ATD 2021 Draft Thread III

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ALL-TIME DRAFT 2021!

The draft will last 24 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach, and 3 extra picks.

1) The clock starts Monday, January 18th at 0800 AM (EST).

2). Time Limits.

24 hour clock for round 1
then 12 hour clock for round 2
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-24

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). TRADING IS ALLOWED

Trading Rules:
  • Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. Unless there is vocal displeasure with a deal, generally speaking we pass trades that get an OK from 3 veteran members.
  • Each team may make up to FIVE trades.
  • Players CAN be traded during the draft as part of deal through the add/drop period. NO TRADING OF PLAYERS AFTER ADD/DROPS.
  • No more than 4 assets per team may be traded at a time.
  • A submitted trade DOES NOT count towards one of your 5 trades unless it is vetoed and the reworked deal gets vetoed as well.
  • Swapping all positions before the draft doesn't count as a "trade" for the purposes of the above rules.
  • Trading while on the clock is allowed. However please try and not make a habit out of using the entirety of said clock round after round looking for a last minute deal specifically.
4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams.

5). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

6). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

7). PM the next GM after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

GM's:

@ImporterExporter
@ResilientBeast
@TheDevilMadeMe
@Hawkey Town 18
@BenchBrawl
@Dirt 101
@Dreakmur
@rmartin65
@Claude The Fraud
@Habsfan18
@ChiTownPhilly
@Leaf Lander
@tinyzombies
@Voight
@Selfish Man
@tabness
@overpass
@nabby12
@Johnny Engine
@Professor What
@GlitchMarner
@tony d
@BraveCanadian
@MadArcand

Clock Deductions:

Voight - 1 hour
BraveCanadian - 1 hour
tabness - 1 hour
GlitchMarner - 1 hour
Claude the Fraud - 2 hour
MadArcand - 1 hour

TRADES:

#13 and #205 pick to Selfish Man with #18 and #162 to nabby12
#28 and #117 pick to ProfessorWhat with #40 and #88 to ResilientBeast
#31, #66, and #114 to ChiTownPhilly with #39, #58, and #106 to SelfishMan
#36, and #132 pick to tabness with #68 and #77 to nabby12
#60, #181, #421, #444 to ResilientBeast with #69, #165, #357, and #556 to Dirt101
#88 and #172 to rmartin12 with #99 and #147 to ResilientBeast
#107 and #155 to GlitchMarner with #120 and #121 to BenchBrawl
#97, #145, and #193 to tinyzombies with #104, #137, and #185 to ImporterExporter
#96, #137 to ProfessorWhat with #105 and #117 to ImporterExporter
#109, #301, #397, #564 to Dirt101 with #133, #229, #348 and #469 to nabby12
#121, #182, #251 to ProfessorWhat with #137, #153, and #232 to BenchBrawl
#143, #239, #287 to SelfishMan with #175, #205, and #223 to Dreakmur
#149, #188, #236, #284 to TheDevilMadeMe with #151, #186, #234 and #282 to HawkeyTown18
#171, #262, and #406 to ImporterExporter with #185, #241, and #385 to JohnnyEngine
#180 and #372 to HawkeyTown18 with #234 and #245 to nabby12
#204, #252, #325, #517 to JohnnyEngine with #214, #241, #315, and #490 to Dirt101
#199. #236, #386 to Johnny Engine with #204, #219, #385 to TheDevilMadeMe
#221, #404, and Michel Goulet to GlitchMarner with #264, #361, and John LeClair, LW to tabness
#238, and #339 to Habsfan18 with #255 and #303 to rmartin65
Claude Giroux to BenchBrawl with Claude Provost to Dreakmur
#279, #298, #346 to ImporterExporter with #288, #289, and #346 to ChiTownPhilly
#299, #326, and #422 to tabness with #365, #461, and Dave Taylor to BenchBrawl
#305, #401 to Dirt101 with #492 and Bob Goldham to overpass
#326 and #452 to rmartin with #334 and #435 to tabness
#334 and #413 to TheDevilMadeMe with #343 and #391 to tabness
#337 and #384 to BenchBrawl with #347 and #365 to ImporterExporter


