Around the NHL #17, the 18/19 on-season

[Johnny Hoxville]

My guess, Johnson, Foote, 1st, 1st.

 

[crackdown44]

Baffling.

Surely they're not going to torpedo EK's value by anchoring Ryan to him in a trade?

Mark Stone filed for salary arbitration. They don’t want to pay anyone

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Mark Stone filed for salary arbitration. They don’t want to pay anyone

I think he’s doing his best to get out of there.

 

[Lunatik]

I think he’s doing his best to get out of there.

yes, guarantees a 1 year deal

 

[1989]

The best reason to keep Michael Stone is to get Mark here.

 

[crackdown44]

The best reason to keep Michael Stone is to get Mark here.

1) Play Neal with Gaudreau and Monahan this year to pump his value through the roof

2) Trade Neal in summer for a massive overpayment

3) Sign Mark Stone so he can play with his brother

4) Trade Michael Stone for a conditional 7th

5) profit???

 

[DCDM]

Oilers re-sign Strome, 2 years 3.1M AAV

What kind of deal is that? Has Strome done anything to earn that? Does this impact how much Lindholm asks for?

 

[Mobiandi]

 

[Anglesmith]

Oilers re-sign Strome, 2 years 3.1M AAV

What kind of deal is that? Has Strome done anything to earn that? Does this impact how much Lindholm asks for?

I think this is a good thing for the Flames.

Strome had a 50 point season with the Islanders, and aside from that is a 35-point player historically. He got $3.1M. Lindholm also has proven nothing, has never had a 50 point season, and is a 45-point player historically. Should come in around $4M.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me. 34 points last year, has a good track record including a 50 point season.

 

[Janks]

I think this is a good thing for the Flames.

Strome had a 50 point season with the Islanders, and aside from that is a 35-point player historically. He got $3.1M. Lindholm also has proven nothing, has never had a 50 point season, and is a 45-point player historically. Should come in around $4M.

Agreed with this. I think this benchmarks Lindholm around 3.5-4.5 which works for me. Not the best deal for the Oilers, especially considering Eberle was at 6M so they don’t see much cap relief for the trade.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

4.5 x 6 years, get it done Tre!

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

4.5 x 6 years, get it done Tre!

I think it will be slightly more expensive but this is what I’m hoping for

 

[CamPopplestone]

Lindholm will have higher value and AAV because we also want him long term, not just 2 years

 

[1989]

Lindholm will have higher value and AAV because we also want him long term, not just 2 years

Usually AAV is lessened with fewer years on the contract… assuming the player wants to stay.

 

[CamPopplestone]

Usually AAV is lessened with fewer years on the contract… assuming the player wants to stay.

To a degree. But not if you're buying a bunch of UFA years

 

[Lunatik]

Kucherov signs a 8 x 9.5 extension

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Man that Wotherspoon pick in 2011 looks bad with a bunch of hindsight eh?

 

[Fig]

Man that Wotherspoon pick in 2011 looks bad with a bunch of hindsight eh?

Maybe... but management told Button one of Kucherov or Gaudreau. Not both. So we ended up ok.

 

[Anglesmith]

Maybe... but management told Button one of Kucherov or Gaudreau. Not both. So we ended up ok.

Not sure where you got this from; it isn't what I heard. I read the article that said they had both Kucherov and Gaudreau unranked on their lists because they thought they were going to be good, but also thought they would fall to later rounds. If they knew that another team would take Kucherov in the second round, they would have taken him there as far as I can tell. They just expected both guys to fall to their later picks.

 

[DCDM]

Not sure where you got this from; it isn't what I heard. I read the article that said they had both Kucherov and Gaudreau unranked on their lists because they thought they were going to be good, but also thought they would fall to later rounds. If they knew that another team would take Kucherov in the second round, they would have taken him there as far as I can tell. They just expected both guys to fall to their later picks.

I thought it was Kucherov being taken earlier than anticipated that led to them taking Gaudreau when they did.

 

[Kahvi]

I'm sure Flames would have taken Gaudreau anyway, they tried so hard to not give anyone any idea they were interested in him. There was a really good story posted here maybe a year ago about that.

 

[DCDM]

I'm sure Flames would have taken Gaudreau anyway, they tried so hard to not give anyone any idea they were interested in him. There was a really good story posted here maybe a year ago about that.

For sure, I just think they were willing to wait longer to take Johnny until Kucherov got taken and they got antsy.

 

[Fig]

Not sure where you got this from; it isn't what I heard. I read the article that said they had both Kucherov and Gaudreau unranked on their lists because they thought they were going to be good, but also thought they would fall to later rounds. If they knew that another team would take Kucherov in the second round, they would have taken him there as far as I can tell. They just expected both guys to fall to their later picks.

Q&A - TOD BUTTON

Jay (Feaster) had said we were going to take Johnny or the Tampa guy, (Nikita) Kucherov. Two guys, we'll take them where we see fit.

It's possible I'm misreading this quote, but to me it seemed like one or the other. There might have been another interview that mentioned it again in a similar way that Feaster didn't feel they could "waste" two picks on two long shots. But in all seriousness, did management actually think both Kucherov and Gaudreau would be available in the 4th round for them to pluck? I don't think so. I think it was literally one or the other that draft and I'll have to dig later to see where I read a comment that hinted at the idea that Feaster wasn't willing to spend two picks on two wild cards.

 

[Volica]

Who needs Kucherov when you have Ty Wotherspoon. Amirite?