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AB13

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This is absolutely ridiculous, Mikel



 
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So did he take a video of a teammate (possibly underaged) masturbating? Or did he take a normal video and accidentally caught a kid masturbating in the background in the locker room?

There’s a pretty significant difference between those two situations.
 

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So did he take a video of a teammate (possibly underaged) masturbating? Or did he take a normal video and accidentally caught a kid masturbating in the background in the locker room?

There’s a pretty significant difference between those two situations.
Frankly, I'd say you can argue both, but he probably did it on purpose. The guy was next to him.
And you can see he's kind of smiling. And the guy doing himself in the middle of the lockerroom seems to be fine with it too.

This kind of things happen frequently nowadays unfortunately, and happens a lot in rugby lockerrooms. The fact it was filmed makes it a whole lot more difficult to explain.
 

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Frankly, I'd say you can argue both, but he probably did it on purpose. The guy was next to him.
And you can see he's kind of smiling. And the guy doing himself in the middle of the lockerroom seems to be fine with it too.

This kind of things happen frequently nowadays unfortunately, and happens a lot in rugby lockerrooms. The fact it was filmed makes it a whole lot more difficult to explain.

Yea it’s definitely an issue either way, I was just making the point that one situation is potentially criminal and gets you registered as a sex offender and the other is still not good but is more of a pay a fine and get told not to take videos in the locker room type situation.
 

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Yeah, people who aren't in a lockerroom nowadays won't understand.
There's been an evolution, I don't know how to explain it, but kids often do that in front of others these days. I don't know it's porn, but kids who live together (boarding school, football teams, etc...) tend to do this in front of their buddies without any remorse.
But you just DON'T film it. And if you do to mock a buddy, you DON'T POST IT, even by mistake.

That's utterly stupid.
 

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If that can make some Arsenal fans feel better of the possibility of losing Saliba, he's in deep shit right now.
He posted a snap yesterday publicly instead of privately.
On that video, he was filming in the lockerroom and you can distinctly see a player... masturbating.
That video has a few years and it's in a NT youth competition given the jerseys worn by some players.
The federation might suspend him.

:facepalm:
 

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• Last 101 games under Wenger: 183 PTS / +73 GD
• 101 games since Wenger left: 160 PTS / +35 GD
Emery and Arteta have also had much more financial backing than Wenger ever recieved. Hopefully the fans that wanted our greatest ever manager out have learnt to be careful what they wish for.
 

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Arsenal in the league
• Last 101 games under Wenger: 183 PTS / +73 GD
• 101 games since Wenger left: 160 PTS / +35 GD
Emery and Arteta have also had much more financial backing than Wenger ever recieved. Hopefully the fans that wanted our greatest ever manager out have learnt to be careful what they wish for.
That's because Arsenal always had the funds, but Wenger never really wanted to spend money. It has been well documented that Wenger just kept trusting his players too much and never really thought they needed to be upgraded on. He also didn't believe in having a Vieira type of player anymore at all, which was one of our biggest weaknesses until grabbing Partey. Wenger was a generational manager, but modern football and how to succeed has sadly passed him by (it's all about a money game now). It's looking like Arteta isn't the answer either due to the consistency issues with the club, but going back to Arsene isn't the answer originally either. Lets offer him a high position with the club and look for a fresh new coach. Like I said in the other match day thread, we should expect a lot more losses coming up due to our fixture list.
 

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That's because Arsenal always had the funds, but Wenger never really wanted to spend money. It has been well documented that Wenger just kept trusting his players too much and never really thought they needed to be upgraded on. He also didn't believe in having a Vieira type of player anymore at all, which was one of our biggest weaknesses until grabbing Partey. Wenger was a generational manager, but modern football and how to succeed has sadly passed him by (it's all about a money game now). It's looking like Arteta isn't the answer either due to the consistency issues with the club, but going back to Arsene isn't the answer originally either. Lets offer him a high position with the club and look for a fresh new coach. Like I said in the other match day thread, we should expect a lot more losses coming up due to our fixture list.
Wenger absolutely wanted to spend money, but the club didn’t allow him to. He has apparently been very frustrated with the lack of backing from the board and expressed that since leaving. He felt let down by the club and moaned about decisions being taken from above towards the end. But yes, we lacked a Vieira type ( don’t know if that was due to Wenger or the board). If Wenger got to stay past 2018 and add a solid CB like Gabriel and solid DM like Partey, we would probably have won the league quite soon after. Wenger is the best manager ever at understanding attacking balance and I really miss being exited to watch Arsenal play like I always was when he was the manager.
 