TRADE COUNTER:

Selfish Man = 3
nabby12 = 4
ProfessorWhat = 3
ResilientBeast = 3
ChiTownPhilly = 2
tabness = 5
Dirt101 = 4
rmartin12 = 3
BenchBrawl = 5
GlitchMarner = 2
ImporterExporter = 5
tinyzombies = 1
Dreakmur = 2
HawkeyTown = 2
TheDevilMadeMe = 3
JohnnyEngine = 3
Habsfan18 = 1
overpass = 1


PICKS:


ROUND 1:

1. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Bobby Orr, D
2. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Wayne Gretzky, C
3. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Gordie Howe, RW
4. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Mario Lemieux, C
5. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Doug Harvey, D
6. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ray Bourque, D
7. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Jean Beliveau, C
8. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
9. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Maurice Richard, RW
10. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Denis Potvin, D
11. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bobby Hull, LW
12. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Eddie Shore, D
13. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Sidney Crosby, C
14. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bryan Trottier, C
15. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Mark Messier, C/LW
16. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Alex Ovechkin, LW/RW
17. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Red Kelly, D/C
18. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Howie Morenz, C
19. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Viacheslav Fetisov, D
20. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Jaromir Jagr, RW
21. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Patrick Roy, G
22. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Dominik Hasek, G
23. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Larry Robinson, D
24. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Stan Mikita, C

ROUND 2:

25. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Guy Lafleur, RW
26. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Bobby Clarke, C
27. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Chris Chelios, D
28. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Ted Lindsay, LW
29. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Paul Coffey, D
30. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Steve Yzerman, C
31. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Frank Nighbor, C
32. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Mike Bossy, RW
33. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Brad Park, D
34. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - King Clancy, D
35. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Al MacInnis, D
36. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Phil Esposito, C
37. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Bill Cook, RW
38. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Sprague Cleghorn, D
39. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Joe Sakic, C
40. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
41. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Sergei Makarov, RW
42. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Pierre Pilote, D
43. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
44. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Frank Boucher, C
45. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Chris Pronger, D
46. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Tim Horton, D
47. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Jacques Plante, G
48. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Scott Stevens, D

ROUND 3:

49. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Earl Seibert, D
50. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Charlie Conacher, RW
51. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Zdeno Chara, D
52. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Brian Leetch, D
53. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Henri Richard, C
54. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Andy Bathgate, RW
55. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
56. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Peter Forsberg, C
57, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Bill Gadsby, D
58. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Borje Salming, D
59. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Milt Schmidt, C
60. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Newsy Lalonde, C
61. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Aurele Joliat, LW
62. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jari Kurri, RW
63. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Anatoli Firsov, LW
64. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Syl Apps Sr, C
65. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Dickie Moore, LW
66. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Cy Denneny, LW
67. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Rod Langway, D
68. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Jack Stewart, D
69. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Glenn Hall, G
70. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Evgeni Malkin, C
71. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Martin Brodeur, G
72. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Mark Howe, D

ROUND 4:

73. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Marcel Dionne, C
74. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Teemu Selanne, RW
75. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Eddie Gerard, D
76. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Dit Clapper, D/RW
77. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Terry Sawchuk, G
78. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Vladislav Tretiak, G
79. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Boris Mikhailov, RW
80. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Sergei Fedorov, C
81. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Ken Dryden, G
82. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Frank Brimsek, G
83. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
84. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Brett Hull, RW
85. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Ted Kennedy, C
86. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Patrick Kane, RW
87. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Shea Weber, D
88. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Toe Blake, LW
89. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Frank Mahovlich, LW
90. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Sid Abel, C/LW
91. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Duncan Keith, D
92. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jarome Iginla, RW
93. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Martin St Louis, RW
94. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Elmer Lach, C
95. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Scott Niedermayer, D
96. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Valeri Vasiliev. D

ROUND 5:

97. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Erik Karlsson, D
98. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Drew Doughty, D
99. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Busher Jackson, LW
100. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Doug Bentley, LW/C
101. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Quackenbush, D
102. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Doug Gilmour, C
103. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Serge Savard, D
104. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Joe Malone, C/LW
105. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Johnny Bucyk, LW
106. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Guy Lapointe, D
107. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Victor Hedman, D
108. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Marcel Pronovost, D
109. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Max Bentley, C
110. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - JC Tremblay, D
111. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Hod Stuart, D
112. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bryan Hextall Sr, RW
113. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Alexei Kasatonov, D
114. Ted2019 - Philadelphia Phantoms - Hooley Smith, C/RW
115. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Pavel Bure, RW
116. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Luc Robitaille, LW
117. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Jacques Laperriere, D
118. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Georges Boucher, D
119. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Ivan Johnson, D
120. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Norm Ullman, C

ROUND 6:

121. ProfessorWhat - Gallifrey Tardis - Ron Francis, C
122. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Syd Howe, LW/C
123. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Brendan Shanahan, LW
124. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
125. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Larry Murphy, D
126. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Bert Olmstead, LW
127. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Rob Blake, D
128. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Marian Hossa, RW
129. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D
130. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Dave Keon, C
131. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gary Suter, D
132. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Eric Lindros, C
133. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Lionel Conacher, D
134. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Art Coulter, D
135. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Henrik Zetterberg, LW/C
136. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Sergei Zubov, D
137. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Babe Siebert, D/LW
138. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Georges Vezina, G
139. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Pavel Datsyuk, C
140. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Charlie Gardiner, G
141. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Peter Stastny, C
142. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Clint Benedict, G
143. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Nels Stewart, C/LW
144. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Vladimir Martinec, RW

ROUND 7:

145. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Tom Johnson, D
146. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Tommy Phillips, LW
147. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
148. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Turk Broda, G
149. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
150. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Sweeney Schriner, LW
151. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Paul Kariya, LW
152. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Joe Thornton, C
153, BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Harry Cameron, D
154. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Jan Suchy, D
155. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Ed Belfour, G
156. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Roy Conacher, LW
157. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Bill Cowley, C
158. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Billy Smith, G
159. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Mark Recchi, RW
160. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Adam Oates, C
161. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Bill Durnan, G
162. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Vladimir Krutov, LW
163. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Émile Bouchard, D
164. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Doug Wilson, D
165. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Patrik Elias, LW
166. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Frank Foyston, F
167. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Carl Brewer, D
168. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - John Leclair, LW (traded to tabness)

ROUND 8:

169. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Theo Fleury, RW
170. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Mike Modano - C
171. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
172. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Steven Stamkos, C
173. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Michel Goulet, LW (traded to GlitchMarner)
174. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Alexander Yakushev, LW
175. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Marty Barry, C
176. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Jonathan Toews, C
177. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Sylvio Mantha, D
178. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Allan Stanley, D
179. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Harry Howell, D
180. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Frantisek Pospisil, D
181. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Ken Reardon, D
182. ProfessorWhat - Gallifrey Tardis - Gilbert Perreault, C
183. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Bernie Parent, G
184. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Reg Noble, LW/C
185. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Lester Patrick, D
186. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jamie Benn, LW
187. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Eric Desjardins, D
188. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Anze Kopitar, C
189. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Lanny McDonald, RW
190. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Brent Burns, D
191. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Brad Marchand, LW
192. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Johnny Bower, G

ROUND 9:

193. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
194. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Pat Stapleton, D
195. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Dany Heatley, W
196. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Keith Tkachuk, LW
197. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Cecil Dillon, RW
198. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Nikita Kucherov, RW
199. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Rick Middleton, RW
200. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Grant Fuhr, G
201, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Tony Esposito, G
202. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Patrice Bergeron, C
203. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Claude Provost, RW (traded to Dreakmur)
204. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Fern Flaman, D
205. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Bill White, D
206. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jimmy Thomson, D
207. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Didier Pitre, RW/D
208. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Paul Thompson, LW
209. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Sergei Gonchar, D
210. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Herb Gardiner, D
211. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Vladimir Petrov, C
212. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Steve Larmer, RW
213. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Mickey MacKay, F
214. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Rod Gilbert, RW
215. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Gordie Drillon, RW
216. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Ryan Suter, D

