jarek
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Seems like discussion will be ongoing from the 10th thread, so continue posting here since that thread should be locked. seventies, feel free to delete this if you think it's unnecessary.
Am I the only GM who just finds this hilarious?
I find it funny how this went unnoticed for such a long time, I don't know if administrators have access to posters Internet Service Provider addresses. If they do, they must've missed it totally. Or VanI must have used 4 different unsuspicious IP addresses.
The sad thing is, that the former commissioner of the ATD had rigged the game from the start of ATD12. I know he explained he went BPA for all of ZM's picks, which means there was no real purpose or chemistry on any of his teams. But the fact that he controlled four different teams and accounts is a real smack in the face, especially for all of us who are here for fun. That's some awful collusion. I just hope the ATD can continue to progress without it being such a mockery. If he wanted these points across, he just should have incessantly stressed them. He didn't have to try to overrule the system, which will most likely ultimately end up as the end of his run on HFBoards ATD.
Too bad.
Oh, I absolutely expect that he will never be allowed to participate in any future ATD under any capacity ever again, and I am quite certain that his IP address will be very closely tracked, since he wasn't outright banned. Unfortunately, if he moves somewhere else, his IP address will be different, and he can come back and, as long as he doesn't give himself away, get back into it pretty easily. The ATD community is generally very accepting of new people, and this sometimes may work against us.
That's that.Boy Wonder said:I absolutely expect that he will never be allowed to participate in any future ATD under any capacity ever again.
maybe we should only accept new GM with some hfboards past that are known by at least one of the forum on the site like the lounge or their team board.
maybe we should only accept new GM with some hfboards past that are known by at least one of the forum on the site like the lounge or their team board.
There has only been Zamboni Mania and The Sabre as socks. The mods have found both of them and merged them into the original.
The last 6 years has been great.
From first joining ATD2 in 2005 to being the one to suggest regular season rankings and playoff match-ups based on them, to developing the MLDs as a freestanding entity rather than just a couple of extra rounds at the end, to the AAA, AA and Undrafted threads. I have put thousands of hours into this board and have gotten a lot out of it. Whenever I have ran the drafts I have made sure to get outsiders to tally the votes. I added ZM in ATD11 as a stop gap measure to reach the desired team total, and when a replacement wasn't found, it just took off from there, but the best players available were drafted, as far as deemed so. The Sabre was to help get to 40 and then became a substitute for VI when VI needed a break from any responsibility or expectations. Only The Sabre had a team in the ATD 2011 draft, though make up picks late were made by the other two, BPAs it was thought. Perhaps a building ought to have been drafted. Anyways, the integrity of the drafts hasn't suffered much if one examines the details. Banning VanIslander may be your way of cleansing the board of all taint. If so, so be it. Certainly there are no more socks around, as the mods have made it clear they can and did catch them, merging them, as you can see. I assume they all had the same IP address. I certainly did nothing more than open a new account using one of my other email accounts as reference, not hiding and thus eventually found by the mods.
That's that.
Has VI always been Zamboni Mania, or did he just take over recently? ZM has been around for a while, so if they've always been the same person, that's a big problem.
Didn't The Sabre have quite a few posts when he joined this ATD? That means VI either took over that account or he had been using it for a while.
I know Dwight came up before, and he was cleared because he's from LeafsChat..... but how do we know VI doesn't have accounts on that message board as well? He could very well be some of the posters who have come over.
Not a single GM here can be cleared....
Has VI always been Zamboni Mania, or did he just take over recently? ZM has been around for a while, so if they've always been the same person, that's a big problem.
Didn't The Sabre have quite a few posts when he joined this ATD? That means VI either took over that account or he had been using it for a while.
I know Dwight came up before, and he was cleared because he's from LeafsChat..... but how do we know VI doesn't have accounts on that message board as well? He could very well be some of the posters who have come over.
Not a single GM here can be cleared....
So we have two options moving forward: disqualify all 3 of VIs teams from the playoffs or keep then and just ban him from voting.
I'd lean towards keeping them, but then I've always been a bleeding heart liberal. The makeup teams are obviously losing in the preliminary round anyway.
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IP addresses can clear them.
Are IPs shown when posting from a phone?