doing a fantasy hockey league for ATDers?
Cool thing happened today. I was at a school function and a guy came up to me, not exactly a rando, but not my friend. our daughters hang out though so we know eachother at least that well. He doesn't know my interests and hobbies, for example.
He notices my shirt. "Sydney Millionaires, who are they?" I tell him it's a hockey team. He asks if it means Australia or Nova Scotia. I confirm it was the latter. He asks me where I got it, I tell him it was sitting on the rack at Value Village a couple of years ago in perfect condition, and I couldn't pass it up, and how it made no sense that this shirt even exists because it's the logo of some team from 100 years ago that no one's ever heard of.
He says, "yeah, there have been a lot of different teams back then. I guess that there was a Montreal Maroons, and even Saskatoon had a team in the NHL." I corrected him, saying it wasn't the NHL, and he said, "well, no, but an equally high level". Now my interest is piqued, because for him to know of the WCHL and that it was a good league is kinda impressive.
He says, "I really like the old guys. There's a guy named..." and I'm thinking he's gonna name some player from the 70s or even the O6 era, to show off his old-timey cred. He completes the sentence, "Newsy Lalonde. Ever hear of that guy? I was looking at his stats, he was really dominant too, like as dominant as Gretzky!" I had to correct him on that of course. And then I went into Cyclone Taylor, Frank Nighbor, my history with hfboards and THN, etc, and as stunned as he was to find out how into hockey I was, I was even more shocked to talk to someone in real life, who knows who Newsy Lalonde is. By no means was he an expert, and he really didn't claim to be, but if you took 1000 random Regina citizens including him and I, he'd probably know his hockey history better than 998 of them.
What I find amazing is that there's probably a lot of guys like that around—but somehow they never found their way on this forum—at least not as regulars. He went as far as checking Newsy Lalonde's stats online; the step to finding the HOH section on hfboards was not huge.
Yeah, exactly. He took notes of the guys I said to look up, and when he said there's never that much information on the old guys on the internet, I said to include the player's name as well as hfboards when googling.