ROUND 10:

217. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Teppo Numminen, D
218. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Babe Pratt, D
219. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Toe Blake, coach
220. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Jack Crawford, D
221. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Ilya Kovalchuk, W
222. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Cam Neely, RW
223. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Claude Giroux, C/LW (traded to BenchBrawl)
224. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Scotty Bowman, coach
225. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Al Arbour, coach
226. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Baldy Northcott, LW
227. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Darryl Sittler, C
228. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Lionel Hitchman, D
229. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Red Horner, D
230. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Blake Wheeler, RW
231. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Alexander Ragulin, D
232. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Woody Dumart, LW
233. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Jean Ratelle, C
234. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Frank Fredrickson, C
235. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Brad McCrimmon, D
236. Johnny Engine- Verafin Huskies - Babe Dye, RW
237. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Bob Gainey, LW
238. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Alex Pietrangelo, D
239. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Herbie Lewis, LW
240. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Jacques Lemaire, C

ROUND 11:

241. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
242. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Lester Patrick, coach
243. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Harvey Pulford, D
244. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Roman Josi, D
245. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Fred Shero, coach
246. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Jere Lehtinen, LW/RW
247. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Art Ross, D
248. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Guy Carbonneau, C
249, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Helmuts Balderis, RW
250. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Václav Nedomanský, C/RW
251. ProfessorWhat - Gallifrey Tardis - Derian Hatcher, D
252. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Rod Brind'amour, C/LW
253. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - George Hay, LW
254. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - George Armstrong, RW
255. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Bob Pulford, LW/C
256. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Hap Day, D
257. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Denis Savard, C
258. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Neil Colville, C/D
259. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Dan Boyle, D
260. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Ziggy Palffy, RW
261. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Jack Walker, F
262. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Glenn Anderson, RW
263. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Joel Quennville, coach
264. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Glen Sather, coach

ROUND 12:

265. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Mats Sundin, C
266. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Bill Barber, LW
267. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Ryan Getzlaf, C
268. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Anatoli Tarasov, Coach
269. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Dave Taylor, RW (traded to BenchBrawl)
270. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Mike Peca, C
271. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Punch Broadbent, RW
272. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Igor Larionov, C
273. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Alf Smith, RW
274. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Hap Day, coach
275. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gus Mortson, D
276. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Bill Mosienko, RW
277. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Mike Grant, D
278. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Jeremy Roenick, C
279. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Dale Hawerchuk, C
280. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Dick Irvin, coach
281. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Markus Naslund, LW
282. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Corey Perry, RW
283. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Craig Ramsay, LW
284. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Russell Bowie, C
285. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Brian Rafalski, D
286. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Joe Hall, D
287. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Roy Worters, G
288. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Henrik Sedin, C

ROUND 13:

289. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Daniel Sedin, LW
290. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Cooney Weiland, C
291. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Tommy Ivan, coach
292. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Nicklas Backstrom, C
293. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Duke Keats, C
294. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ryan Kesler, C/RW
295. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Ed Westfall, RW/D
296. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Moose Vasko, D
297, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Adam Foote, D
298. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Pete Green, coach
299. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Ralph Backstrom, C

300. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Cy Wentworth, D
301. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Bob Goldham, D (traded to overpass)
302. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brian Propp, LW
303. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Larry Aurie, RW
304. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Don Luce, C
305. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Jiri Holik, LW
306. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Jim Schoenfeld, D
307. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Phil Housley, D
308. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Esa Tikkanen, LW
309. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Dean Prentice, LW
310. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Johnny Gottselig, LW
311. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Jimmy Ward, RW
312. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Joe Mullen, RW

ROUND 14:

313. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Kimmo Timonen, D
314. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Art Duncan, D
315. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Alexander Mogilny, RW
316. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Gordon Roberts, LW
317. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Don Marshall, LW/C
318. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Vincent Damphousse, LW/C
319. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Ott Heller, D
320. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Sergei Kapustin, LW
321. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - John Tavares, C
322. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
323. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Steve Shutt, LW
324. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Bernie Morris, RW/C
325. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Kris Letang, D
326. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Tony Leswick, LW/RW
327. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Claude Lemieux, RW
328. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Peter Bondra, RW
329. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Mike Gartner, RW
330. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Marty Pavelich, LW
331. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Doug Mohns, D/LW
332. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Joe Simpson, D
333. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Joel Otto, C
334. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Smokey Harris, LW/RW
335. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Henrik Lundqvist, G
336. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Milan Novy, C

ROUND 15:

337. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - George Hainsworth, G
338. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Bobby Bauer, RW
339. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Ace Bailey, RW
340. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Dirk Graham RW
341. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Kevin Lowe, D
342. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Jiri Holecek, G
343. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Ted Green, D
344. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Frank Finnigan, RW
345, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Tiny Thompson, G
346. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Flash Hollett, D/F
347. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Bun Cook, LW
348. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Jim Neilson, D
349. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons - Red Dutton, D
350. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Joe Klukay, W
351. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Wayne Cashman, W
352. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Andrei Markov, D
353. overpass - Ottawa Senators - John Carlson, D
354. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Don Marcotte, LW/C
355. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Carey Price, G
356. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Roberto Luongo, G
357. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Pat Lafontaine, C
358. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Blair Russell, F
359. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Joe Primeau, C
360. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Gary Roberts, LW

ROUND 16:

361. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Ulf Samuelsson, D
362. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Lloyd Cook, D
363. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Joe Pavelski, F
364. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Frank Patrick, D
365. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Nick Metz, LW/C
366. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - John Tonelli, LW
367. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Cecil Hart, Coach
368. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Pavol Demitra, LW/C
369. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bobby Rousseau, RW
370. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Kevin Hatcher, D
371. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bob Nevin, RW
372. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Zach Parise, LW
373. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Rob Ramage, D
374. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Barry Trotz, Coach
375. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Tommy Gorman, Coach
376. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Connor McDavid, C
377. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Leo Boivin, D
378. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Clark Gillies, LW
379. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Bob Baun, D
380. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Eric Nesterenko, RW
381. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Phil Kessel, RW
382. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Walt Tkaczuk, C
383. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - PK Subban, D
384. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Ken Mosdell, C

ROUND 17:

385. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Tony Amonte, RW
386. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Artemi Panarin, LW
387. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Vic Stasiuk, W
388. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Punch Imlach, coach
389. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Edgar Laprade, C
390. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C
391. tabness - Florida Sunbursts - Bernie Nicholls, C
392. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights - Ken Hodge, RW
393, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis - Jimmy Watson, D
394. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms - Terry Harper, D
395. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Jerry Toppazzini, RW
396. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Bobby Holik, C/LW
397. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Doug Jarvis, C
398. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Steve Kasper, C
399. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars - Shane Doan, W
400. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Kevin Stevens, LW
401. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals - Pat Egan, D
402. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Butch Goring, C
403. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada - Bob Bourne, F
404. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Rick Martin, LW
405. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Pit Lepine, C
406. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Rusty Crawford, LW/D
407. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Owen Nolan, RW
408. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Wade Redden, D

ROUND 18:

409. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Marian Gaborik, RW
410. tony d - Cleveland Spiders - Charlie Simmer, LW
411. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies - Ken Hitchcock, Coach
412. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes - Tommy Smith, C/LW
413. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils - Phil Watson, C
414. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
415. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
416. overpass - Ottawa Senators
417. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
418. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
419. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
420. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
421. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
422. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
423. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
424. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
425. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
426. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
427. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
428. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
429. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
430. rmartin65 - New York Americans
431. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
432. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 19:

433. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
434. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
435. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
436. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
437. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
438. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
439. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
440. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
441, Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
442. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
443. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
444. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
445. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
446. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
447. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
448. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
449. overpass - Ottawa Senators
450. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
451. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
452. rmartin65 - New York Americans
453. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
454. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
455. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
456. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 20:

457. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
458. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
459. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
460. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
461. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
462. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
463. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
464. overpass - Ottawa Senators
465. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
466. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
467. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
468. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
469. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
470. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
471. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
472. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
473. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
474. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
475. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
476. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
477. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
478. rmartin65 - New York Americans
479. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
480. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 21:

481. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
482. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
483. rmartin65 - New York Americans
484. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
485. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
486. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
487. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
488. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
489. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
490. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
491. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
492. overpass - Ottawa Senators
493. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
494. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
495. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
496. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
497. overpass - Ottawa Senators
498. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
499. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
500. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
501. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
502. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
503. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
504. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 22:

505. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
506. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
507. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
508. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
509. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
510. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
511. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
512. overpass - Ottawa Senators
513. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
514. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
515. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
516. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
517. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
518. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
519. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
520. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
521. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
522. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
523. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
524. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
525. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
526. rmartin65 - New York Americans
527. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
528. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC

ROUND 23:

529. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
530. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
531. rmartin65 - New York Americans
532. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
533. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
534. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
535. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
536. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
537. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
538. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
539. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
540. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
541. nabby12 - Montreal Maroons
542. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
543. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
544. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
545. overpass - Ottawa Senators
546. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
547. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
548. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
549. ResilientBeast - Arizona Coyotes
550. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
551. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
552. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers

ROUND 24:

553. GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers
554. tony d - Cleveland Spiders
555. Johnny Engine - Verafin Huskies
556. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
557. tabness - Florida Sunbursts
558. Claude The Fraud - Team Canada
559. Selfish Man - Portland Penguins
560. overpass - Ottawa Senators
561. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers
562. Habsfan18 - Minnesota North Stars
563. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
564. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
565. Dirt101 - Elmira Jackals
566. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens
567. ChiTownPhilly - Philadelphia Phantoms
568. Professor What - Gallifrey Tardis
569. tinyzombies - Vegas Knights
570. TheDevilMadeMe - NJ Swamp Devils
571. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
572. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
573. Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays
574. rmartin65 - New York Americans
575. Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers
576. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC
 
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Was thinking about Gilbert with Espo, went with Larmer since I can do a Goulet/Larmer connection on the third line
 

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Please look at my post, 3 of Mackay's best 4 seasons are at wing

1922-23, 1923-24 and 1924-25

1914-15 he was a center while Taylor played rover.

Edit: Nighbor also played wing during his one season in Vancouver and was noted for his poke check and defence even then. I don't think MacKay will have any issues defending but lining up at RW

Yeah a lot of the listings just have "Forward" for a bunch of them.

Again he's 100% a winger these years, which wing specifically is a smidge hazy. He's routinely listed under Winger opposite noted RWs and his teammate is a noted LWer. The Millionaires/Maroons deployed him at both wings and defence (due to injury to someone else) somewhat frequently

It turns out all of his significant seasons besides 1915 (where he was a center) were at wing the entire time. The seasons in my self quote comprise 3 of his best 4 offensive seasons.
 

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If I didn't already have Stapleton, I might have taken Suter with my last pick. His Norris record is impressive, and I think it seriously under-rates him.

I'm always surprised by the amount of people who are in awe of Ryan Suter. I see him as a player with #2 defenseman attributes that became too good within the parameters of this role, and then took up the cap space of a #1. What does he bring to the table exactly, that I should want him as my #1D if I'm a GM? A big minute-eater that lacks any game-breaking talent. He doesn't control the game, he's not remarkable at transition, AFAIK he's not a feared physical player, he doesn't have a booming shot.

But since everyone loves him, I keep an open mind. Maybe I just don't see what I'm supposed to see.

Though for a generic defensive #4D in the ATD he's fine here.
 

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I'm always surprised by the amount of people who are in awe of Ryan Suter. I see him as a player with #2 defenseman attributes that became too good within the parameters of this role, and then took up the cap space of a #1. What does he bring to the table exactly, that I should want him as my #1D if I'm a GM? A big minute-eater that lacks any game-breaking talent. He doesn't control the game, he's not remarkable at transition, AFAIK he's not a feared physical player, he doesn't have a booming shot.

But since everyone loves him, I keep an open mind. Maybe I just don't see what I'm supposed to see.

