Confirmed with Link: [ARZ/COL] Darcy Kuemper for Conor Timmins, 2022 1st, 2024 3rd (conditional)

[SniperHF]

Surprised nobody pointed this out yet:
Remember when we got killed in the Tobias Rieder trade?


That's a lot of value for the corpse of Toby Rieder

 

[Mosby]

I hear ya. But isn't there a happy medium? Can't we at least sign some okay UFAs to 1-2 year deals? Maybe trade for a 25 year old goalie with some long-term upside?

Some short-term deals would be especially nice to cash out at the deadline for even more picks.

 

[MIGs Dog]

Hopefully the whole concussion thing is behind him

He was not a physical presence in the one game I watched, and the concussion history could be why. Don't know for sure as I haven't followed him throughout his career.

 

[rt]

Can't say I noticed it, but my credentials scouting players is suspect. At times he showed good speed, both coming back to defend and taking the puck up ice. In the defensive zone, he covered well in front of the net, working to gain position and lifting sticks as needed. While he didn't contribute to any scoring, he definitely was not a defensive liability.

It used the be the first thing anyone would notice. And honestly, may have a lot to do with his concussion. Dude was folded over like a speed skater. Anyone remember Alexandre Picard? Disappointing top ten pick of the Blue Jackets that was a grinder for a season with the Yotes. It was like that. Picard is the worst hunch I've seen at a high-level (WJC, NHL, MemCup, like that) and Timmins was the the 2nd worst. (Lucic doesn't count because it's a physical abnormality from birth and it's only the shoulders and up).

 

[MIGs Dog]

Timmins the X-factor? Assist of the year!? Not a ton of Timmins analysis, but this guy has a silky smooth podcast voice.

 

[hbk]

6 months ago we would have been doing handstands for just one of these two assets. Hell we would have been doing handstands for their 2021 1st rounder alone. To get the 2022 1st and Timmins is almost a miracle.

 

[TheLegend]

Surprised nobody pointed this out yet:
Remember when we got killed in the Tobias Rieder trade?


That's a lot of value for the corpse of Toby Rieder

You forgot we threw in Scott Wedgewood as a party favor.

 

[RemoAZ]

NHL trade grades: Darcy Kuemper to the Colorado Avalanche, Conor Timmins and draft picks to the Arizona Coyotes (espn.com)

"We just held off and held our ground in negotiations. As more goaltenders signed, it began apparent that he was the big chip that other teams that wanted to win the Cup wanted," said Armstrong.
The Coyotes right now have Sabres castoff Carter Hutton as their starting goaltender. Maybe they add another. Maybe they play with an empty net. It doesn't matter; this team has been stripped down to the copper pipes, and you have to give Armstrong credit for the ferocity of their tank, er, "retooling."

 

[TheLegend]

 

[rt]

I didn’t think he was going to sit out the season.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

They've already decided he'll be wearing #25.

 

[Kaizen]

Thomas Steen

 

[TheLegend]

Friedman reporting Timmins signed 2x$850k extension.

 

[XX]

Friedman reporting Timmins signed 2x$850k extension.

That's pretty cheap. Figure he could have gotten $1.5m x 2. He's about to be fed as much top 4 icetime as he can handle.

 

[MIGs Dog]

That's pretty cheap. Figure he could have gotten $1.5m x 2. He's about to be fed as much top 4 icetime as he can handle.

I think he's still trying to prove he's the player he was before his 18 month concussion recovery.

 

[awfulwaffle]

NHL trade grades: Darcy Kuemper to the Colorado Avalanche, Conor Timmins and draft picks to the Arizona Coyotes (espn.com)

"We just held off and held our ground in negotiations. As more goaltenders signed, it began apparent that he was the big chip that other teams that wanted to win the Cup wanted," said Armstrong.
The Coyotes right now have Sabres castoff Carter Hutton as their starting goaltender. Maybe they add another. Maybe they play with an empty net. It doesn't matter; this team has been stripped down to the copper pipes, and you have to give Armstrong credit for the ferocity of their tank, er, "retooling."

Kudos to Armstrong, wonder what they were getting offered before they were all getting signed.

 

[AvsGuy]

Just finished.

• 2nd powerplay unit; appears to be a rare occurrence and driven by injuries
• Did some PKing as well
• Average speed; defends well
• Jumps up on the play when the opportunity is there.
• Flubbed a pass on PP causing a turn over; several shaky puck handling exhibits even when not contested
• Not a frequent hitter or shot-blocker
• Nothing flashy and nothing jumped out as either a huge positive or negative. I could see him playing significant minutes for the Yotes this season considering the options available.

Oh yeah, Avs won with 39 seconds remaining. Fleury takes the loss. Probably why he was traded on Twitter.

This was my big beef with Timmins - you hold your breath every single outlet pass because half the time it just floats off his stick and onto the opposition's

That said, he solidified his play down the stretch and even did some nice things in the playoffs, so if the slower pace in Arizona works for him, Yotes fans should expect a good 2nd pairing guy

I was personally over the moon with the trade - should I be? Can Kuemper still be that guy?

 

[MIGs Dog]

if the slower pace in Arizona works for him,

 

[MIGs Dog]

Kuemper is great when healthy.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

This was my big beef with Timmins - you hold your breath every single outlet pass because half the time it just floats off his stick and onto the opposition's

That said, he solidified his play down the stretch and even did some nice things in the playoffs, so if the slower pace in Arizona works for him, Yotes fans should expect a good 2nd pairing guy

I was personally over the moon with the trade - should I be? Can Kuemper still be that guy?

Kuemper will be a sub 2.00gaa for Colorado and probably win the Vezina if he is healthy, which he should be considering Colorado won't have to ride him like RT did all season long.

 

[hbk]

Keumper is great in a Coyotes heavy volume system. May be an adjustment where he has to adjust to facing half the workload shots wise. Regardless should be a top goalie this year if he’s healthy.

 

[Jakey53]

This was my big beef with Timmins - you hold your breath every single outlet pass because half the time it just floats off his stick and onto the opposition's

That said, he solidified his play down the stretch and even did some nice things in the playoffs, so if the slower pace in Arizona works for him, Yotes fans should expect a good 2nd pairing guy

I was personally over the moon with the trade - should I be? Can Kuemper still be that guy?

If healthy, Kuemper is very good.

 

[Gwyddbwyll]

Kuemper likes the work so I expect him to let in occasional softies when the Avs are dominating games. That will mean his stats wont be as stellar as you might think. But when the Avs are under the cosh (which isnt very often) is when he should step up as he did for the Coyotes most nights and that'll be the acid test.

 

[Jormungandr]

Kuemper will be a sub 2.00gaa for Colorado and probably win the Vezina if he is healthy, which he should be considering Colorado won't have to ride him like RT did all season long.

Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to play a guy 12 straight games in a condensed schedule? Even leaving him in to get shelled in games where he obviously didn’t have his best stuff.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to play a guy 12 straight games in a condensed schedule? Even leaving him in to get shelled in games where he obviously didn’t have his best stuff.

RT dumb?
We should coin that.