Rumor: Arthur Staple: Isles Remain Front-Runner for Tavares | Other teams still in mix

Kelly

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The Isles only play in the toughest division in hockey. This division has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. Pad stats? Another misinformed post here.

Except the Islanders aren't Pittsburgh or Washington. He quite clearly was bringing up the fact that the Islanders let in the most GA in the league last year.
 

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Really think the Devils are a favorite here. Shero's keeping this pretty low-key, but I'd be very surprised if he doesn't offer Tavares a very competitive contract to stay close to home (edit: home as in where he currently spends the majority of his time) and play on an up-and-coming team with a future Hart Trophy winner.

But I'm clearly biased.

Why would he pick the devils over the isles?
 

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Naw, why it doesn't make a ton of sense this situation actually happens a lot. Whenever a star or high end player is coming up for UFA who is either too important for the franchise or needed for a playoff run the most common outcome is teams risk them leaving as its too important to have them or to give every effort to resign them. We saw this with Stamkos as well as guys like Stastny in Colorado a few years ago.

Its actually pretty rare for GMs to trade guys who haven't signed yet. In NYI's case specifically if JT leaves it completely blows up that team so they're likely to try everything, including firing the entire front office and coaching staff in a last ditch effort to keep him.


They just fired the front office. Theyll do it again??
 

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Except the Islanders aren't Pittsburgh or Washington. He quite clearly was bringing up the fact that the Islanders let in the most GA in the league last year.

Washington(cup winner), Pittsburg(past 2 cup winners prior to this year), and Columbus, NJ Devils, Carolina. Only one team below .500. NY Rangers. The notion of the Isles stats were padded by playing inferior teams is a bad narrative. When it is clear it is the best division in the NHL.
 

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Why would he pick the devils over the isles?

Devils have the Cap space, and Hall to play with but they are a tier 3 option and I would say its unlikely. Teams like LV and SJ makes the most sense and some darkhorse teams like STL or Col also would be a better fit than either the NYI or NJD.

LV is the clear favorite right now imo.
 

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Washington(cup winner), Pittsburg(past 2 cup winners prior to this year), and Columbus, NJ Devils, Carolina. Only one team below .500. NY Rangers. The notion of the Isles stats were padded by playing inferior teams is a bad narrative. When it is clear it is the best division in the NHL.

Can you read or nah? The Islanders were the worst defensive team in the league this year. Playing AGAINST the Islanders would help Tavares pad his stats. You're the only one here who said anything about the Metro being weak. The Islanders defense is weak, not the metro.
 
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Kelly

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Washington(cup winner), Pittsburg(past 2 cup winners prior to this year), and Columbus, NJ Devils, Carolina. Only one team below .500. NY Rangers. The notion of the Isles stats were padded by playing inferior teams is a bad narrative. When it is clear it is the best division in the NHL.
You didn't understand what he said.
 
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See this sounds good in theory, and as a fan I know you want to believe it, but it's ultimately bull****.

If the Devils/Rangers/Penguins offer the right money and fit what JT is looking for, he's going to ink the contract without much thought about what division they're in. I doubt he's worried about what Islanders fans think.

From the Devils, see: Gomez, Holik, JMac, etc

Holik and Maclean were over the hill and I am pretty sure were not heavily pursued by the Devils, and I am not sure how much the Devils wanted to keep Gomez at the time, and Tavares is practically the Islanders franchise, if he is going to leave after telling us the last couple of years how much he wants to stay especially to a close rival like the Devils or the Rangers, than yea that is the ultimate messed up thing, I just do not see him doing it
 

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I think VK has to be a front runner. McPhee and JT are tight and they have plenty of cap space. Also, he will give up a lot less to the tax man.
 

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Devils have the Cap space, and Hall to play with but they are a tier 3 option and I would say its unlikely. Teams like LV and SJ makes the most sense and some darkhorse teams like STL or Col also would be a better fit than either the NYI or NJD.

LV is the clear favorite right now imo.

*ahem*



ok ok likely not, but we should still be in this conversation lol
 

The Winter Soldier

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You didn't understand what he said.

