Around the NHL 2019-20

[Flgatorguy87]

None of those players are coming here. I'd not mind a look at Djoos except he's a LD and we need a RD.

Otherwise Sprong and Ho Sang aren't going to be better than Tolvanen who didn't make the team, ANH and NYI need offensive weapons and they waived these guys, so... And Baertschi isn't good, especially with his cap hit.

Yeah. I don't it's likely, but just because they aren't better than Tolvanen doesn't mean you pass on a free asset that still has upside. Ho Sang and Sprong both have really high upside, and minimal risk. You let Tolvanen develop if you want to and grab another freebie asset. I think Petan is an interesting name too.

 

[Scoresberg]

There could be some good pickups in the waivers today:

Thomas Hickey
Matt Tennyson
Luke Schenn

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

The only thing we might arguably have room for is a competent RD. All of those draft-pedigree scoring types are on waivers precisely because they a) can't crack an NHL top-6 forward role, and b) suck at playing a bottom-6 forward role. There's no room for any of those guys here, regardless of how "intriguing" they might look... if you were running an expansion team. We are not an expansion team.

 

[King Weber]

Everyone cleared waivers except Dahlstrom and Comrie.

 

[Armourboy]

Evander Kane starting the season off right with a 3 game suspension.

 

[triggrman]

Evander Kane starting the season off right with a 3 game suspension.

He's lucky he only got the minimal amount.

 

[Armourboy]

He's lucky he only got the minimal amount.

The only reason he did is that the Ref stumbled and took him down. It is basically the NHL's way of saying the Refs actions played a part in it. If the Ref had have just grabbed him and then he did it I have no doubt he would of gotten more.

 

[hockey diva]

St. Louis Blues defending Stanley Cup champions
Insert barfing emoticon.

 

[FossilFndr]

I find myself already hoping both of those teams lose.

 

[Legionnaire11]

Surprised Washington came back, held on and won. Their defense was kind of shaky all night, only Carlson and Orlov really looked like quality NHL defenders, a big difference from their Cup winning pairs. But Ovechkin was ready for this season to start, still so dangerous.

Faulk fit right in for St. Louis, I felt like he's been very underrated for a while on HF as a side effect of being involved in so many trade rumors. Not the greatest in his own end, but no slouch either and he can really move the puck.

Now VGK-SJS is a game where I hope the building implodes!

 

[drwpreds]

Surprised Washington came back, held on and won. Their defense was kind of shaky all night, only Carlson and Orlov really looked like quality NHL defenders, a big difference from their Cup winning pairs. But Ovechkin was ready for this season to start, still so dangerous.

I don't know- after St. Louis early flurry, I thought the Caps were the better team- the Blues only had 22 shots on goal in over 60 minutes.

 

[Armourboy]

Both Ottawa and St. Louis scored in the first minute and both lost. So much for getting off to a fast start.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

The Knights are going to be so good.

 

[Scoresberg]

The Knights are going to be so good.

Yep, I have them coming out of the West this year.

They're very good from top to bottom and they play in a weak division, they can rest their top guys whereas Central's going to be a dogfight.

 

[Mass]

8 years, 6.5 AAV for Schenn. 6.5 isn't bad but 8 years for a 28 year old of Schenn's caliber seems questionable.

 

[JustaFinnishGuy]

8 years, 6.5 AAV for Schenn. 6.5 isn't bad but 8 years for a 28 year old of Schenn's caliber seems questionable.

It's not questionable, it's terrible.
Good thing for them is that they paid for his prime not his latter years. Those are the years I believe they had to pay to keep him.

 

[Armourboy]

Last 4 years are basically to keep the AAV down. Essentially you know by year 5 its probably going to stink.

 

[Pr0fet]

Well, we do have 2 x 28 year olds att 7/8 Years X 8/6,25 Mill ourselves and looking to sign så 30 year old at 8 Years X 9-10 mill next summer.

 

[predfan24]

8 years, 6.5 AAV for Schenn. 6.5 isn't bad but 8 years for a 28 year old of Schenn's caliber seems questionable.

Questionable for a 60 point center? We gave 8 million over 8 years to a 60 point center. We gave Ellis 8 years in his late 20s. Duchene got 8 years and he turns 29 this season.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Schenn is 2 years younger than Turris? I guess I'd rather have 8x$6.5M for Schenn than 6x$6M for Turris, then. If we needed a center, anyway (which of course we don't). But Schenn scores as well or better than Turris and plays a heavier game. I mean, I wouldn't have offered Schenn that contract either. But we're in a bit of a glass house here lately to be sure...

 

[OldFan]

Well, we do have 2 x 28 year olds att 7/8 Years X 8/6,25 Mill ourselves and looking to sign så 30 year old at 8 Years X 9-10 mill next summer.

Current contract signings have set unreasonable standards. Everybody wants what everybody else got. The prices are inflated and the term out of sight. Mediocre to very good players are now getting superstar salaries and terms. It is going to lead to labor problems again. Owners just cannot hold the line on reasonable salary budgets out of fear of being outdone. Then the agents begin to promise the players similar big bucks. For us fans, it’ll all come crashing down in the near future. So sad.

 

[Mass]

Questionable for a 60 point center? We gave 8 million over 8 years to a 60 point center. We gave Ellis 8 years in his late 20s. Duchene got 8 years and he turns 29 this season.

Couple of things here. Ryan Johansen's current contract kicked in when he was 25, 29 for Schenn. Point production, Johansen was a 60 point center 4 seasons at the time of the extension (not to mention a 1C for a number of seasons), Schenn 1 season at 60 and 1 season at the 1C and back at the 2C spot now.

Ellis and Duchene are closer comparables though, especially Duchene. But I think the argument could be made considering the differences in both play styles, and position, Schenn's contract will not age well, which concludes when he is 36. 36 for Ellis, 33 for Johansen, 35 for Duchene. That's some extra term for guy that likes to throw the body.

 

[Soundgarden]

Subban debut with the Devils about to begin.

 

[predfan24]

Couple of things here. Ryan Johansen's current contract kicked in when he was 25, 29 for Schenn. Point production, Johansen was a 60 point center 4 seasons at the time of the extension (not to mention a 1C for a number of seasons), Schenn 1 season at 60 and 1 season at the 1C and back at the 2C spot now.

Ellis and Duchene are closer comparables though, especially Duchene. But I think the argument could be made considering the differences in both play styles, and position, Schenn's contract will not age well, which concludes when he is 36. 36 for Ellis, 33 for Johansen, 35 for Duchene. That's some extra term for guy that likes to throw the body.

Joey's contract taking up more of his prime years is reflected in the AAV. 8 vs 6.5 for Schenn. Schenn became a 60pt guy starting in 15-16. Since that time Schenn is at .76ppg; Joey .74ppg. Look, I get Joey's contract ate up more of his prime years and when Joey received that contract he was somewhat getting paid for what people thought he might be after his 63 and 71pt seasons with CBJ, but the bottom line is right now they are both 60pt players. Joey and Duchene are better than Schenn, but it's not a big difference.

Fair point about his physical style of play. I'm sure they didn't want to give him 8 years. The Blues had to do what the Preds and pretty much any other contender has to do. Give out long term contracts to somewhat "aging" core players so they can keep their AAV down and contend for as long as possible. Preds did it with Ellis, Duchene, and soon to be Josi. In a few years they will have to potentially do for Ekholm and Forsberg. Sucks but it's the price of trying to win.

 

[Soundgarden]

Winnipeg getting their butts handed to them by NJ, nice to see.