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Does this really make sense to you? Manager has resource to improve the squad but refuses...for what?
Absolutely, Wenger trusted in his players (to the point it was too much) and after we paid off the stadium we had like 8 runs in the row of making the CL group stage. This lead to - I believe - 30 million for making the tourney and another 30 million for the round of 16. He bought two major players at a lot of money; Ozil and Sanchez during his managerial era. Then he and Arsenal realised that the only way to stay competitive is to spend more and that's how Xhaka and Mustafi came to be (with great help from Ivan the Terrible). Wenger was always a hidden gem bloke, Cazorla was a perfect example and Henry/Bergkamp are others. Football passed him by when the hidden gem tactics were thrown out the window once oil tycoons started buying clubs. Arsenal is quite a wealthy team, we just spent 45 million on Partey during an era of no fans and covid.
 

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Wenger absolutely wanted to spend money,
Sadly, I don't believe this at all even if I hope it's true.
But yes, we lacked a Vieira type ( don’t know if that was due to Wenger or the board)
It was Wenger, he's said multiple times that Vieira type of players aren't needed anymore in modern football. I don't necessarily disagree with that comment, but all his clubs had very short players. Every single year we would get dominated by physical clubs like Stoke. I am not saying to go out and get a Schneiderlin, but to think that players like Partey and Soumare aren't worth it really let down his clubs. We were so easy to counterattack and when we got roughed up, we normally lost. I suggest he should take a lot of blame in the lack of CL success, getting beat down badly by Bayern every other year, with terrible losses against Monaco, and AC Milan. It's just too much.
If Wenger got to stay past 2018 and add a solid CB
Wenger and Ivan with their last "hooray" completely wasted money on Xhaka and Mustafi. That was his solid "CB" and "CDM" that he absolutely needed. I would rather have spent 80 million Pepe 2.0 again than ever buy another Xhaka or Mustafi at half that cost. I love Wenger, but everyone has an expiration date and he was sadly past his. I think a reason why we're struggling now is because the entire club was set up for him and his tactics for the last twenty years. To say that a club who had a revelation as a manager and spent twenty years will be broken in four-ish years is just naive logic (not saying you're doing it). I would kill to get a younger version of him, how we played was magical and I hate this Spanish style of football about playing from the back and basically passing it into the net. But I much rather not have him again, even though a lot of the hate against him is/was unjustified (including from me).
 
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Wenger and still built a very good foundation and overacheived with every single squad he had a few players were missing for us to become title contenders when he left. Then, Emery essentialy got rid of Ramsey, Özil, Cazorla, Wilshere and tried to move away from Wenger’s players and ideology, which led to us struggling. Wenger also wanted Kante, not Xhaka, but Gazidis overruled him due to his new Stat-DNA project. I still think Gazidis did a good job overall though as well but fans can’t see that yet.
 

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Wenger and still built a very good foundation and overacheived with every single squad he had a few players were missing for us to become title contenders when he left. Then, Emery essentialy got rid of Ramsey, Özil, Cazorla, Wilshere and tried to move away from Wenger’s players and ideology, which led to us struggling. Wenger also wanted Kante, not Xhaka, but Gazidis overruled him due to his new Stat-DNA project. I still think Gazidis did a good job overall though as well but fans can’t see that yet.
That's a fair point except Gazidis, he's a fraud and I hope that zero success ever reaches him.
 

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Imagine we did not shoot ourselves in the foot deciding to not play a creative playmaker for the first 4 months of the season.
If we also just showed a little more discipline every now and again too.... Could easily have 6-10 more points on the year....

Going through "what if" scenarios hurts me lol
 

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Very sad. I knew he left AFTV a while ago but thought he would eventually come back.
I don't think he was ever coming back for those *derogatory* remarks if they truly were. His health always was on the decline since I started watching AFTV. I mean he was always a bit chubby, but the last three or so years he really put on a lot of weight (like badly). RIP Claude, were always a little crazy and that made him unique and a fan favourite on that channel.
 

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I don't think he was ever coming back for those *derogatory* remarks if they truly were. His health always was on the decline since I started watching AFTV. I mean he was always a bit chubby, but the last three or so years he really put on a lot of weight (like badly). RIP Claude, were always a little crazy and that made him unique and a fan favourite on that channel.
Have you seen him in the early years of AFTV? He was SKINNY.
 

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