Around The NHL - The Craig Morgan Vacation Watch

[Mosby]

Chayka had this to say on Demers:

General manager John Chayka declined to say if Demers would require a procedure.

“I think a player’s health is personal,” Chayka said. “He is out indefinitely.”

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I haven't played fantasy football for a few years so I don't look at NFL injury reports, but they were always relatively straightforward. Which, the difference in philosophy seems odd. And it's not like their opponents won't target them, too.

 

[rt]

Chayka had this to say on Demers:

General manager John Chayka declined to say if Demers would require a procedure.

“I think a player’s health is personal,” Chayka said. “He is out indefinitely.”

Silly. Nobody needs to know if he gets the clap but does he have a sprained ankle? What’s the harm. Why tell fans salaries? Or how many years contracts are for? Or who’s a free agent?

 

[MIGs Dog]

MLB injury report lists the afflicted area. For example, Zach Greinke is out with a groin injury.

 

[Jamieh]

Silly. Nobody needs to know if he gets the clap but does he have a sprained ankle? What’s the harm. Why tell fans salaries? Or how many years contracts are for? Or who’s a free agent?

Salary disclosure isn't for fans, that's the excuse used to make sure all players know how much more they should be asking for.

 

[Jakey53]

Salary disclosure isn't for fans, that's the excuse used to make sure all players know how much more they should be asking for.

Exactly, and that is why we have these crazy salaries.

 

[rt]

Exactly, and that is why we have these crazy salaries.

That’s not why. The reason is the league makes a lot of money and fans pay to see the players. Their salaries aren’t crazy. They’re a reflection of the profits the league makes and the part the players have in that.

 

[Jakey53]

That’s not why. The reason is the league makes a lot of money and fans pay to see the players. Their salaries aren’t crazy. They’re a reflection of the profits the league makes and the part the players have in that.

I disagree. One of the reasons for the ridiculous salary inflation is the agent's know what everyone is making. They use that big time for contract renewal all the time.

 

[rt]

I disagree. One of the reasons for the ridiculous salary inflation is the agent's know what everyone is making. They use that big time for contract renewal all the time.

It’s not ridiculous. Salaries aren’t ridiculous. Owners charge fans as much as the market will pay. Players charge the owners as much as they will pay. It’s called capitalism man. I figured a guy as filled with Red Dread as you seem to be would get it.

 

[ClassLessCoyote]

 

[Jamieh]

That’s not why. The reason is the league makes a lot of money and fans pay to see the players. Their salaries aren’t crazy. They’re a reflection of the profits the league makes and the part the players have in that.

I would suggest you do an online search for profitable teams, there aren't that many.

 

[Mosby]

 

[rt]

I would suggest you do an online search for profitable teams, there aren't that many.

The nhl is very profitable.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I would suggest you do an online search for profitable teams, there aren't that many.

In 2017 eight teams lost money, all the rest had positive operating income.

The Business Of Hockey

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I would suggest you do an online search for profitable teams, there aren't that many.

Oh no not the Maple Leaf "we're financing the rest of the league complaint" again. We're not having that here; don't give a rat's.

 

[Jamieh]

Oh no not the Maple Leaf "we're financing the rest of the league complaint" again. We're not having that here; don't give a rat's.

Mind trader are we??

 

[cobra427]

In 2017 eight teams lost money, all the rest had positive operating income.

The Business Of Hockey

It's a GAAP number anyway, so not really that relevant. Cash flow and a long term asset value analysis would tell a different, way more valuable, and more accurate story.

 

[Jakey53]

The nhl is very profitable.

Every team is their own entity. NHL is totally seperate.

 

[TheLegend]

Every team is their own entity. NHL is totally seperate.

Remember when the late George Gosbee decided to be the majority investor in IA??

"Now, we really bought one 30th of the NHL and we're managing a team in Phoenix, so it's a different concept now with regards to how the league works.”

George Gosbee Phoenix Coyotes: Owning Team A 'Dream Come True' For Calgary Businessman

 

[rt]

Every team is their own entity. NHL is totally seperate.

What’s your point? You said nhl player salaries are too high and it’s crazy.

 

[Jakey53]

What’s your point? You said nhl player salaries are too high and it’s crazy.

Never mind.

 

[Mosby]

Since returning from injury, Mike Smith is 1-5, .861 and 3.79 in 6 games.

 

[_Del_]

Checking in on one of the YUGE mistakes this year...

All goalies have good and bad games, not just smith. That is why the save % is a good overall measure. This way you aren't blinded by the bad or good performances of any goalie...

If he finishes with the 8th best save %, the sample size is large enough to eliminate the shutouts or 5 GA gamers you speak of. Not sure why you don't understand save% versus his peers, but whatever

.916
23rd among NHL goaltenders with over 15 GP


Raanta at #9 with .926
Kuemper at #15 with .921


We're paying both less than we would have paid Smith this year. I'm not sure what the handicap is for playing in front of the worst team ever with no system and the worst coaching, but I can't imagine it helps the argument to have not cleaned out the miasma from the lockerroom.

 

[rt]

I don’t envy your constant narrative calibration maintenance but I appreciate it.

 

[cobra427]

Checking in on one of the YUGE mistakes this year...


.916
23rd among NHL goaltenders with over 15 GP


Raanta at #9 with .926
Kuemper at #15 with .921


We're paying both less than we would have paid Smith this year. I'm not sure what the handicap is for playing in front of the worst team ever with no system and the worst coaching, but I can't imagine it helps the argument to have not cleaned out the miasma from the lockerroom.

Talk to me when either Raanta (42 games) or Kuemper is a starter not a part timer for a full season, then you can compare apples to apples. Smith is 10th in save % among goalies with 50 games or more.

FYI, I hope the Coyotes sign Raanta and he wins the Vezina next year.