Though for a generic defensive #4D in the ATD he's fine here.

You missed the best part of his game - defense. He’s been one of the elite defenders for the last dozen years.
 

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You missed the best part of his game - defense. He’s been one of the elite defenders for the last dozen years.

I guess I'd love to see it translate to something, but he's been wasting his career on dead-end franchises.
 

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I guess I'd love to see it translate to something, but he's been wasting his career on dead-end franchises.

Same can be said for a lot of guys. At the end of the day, you can only evaluate the player. It has changed the last two years, but I think prime Suter was better than prime Weber.
 

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Same can be said for a lot of guys. At the end of the day, you can only evaluate the player. It has changed the last two years, but I think prime Suter was better than prime Weber.

I would never pick a Suter over a Weber.
 

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Gotta side with Weber in that comparison.

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That graphic is pretty painful to read, but so far it looks better for Suter than Weber (not as good at scoring goals, but more disciplined, far better at tilting the number of expected goals, and fairly even in CF%).
However, I'm pretty sure Dreakmur was referring to the two at their peaks in Nashville and this surveys most of their careers...I think.
 

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That graphic is pretty painful to read, but so far it looks better for Suter than Weber (not as good at scoring goals, but more disciplined, far better at tilting the number of expected goals, and fairly even in CF%).
However, I'm pretty sure Dreakmur was referring to the two at their peaks in Nashville and this surveys most of their careers...I think.

Weber has worse zone starts and better gf% despite playing on worse teams. And far better PP numbers, tho Suter is no slouch.
 

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Weber has worse zone starts and better gf% despite playing on worse teams. And far better PP numbers, tho Suter is no slouch.
He has better GF% by 0.03%, and starts less than 4% more of his shift in the defensive zone, which is neither "better" - hockey is played on both sides of the ice - nor illustrative of the majority of a player's shifts that happen on the fly. And I would characterize both of their teams as mediocre during the stretch they played apart. And again, pretty sure Dreak holds that opinion about their peaks and that graph isn't about that.
 
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He has better GF% by 0.03%, and starts less than 4% more of his shift in the defensive zone, which is neither "better" - hockey is played on both sides of the ice - nor illustrative of the majority of a player's shifts that happen on the fly. And I would characterize both of their teams as mediocre during the stretch they played apart. And again, pretty sure Dreak holds that opinion about their peaks and that graph isn't about that.

Last three seasons of the chart are similarly mediocre, so that's kind of a wash- their peaks are basically captured there for these two, but you are right, that would be a way better chart.

Weber is a monster zone player and defends entries exceedingly well. I'm surprised at his low strip numbers but that's probably because teams stay away from his side (I saw the stats on that once from Sportlogiq). You can count the number of board battles he loses on one hand. But he needs help with his first pass and doesn't carry. Suter also has a rep for banging it off the glass tho, no? Suter's low turnover numbers are extremely impressive unless derived from dumps, unless again it's a poor system that doesn't suit the players. It's apples and oranges, they both need the right partner.

I do remember the dominant performance by Suter against Team Canada in 2010 where he was on the ice most of the game and shut them down with not much help.
 
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That graphic is pretty painful to read, but so far it looks better for Suter than Weber (not as good at scoring goals, but more disciplined, far better at tilting the number of expected goals, and fairly even in CF%).
However, I'm pretty sure Dreakmur was referring to the two at their peaks in Nashville and this surveys most of their careers...I think.

I was referring to Suter’s last 3 years in Nashville, where he played more than Weber.
 

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Nobody else stands out for my team's needs, so I'll go ahead and be the first to pick a coach.

Toe Blake, Coach

Knows a thing or two about winning with Jean Beliveau.

What I like most about Blake as a coach is that he was a rare NHL coach who could win coaching both firewagon hockey (1950s) or defensive hockey (1960s)
 

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All the possible best defenseman available right now feel like they could go in any order, so I'll the RH shot.

I'm going to pair Reardon with a contemporary of his and select Jack Crawford, D

With one of the weaker (talent wise) top pairings in the draft it felt crucial to get a solid steady second pairing who can play some tough minutes.

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