Can you read or nah? The Islanders were the worst defensive team in the league this year. Playing AGAINST the Islanders would help Tavares pad his stats. You're the only one here who said anything about the Metro being weak. The Islanders defense is weak, not the metro.

I don't think either of you understood what I said. It's so simple hockey 101 that I didn't think I really needed to explain this. But I am here to help. The Isles were playing in a good division. This may have been a factor to higher GA. They were not playing Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo last year. Again the Metro has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. A point worth noting.
 

Kelly

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I don't think either of you understood what I said. It's so simple hockey 101 that I didn't think I really needed to explain this. But I am here to help. The Isles were playing in a good division. This may have been a factor to higher GA. They were not playing Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo last year. Again the Metro has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. A point worth noting.
Lmao.
 
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I don't think either of you understood what I said. It's so simple hockey 101 that I didn't think I really needed to explain this. But I am here to help. The Isles were playing in a good division. This may have been a factor to higher GA. They were not playing Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo last year. Again the Metro has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. A point worth noting.

lmao. Metro is doing well ONLY because of Crosby,Malkin, Ovechkin and Backstrom meta because of the 2004-2005-2006 draft. If toronto or Florida had those players it would have been the Atlantic dynasty.
Pits and Wash are carrying this division for 7+ years.
Atlantic Division will probably be the best division in 5-6 years with all those prospects. Isles are just badly coached and seriously badly managed.
 

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I don't think either of you understood what I said. It's so simple hockey 101 that I didn't think I really needed to explain this. But I am here to help. The Isles were playing in a good division. This may have been a factor to higher GA. They were not playing Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo last year. Again the Metro has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. A point worth noting.
No one is saying the Metro is a horrible division. They are saying the Islanders among all 31 teams allowed the most goals against and that number was 293.

NHL.com - Stats
 

Martin Skoula

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I don't think either of you understood what I said. It's so simple hockey 101 that I didn't think I really needed to explain this. But I am here to help. The Isles were playing in a good division. This may have been a factor to higher GA. They were not playing Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo last year. Again the Metro has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. A point worth noting.

The Islanders allowed 30 more goals against than the team you just described as the worst in the Metro division. They allowed 40 more goals against than the next worst team in the divison who was starting potentially the worst goalie in the league last season in Darling.

Why is it that only the Islanders seem to allow so many GA in that division? Maybe they're atrocious defensively?
 
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The Islanders allowed 30 more goals against than the team you just described as the worst in the Metro division. They allowed 40 more goals against than the next worst team in the divison who was starting potentially the worst goalie in the league last season in Darling.

Why is it that only the Islanders seem to allow so many GA in that division? Maybe they're atrocious defensively?
But, but, but.

This doesn't fit his narrative.
 
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The Winter Soldier

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lmao. Metro is doing well ONLY because of Crosby,Malkin, Ovechkin and Backstrom meta because of the 2004-2005-2006 draft. If toronto or Florida had those players it would have been the Atlantic dynasty.
Pits and Wash are carrying this division for 7+ years.
Atlantic Division will probably be the best division in 5-6 years with all those prospects. Isles are just badly coached and seriously badly managed.

They were not last year.
 

Martin Skoula

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I don't think either of you understood what I said. It's so simple hockey 101 that I didn't think I really needed to explain this. But I am here to help. The Isles were playing in a good division. This may have been a factor to higher GA. They were not playing Ottawa, Montreal or Buffalo last year. Again the Metro has yielded the Cup winner 3 years in a row. A point worth noting.

Lmao, I went back and checked just for you:

3 games against Buffalo, 9 goals against (3.00 GAA)
3 games against Ottawa, 10 goals against (3.34 GAA)
3 games against Montreal, 13 goals against (4.34 GAA)
3 games against Detroit, 15 goals against (5.00 GAA)

I know you're not going to reply to this like you normally don't after getting proven wrong, but "I am here to help".
 

X66

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Of course the islanders poor season is a reflection of the division they played in!

That’s why they were 22-24-8 against the rest of the NHL.

That 78 point pace is scary gud.
 
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