NHL Around the NHL XXIV - Bubble Hockey Continues..............
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You know how you can spot a dumb hockey fan? They blame the goalie for losing in a shutout.
Or they are wearing a Leafs jersey.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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if i had a choice playing this next round of playoffs or getting a 1 in 8 chance to pick first overall... i take the playoffs
couldnt really care less who wins this lottery. i hear alot of comparisons between this kid and huberdreau. and admittedly huberdreau has become quite a nice point producing winger the last 2 years. hasnt helped florida make the playoffs though.
edmonton and toronto are loaded with outstanding highly drafted kids... and are both in this lottery
nathan mckinnon might very well be the best player in the nhl and hes gotten his team past the first round of the playoffs once in 7 years
people REALLY OVERRATE the effect that having a first overall pick has on a team
connor mcdavid... past the first round once in 5 years
aaron ekblad... never past the first round in 6 years
nail yakupov... never past the first round... out of the league
ryan nugent hopkins... past the first round once in 8 years
taylor hall... never past the first round in 9 years
john tavares... past first round once in 11 years
steven stamkos... 3 times in 12 years
there hasnt been a guy drafted first overall that has won a cup in the past 12 years since patrick kane went to chicago
honestly i think a team that generates alot of revenue for the league and helps pay the bills probably deserves this pick. i think this kid would get lost in edmonton... i dont think winnipeg will ever be a big generator...
sucks to say it, but for the health of the nhl i think best bet for him is to land in toronto. then they trade marner and nylander for a couple dmen and a winger with some grit/sandpaper.
for the good of the nhl, toronto has to become a legitimate contender... and they are miles away from that now without a lucky break of this sort
couldnt really care less who wins this lottery. i hear alot of comparisons between this kid and huberdreau. and admittedly huberdreau has become quite a nice point producing winger the last 2 years. hasnt helped florida make the playoffs though.
edmonton and toronto are loaded with outstanding highly drafted kids... and are both in this lottery
nathan mckinnon might very well be the best player in the nhl and hes gotten his team past the first round of the playoffs once in 7 years
people REALLY OVERRATE the effect that having a first overall pick has on a team
connor mcdavid... past the first round once in 5 years
aaron ekblad... never past the first round in 6 years
nail yakupov... never past the first round... out of the league
ryan nugent hopkins... past the first round once in 8 years
taylor hall... never past the first round in 9 years
john tavares... past first round once in 11 years
steven stamkos... 3 times in 12 years
there hasnt been a guy drafted first overall that has won a cup in the past 12 years since patrick kane went to chicago
honestly i think a team that generates alot of revenue for the league and helps pay the bills probably deserves this pick. i think this kid would get lost in edmonton... i dont think winnipeg will ever be a big generator...
sucks to say it, but for the health of the nhl i think best bet for him is to land in toronto. then they trade marner and nylander for a couple dmen and a winger with some grit/sandpaper.
for the good of the nhl, toronto has to become a legitimate contender... and they are miles away from that now without a lucky break of this sort
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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too simple... i wont blame anderson in the case of toronto because their real problem is a lack of compete throughout their lineup...
but if your team has zero/or even low confidence in the goalie then it definitely effects the way you play. the best hockey is when everyone trusts the guy next to them to do the job. you stop pushing things when you think every mistake you make can end up in your net. being afraid to make mistakes also stops you from making miricles too.
nhl level hockey defense is too strong to succeed against it unless you are seriously pushing your opportunities. and honestly, bad/soft goals against at a critical junction will kill a teams moral faster than any other thing that might happen in any game.
goalies dont even have to be great to win... they simply need to have the confidence of the team in front of them that they wont choke on you when you need them most. i daresay anderson in toronto doesnt have that type of confidence from him team.
sadly, im unsure rask has it here in boston either.
Trap Jesus
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I don't think it's fair to blame Matthews TBH.
He's scored 12 goals in 25 playoff games. That's very good, and it's not far off from his RS average. If you do 25+ playoff games played, he's 26th all-time for playoff goals per game (and top 5 this decade). Most goals scored by a player that hasn't gotten past the 1st round.
To add onto that, these were the ranks of his opponents for goals against per game each year:
2017: Capitals (1st)
2018: Bruins (4th)
2018: Bruins (T-3rd)
2019: Blue Jackets (T-3rd)
I think you can question him stepping up at the right times in his playoff career, but we saw he was capable of doing that in Game 4 and people just immediately discount that now because he didn't score in Game 5. He still staved off elimination in Game 4.
Leafs have proven they're an extremely flawed team and they can't crack through these top defenses with any kind of regularity, but Matthews seems legit to me.
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I’ve got the same final and result. That’s been my pick since September, I’m sticking with it
BruinDust
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You mean getting to play with a perennial winner like Matt Duchene isn't appealing?
AngryMilkcrates
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So, your saying Lafeniere playing on the wing of Filip Forsberg would be boring?
Jorah Marshmont
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So I havent had internet here since Wednesday, visited my parents yesterday who have internet back, and have had no cell service...
So I just found out about the Leafs totally unexpected loss
Probably wouldn't have been able to use HF last night anyway!
So I just found out about the Leafs totally unexpected loss
Probably wouldn't have been able to use HF last night anyway!
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AngryMilkcrates
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Forsberg plays center a lot
I love how people pingeon hole players into positions like they cant play any other.
Bergeron played RW in his first year in Boston.
Trap Jesus
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Centers can go to wing but it's way more rare the other way around
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AngryMilkcrates
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Correct, but not impossible. I am sure there are players that played wing in junior that ended up finishing their NHL careers at center.
to your credit I am having a hard time finding that obscure info however else I would give you a few names.
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As someone who has played every position, the most difficult shift is wing to center. I switched from wing to D and it was less difficult than going from wing to center. Centers have as many, if not more, defensive responsibilities as actual defensemen. Can't imagine how hard it is for a lifetime winger to shift to center at the NHL level.
Pia8988
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Wheeler did it out of necessity, but he's not exactly good there. It's more that he is better than their 3rd line center and Winnipeg has a lot of quality wingers.
AngryMilkcrates
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Yes he does.
He has played center on and off depending on who they throw him with on a line.
During their cup run in 2017 he played center
PS: Photo Evidence
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AngryMilkcrates
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Pia8988
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That isn't evidence. Hockey-reference is wrong.
He has take 54 career face offs in the regular season and 6 in the playoffs in his 8 year career. Filip Forsberg has played zero minutes at center in the NHL. The entire Seth Jones/Ryan Johansen trade was because they had zero centers. He took two that entire playoff run he played winger.
Filip Forsberg plays LW.
The only recent example of a NHL winger moving to center is Wheeler out of desperation. They tried putting Patrick Kane there and it was a failure.
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