MortiestOfMortys
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This Caps team really seems to buck the whole “small and quick wins cups” assumption, right? Ovie, Eller, Wilson, DSP, Connolly, Chia, Beagle... not exactly a team of Pavel Bure’s out there.
This Caps team really seems to buck the whole “small and quick wins cups” assumption, right? Ovie, Eller, Wilson, DSP, Connolly, Chia, Beagle... not exactly a team of Pavel Bure’s out there.
That's about as accurate a representation of what people actually believe as "only big and slow wins cups" is of your position. Speed and small are not conjoined twins.This Caps team really seems to buck the whole “small and quick wins cups” assumption, right? Ovie, Eller, Wilson, DSP, Connolly, Chia, Beagle... not exactly a team of Pavel Bure’s out there.
That's about as accurate a representation of what people actually believe as "only big and slow wins cups" is of your position. Speed and small are not conjoined twins.
A lot of your list is actually pretty mobile, and much of the rest barely plays.
Their top 9 forwards by TOI are Ovechkin, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Oshie, Wilson, Eller, Burakovsky, Vrana, and Beagle, in that order. If you were to put that group someplace on the fast/mobile vs slow/immobile spectrum, it wouldn't be at the end that you're implying.
Those 2 are fast and mobile.....Ah, yes I forgot, the first thing people think of when you say Ovechkin, Wilson, Eller and Beagle is fast/mobile.
Speed and small are not conjoined twins in the same way that big/physical and slow are not. It doesn’t stop people from pretending that both are true. But “it isn’t that league anymore” so Tampa’s small soldiers should have been able to dip and dive around Washington’s stifling physicality. But they didn’t.
So I’m curious, if this is really a copycat league and Washington wins it, what is the attribute most teams will be trying to replicate? My guess is a strong (probably over performing) defense, good two-way forwards with many ways to shut you down, and a few elite offensive weapons that are engaged in the 200 foot game. It won’t be Washington’s speed.
Those 2 are fast and mobile.....
That is part of what makes them who they are.I would pretty confidently say that the first characteristics people think of when you say Ovechkin and Wilson are not speed and mobility.
I would pretty confidently say that the first characteristics people think of when you say Ovechkin and Wilson are not speed and mobility.
I gave specific, concrete, reasons why it's "not that league anymore." Do you not understand that saying those reasons are "tipping the scales" in a different direction is not the same thing as stating that X will always trump Y, right? Why does it always have to be so black and white with you? It's hard to talk about trends with a person who thinks that one example to the contrary "disproves" a trend.Ah, yes I forgot, the first thing people think of when you say Ovechkin, Wilson, Eller and Beagle is fast/mobile.
Speed and small are not conjoined twins in the same way that big/physical and slow are not. It doesn’t stop people from pretending that both are true. But “it isn’t that league anymore” so Tampa’s small soldiers should have been able to dip and dive around Washington’s stifling physicality. But they didn’t.
So I’m curious, if this is really a copycat league and Washington wins it, what is the attribute most teams will be trying to replicate? My guess is a strong (probably over performing) defense, good two-way forwards with many ways to shut you down, and a few elite offensive weapons that are engaged in the 200 foot game. It won’t be Washington’s speed.
LeBrun reporting the league expects the salary cap to jump 5 million for an 80 million dollar salary cap next year.
Eller has to score there. Vegas 3 wins away
Oshie’s up to 21 points in 23 games this post season. Also up to 52 points in 78 career playoff games now.
So weird. It’s almost like his playoff time here was such a small sample size that it was ridiculous to label him a playoff choker.
Or, it could be that he's playing with much more offensively gifted personnel in Backstrom, Kuznetsov, and Ovechkin than Backes, Steen, Stastny, Perron, Berglund, etc.
PS. I loved Oshie and miss him playing here, but he wouldn't have reached those heights here, unfortunately.
No, it was the first thing. Or the Hitch thing where he ramped up his defensive usage and strict adherence to the safe play in the playoffs, especially for the SOB shut-down line. So Vlady's first thing, or the Hitch thing, but definitely not the "he only produces with superstars thing". He was a 50-60 point regular season player with those talentless slugs, same as he is with the superstars in Washington. So unless their stardom only effects him on a full moon and in May, its not that thing.