Around the League: 2019 Offseason

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Stumbled across this on YouTube - John Scott is a good storyteller and this is a funny one.

 

[DFAC]

Still don't understand why the Hawks did that trade.... Jokiharju is a lock to be a top 4 dman whereas Alex Nylander is ???

 

[PecaFan]

Does anyone know of a stat site that breaks down player scoring into nhl quarters?

IE, J. Blow, 1Q: 21GP, 5g, 10a, 15pts, 2q: 18GP, 2g, 6a, 8pts...

Some sites do the before/after All Star game, which I think is useless because they're so unbalanced game number wise.

 

[xtra]

Hockey reference
For example pettersson scored 15 of his 66 points or just over 22% vs the flames and blues.

Elias Pettersson 2018-19 Splits | Hockey-Reference.com

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Lots of odd rumours coming out of Winnipeg...Laine definitely marches to the beat of his own drum, and it doesn't sound like it sits that well with the team.

 

[VanillaCoke]

I definitely would've been shopping Laine for a haul, he's a one trick pony that looks spectacular to bad GM'S

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I definitely would've been shopping Laine for a haul, he's a one trick pony that looks spectacular to bad GM'S

A one trick pony that only knows how to score goals

What a terrible player

 

[VanillaCoke]

A one trick pony that only knows how to score goals

What a terrible player

Only one to say anything about "terrible" is you.

 

[MS]

I definitely would've been shopping Laine for a haul, he's a one trick pony that looks spectacular to bad GM'S

He was spectacular in 17-18. 2nd in NHL in goals as a teenager. Looked like another Ovechkin.

Then last year he was probably the worst ES player in the NHL amongst guys getting top-9 minutes.

The question is how much of that was due to a lingering back injury that apparently troubled him all year and how much is due to Fortnite and other off-ice stuff.

If he can return to the form he showed in his first 2 years, he’s an absolute elite player.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Only one to say anything about "terrible" is you.

“One trick pony that looks spectacular to bad GM” but okay

 

[timw33]

He was spectacular in 17-18. 2nd in NHL in goals as a teenager. Looked like another Ovechkin.

Then last year he was probably the worst ES player in the NHL amongst guys getting top-9 minutes.

The question is how much of that was due to a lingering back injury that apparently troubled him all year and how much is due to Fortnite and other off-ice stuff.

If he can return to the form he showed in his first 2 years, he’s an absolute elite player.

What's completely ****ed about him is that even when he's kind of gliding around he can still knock out a hat trick without breaking a sweat. One of those frustrating players who would legitimately be a top-5 player in the league if he had a motor.

 

[Fire Benning]

There definitely seems to be a 'type' of player who lacks commitment despite being supremely talented, you have to wonder if maybe Laine is that type, I'd still bet on him becoming a generational goal scorer though.

 

[MS]

What's completely ****ed about him is that even when he's kind of gliding around he can still knock out a hat trick without breaking a sweat. One of those frustrating players who would legitimately be a top-5 player in the league if he had a motor.

The fact that he scored 18 goals in one 12-game stretch last year and 12 goals in the other 70 games is one of the craziest hockey stats I’ve ever seen.

 

[Melvin]

The fact that he scored 18 goals in one 12-game stretch last year and 12 goals in the other 70 games is one of the craziest hockey stats I’ve ever seen.

I was going to say 30 goals is probably the lowest total for someone who had 5 in one game, but apparently Mike Ricci did the same thing in 1994. Mike Ricci scored five in a game!

 

[krutovsdonut]

Lots of odd rumours coming out of Winnipeg...Laine definitely marches to the beat of his own drum, and it doesn't sound like it sits that well with the team.

i think laine wants to be moved to a big market team.

but it is interesting to look back on laine/juolevi/puljujarvi as this golden finnish trio, and wonder how it has turned out they all seem to have mental issues.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Dzingel to Carolina for two years is an absolute steal. I can't believe Edmonton wasn't all over that, committing more money to Granlund + Chiasson. He'd be the perfect supporting linemate for McDavid.

