Around the NHL - Part 2 - Playoffs, PLAYOFFS
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Matias Maccete
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Any lurking duck fans that are considering jumping, you can jump onto the coyotes bandwagon. Of course I think the wheels will fall of and it'll burst into flames at some point, but eh.
ck26
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The amount of abuse Crosby takes is stunning. Probably one of the 10 most talented players of all time, and his reward is to make less money than PK Subban and endure nonstop physical abuse from guys who aren't in his league. Hope he's OK. Inexcusable to hit a player like that when you're both standing still. McSorley-esque. Inexcusable to hit him again in the back when he's crumpled on the ice. Incredibly dangerous play. AP, THIS is the kind of thing players should be suspended for. Not talking bad about us in a post-game scrum.
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I've always liked Dubinsky, and Sid's always rubbed me the wrong way, but wow... And then the second cross check while he was already down on the ice -- hard enough to break your stick?!
This is the sort of ************* that should be removed from the game. Not fighting or open ice hitting.
This is the sort of ************* that should be removed from the game. Not fighting or open ice hitting.
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kihekah19*
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Agreed, never has been any honor in that brand of cowardice.
A crosscheck is a crosscheck and it shouldn't even be allowed, in front of the net, or anywhere else.
Matias Maccete
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This. To me there should be a clear separation between hockey plays gone wrong, and dirty cheap shots. A high hit, a late hit, stuff like that you still punish, but less severely. Sucker punching, cross checking people's necks and crap like that you punish harshly and swiftly. Unless you ban hits high hits and late hits are going to happen, but obvious dirty intent to injure stuff like that happens way too frequently, and it shouldn't.
Correct.
Remember how Tkachuk use to get abused in front of the net? I can not understand how they do not call these blatant cross checks. They happen every game yet they hardly ever get called.
kihekah19*
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For years and years now huh? I can't necessarily blame the players for the "legal" crosschecks..... if they're going to allow 'em
But why then is slashing and butt ending and all stick work not allowed as seen fit by officials? 
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I love the rough stuff in the crease. Cross-checks, slashes, pushing a guy's lid over his brow from behind, etc. I think the "rules" are different in the crease. They call the nastiest of it, and swallow their whistles for most of the "battle". And I'm fine with that. But a cross check to the neck? Come on. No room for that on the ice.
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It's only good if your on defense..... as a forward I thought otherwise!
Seriously, I think the only call they shouldn't make is a trip that happened because the defender had his stick between the offensive players legs while trying to physically drive him from the crease. Crosschecks etc. are just lazy defense.
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The call generally depends on if it is the half-push, half-check cross check or the full, wound up cross check. A few love taps to the guys calves. The big grin when kihekah finally has enough and turns around and gives you a two-hander and gets the penalty... etc, etc... 
Anyway, as a fan, I love watching the battle for position at the crease. It seems more rare these days, which seems sort of odd because players are getting bigger.
At best the cross-check to the neck might have been extremely careless. Giving him the treatment, breaking your stick over his midsection when he's turtled on the ice is ridiculous. And if you do that, it makes it hard to say the first cross-check just caught him higher than you intended. Can't believe he only got a game. The NHL's wheel of justice spins on.
Anyway, as a fan, I love watching the battle for position at the crease. It seems more rare these days, which seems sort of odd because players are getting bigger.
At best the cross-check to the neck might have been extremely careless. Giving him the treatment, breaking your stick over his midsection when he's turtled on the ice is ridiculous. And if you do that, it makes it hard to say the first cross-check just caught him higher than you intended. Can't believe he only got a game. The NHL's wheel of justice spins on.
howlincoyote2k1
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Just got done watching CHI/LA overtime. This is exactly why I love it for 5 minute OT, but wouldn't want it full time; back and forth action, pretty constant until Gaborik won it on a breakaway.
Love it for OT, but it would get old in a hurry if it was implemented full time.
Love it for OT, but it would get old in a hurry if it was implemented full time.
ck26
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John Tortorella needs to give his head a shake. What an idiot. Dubinsky got away from a McSorley-esque foul with a 1 game suspension. Dubinsky is lucky that the DOPS was asleep at the wheel on this.
Torts has got about 1.75 seasons until his next firing. I'd recommend he not advertise the fact that he is brain-damaged too loudly, because he'll need to slip that by an unsuspecting GM in summer 2017 if he wants to stay in hockey.
Torts has got about 1.75 seasons until his next firing. I'd recommend he not advertise the fact that he is brain-damaged too loudly, because he'll need to slip that by an unsuspecting GM in summer 2017 if he wants to stay in hockey.
Now that Dubinsky has a suspension history he will probably be suspended every time they play the Pens as he constantly does similar crap to Crosby and for some strange reason the stripes tend to allow it. If we want fighting out of the game it needs to start punishing this crap more severely, it's what started the fighting.
Matias Maccete
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Yup. Either allow the players to police themselves or actually punish the stuff that needs to be punished. I'm all for eliminating fighting if that also means getting rid of the dirty stuff, but I think if you eliminate fighting and the discipline stays as is you'll just see teams trading cheap shots imo.
According to this site under the old overtime rules, "around 13.5% of regular season games will end in a shootout."
I did a quick adding up of the games so far this season under the new 3 on 3 and the rate of a game going to a shootout is 7.9%. (28 shootouts in 354 games played).
The 3 on 3 has reduced shootouts by about 42%. .
I did a quick adding up of the games so far this season under the new 3 on 3 and the rate of a game going to a shootout is 7.9%. (28 shootouts in 354 games played).
The 3 on 3 has reduced shootouts by about 42%. .
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NHL.com article on Burke: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=790096&navid=DL|NHL|home
Guess he had hip surgery which is why he didn't take a job right away.
Guess he had hip surgery which is why he didn't take a job right away.
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