ATD 2020 Signup and Discussion

[Theokritos]

One of the main complaints in the last years was that the playoffs were too stretched out and there was little participation. There were 4 to 5 rounds in the playoffs in those years.

4 rounds mean 8 teams make the playoffs.

5 rounds mean that 16 teams make it. (The proposal by @Namba 17 in his last post would be an example.) Could be stretched out to 24 teams if division winners get a bye in the first round. (Edit: As proposed by @The Macho Man in his last post.)

I don't think making the playoffs longer than in the last years would be very tempting, despite of the higher number of participants.

 

[Theokritos]

You're right. So 12 from each conference with division winners getting a bye gets us two rounds of 8, then 4, then 2, then a championship right?

Yes, indeed.

 

[The Macho King]

One of the main complaints in the last years was that the playoffs were too stretched out and there was little participation. There were 4 to 5 rounds in the playoffs in those years.

4 rounds mean 8 teams make the playoffs.

5 rounds mean that 16 teams make it. (The proposal by @Namba 17 in his last post would be an example.) Could be stretched out to 24 teams if division winners get a bye in the first round. (Edit: As proposed by @The Macho Man in his last post.)

I don't think making the playoffs longer than in the last years would be very tempting, despite of the higher number of participants.

I mean - 16 teams might be the sweet spot. Also despite having 40 teams we do only have 25 gms.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'm indifferent to the playoff format. If forced to choose, I'd rather fewer teams in the playoffs. If only the divisional winners made it, we would still have 3 rounds, which is a lot.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Er,... i said i feel like a kid in a candy store,...

But looking at 2nd, 3rd and 4th round positions... yikes!

I feel like i barely have two nickels to rub together.

Same

 

[The Macho King]

I'm indifferent to the playoff format. If forced to choose, I'd rather fewer teams in the playoffs. If only the divisional winners made it, we would still have 3 rounds, which is a lot.

I dont have a ton of skin ever. My pride would be hurt by never making the playoffs in a main ATD but I would survive.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I'm not going to read this whole thread right now. Is this still an option?

I have still never picked between 5th and 10th ever.

Sorry, BB mentioned that you hadn't and I was hoping you were around while tagging. Just wanted to make my swaps and get to planning

 

[BenchBrawl]

I dont have a ton of skin ever. My pride would be hurt by never making the playoffs in a main ATD but I would survive.

You lost your pride the day you changed your Macho Man avatar for this atrocity.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Fewer teams in the playoffs is a good thing.

I completely agree with Theo regarding the post draft process being stretched out.

I'd like to see a more condensed playoff format.

 

[The Macho King]

You lost your pride the day you changed your Macho Man avatar for this atrocity.

Lol shit dude we had just got swept I had to do something. I'll fix it damn.

 

[VanIslander]

4 rounds mean 8 teams make the playoffs.

5 rounds mean that 16 teams make it.

Nope.

4 rounds means 16 make it.
5 rounds means 32 make it.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I think top 2 from each division is probably fine? So 16

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I think a 4 round 16 team playoff should be the absolute minimum, with 2 from each division making the playoffs.

Although I would also be fine with one more round and 4 from each division.

I think 6 rounds with every team making it is too much.

 

[ResilientBeast]

The only thing is, with so many divisions should we devise a wild card?

There's a chance the 3 seed in one division could be at least a 2 seed somewhere else

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

We could have 5 rounds but with less series so there isn’t an overwhelming number of series threads to read/vote on. What about this?...

1st round the division winners get byes and there are 8 play-in series where the 2nd seed of division A plays the 3rd seed of division B.

2nd round is another 8 series round where the division winners face the 1st round winners.
Would have to decide if we want the Division A winner to face the winner of Division B 2 vs. Division A 3 -or- the winner of Division A 2 vs. Division B 3.

 

[BenchBrawl]

My thinking is that, if you're not Top 2 in your division, do you realistically have a shot at the title?

Maybe, maybe in a super division of death this could happen (the Robson from ATD2017 comes to mind immediately), but in general a real contender will finish Top 2 out of 5.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I think my preference is just for only 16 to make it. Since there’s so much on the line maybe make a thread where each GM can make a case for his team before regular season voting.

 

[VanIslander]

Why rob the pleasure of winning a division?

A semifinal and final round for each division gives significance to an accomplishment.

8 division winners then are left for conference semifinal and final rounds. Then the championship series.

Simple and meaningful.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Something maybe like this for each side?

Have the first round be a matchup between two teams that are top 2 in their division, but with the lowest point totals, and the two teams that did not finish in the top 2 with the highest voting point totals

 

[ResilientBeast]

But if the voting margin is super slim, it's a real **** you because you got dropped in a tough division

 

[ResilientBeast]

Or this, the top 2 overall seeds in the conference get a bye, seed the "wildcards" as the lowest two seeds.

 

[VanIslander]

The World Cup of soccer keeps it simple:

Round of 32.
Round of 16.
Round of 8.
Semifinal.
Final.

 

[ResilientBeast]

The World Cup of soccer keeps it simple:

Round of 32.
Round of 16.
Round of 8.
Semifinal.
Final.

This is slightly different than the world cup lol

If our teams were actually playing I'd agree simple round of 16.

But looking at the divisions there are some divisions were a good gm likely building a good team will get screwed

 

[ResilientBeast]

I think adding the two best non-playoff teams and giving the top 2 seeds of each conference a bye is a nice reward for building the overall best name

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I think a 4 round 16 team playoff should be the absolute minimum, with 2 from each division making the playoffs.

Although I would also be fine with one more round and 4 from each division.

I think 6 rounds with every team making it is too much.

I honestly think 4 teams per division making it is best. It doesn't happen often, but once in awhile 3 of the best teams are in the same division.

I DEFINITELY think at least 2 teams per division need to make it.