 

[krutovsdonut]

just looked at calgary's cap situation. they have a serious problem. i think it might cost them hamonic or brodie.

if only they weren't in our division.

 

[MS]

I was going to say 30 goals is probably the lowest total for someone who had 5 in one game, but apparently Mike Ricci did the same thing in 1994. Mike Ricci scored five in a game!

I vaguely remember that! As a Nordique IIRC.

Dzingel to Carolina for two years is an absolute steal. I can't believe Edmonton wasn't all over that, committing more money to Granlund + Chiasson. He'd be the perfect supporting linemate for McDavid.

The Dzingel and Johansson contracts really highlight the overpayment in term to Ferland.

 

[Fire Benning]

Dzingel to Carolina for two years is an absolute steal. I can't believe Edmonton wasn't all over that, committing more money to Granlund + Chiasson. He'd be the perfect supporting linemate for McDavid.

I can’t believe Edmonton basically did nothing for the 2nd summer in a row. Their most notable add was f***ing Granlund lol

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

from friedman—

“Laine is a whole big discussion right because he’s the one guy who seems to want a short bridge (contract) of all these guys. He didn’t leave happy last year and we’ve talked about this, some of that was his own fault, he wasn’t as good as he could be and I think he chafed under some of the leadership there. The guys at the top of that food chain are hard driving guys. They expect you to buy into the program and I think that they felt he didn’t buy in enough and I think he felt that some of the things that they wanted were ridiculous. So you got to bridge that too.”

31 Thoughts Podcast: Why Kadri vetoed a trade to Calgary – Sportsnet.ca


hmm, evander kane, had his stuff thrown into the shower by byfuglien. trouba, wanted to leave for reasons. now laine.

idk, i don't think those young guys are blameless or anything but that's a lot of talent leaving to presumably protect a culture that has won what exactly?

 

[FroshaugFan2]

just looked at calgary's cap situation. they have a serious problem. i think it might cost them hamonic or brodie.

if only they weren't in our division.

That Neal contract is just dreadful.

If they can pay another team to take that contract, then they'll be in a pretty good position. Gaudreau, Monahan, and Lindholm all have steals of cap hits.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I can’t believe Edmonton basically did nothing for the 2nd summer in a row. Their most notable add was ****ing Granlund lol

Well, when you're that good, just keeping everyone together is an achievement

 

[Fuimus]

I vaguely remember that! As a Nordique IIRC.



The Dzingel and Johansson contracts really highlight the overpayment in term to Ferland.

Way to be selective. It's like you have some sort of agenda.

Below is what I consider to to the most comparable players signed this offseason:

Alex Kerfoot 4 years at 3.5M (similar stats and usage as Ferland)
Brett Connoly 4 years at 3.5M (worse stats but didn't have as high quality of linemates)
Joonas Donskoi 4 years at 3.9M (slightly worse stats but didn't have as high quality of linemates)

And Ferlands contract is definitely not one of the worse offseason contracts like Brandon Tanev 6 years at 3.5M

 

[MS]

Way to be selective. It's like you have some sort of agenda.

Below is what I consider to to the most comparable players signed this offseason:

Alex Kerfoot 4 years at 3.5M (similar stats and usage as Ferland)
Brett Connoly 4 years at 3.5M (worse stats but didn't have as high quality of linemates)
Joonas Donskoi 4 years at 3.9M (slightly worse stats but didn't have as high quality of linemates)

And Ferlands contract is definitely not one of the worse offseason contracts like Brandon Tanev 6 years at 3.5M

Kerfoot was an RFA. Complete different thing.

Connolly is a better player with better numbers with worse linemates.

That Donskoi contract is not amazing.

Also the context changes once you’re dealing with the leftovers who didn’t sign on July 1. That they’re still on the market indicates there was little other interest and the leverage these players had to get term is gone.

 

[timw33]

I vaguely remember that! As a Nordique IIRC.



The Dzingel and Johansson contracts really highlight the overpayment in term to Ferland.

Secondary market has been very interesting this year, lot's of tightened belts with the lower than expected cap and RFA extensions costing more and more, and teams needing to earmark more dollars to allocate for upcoming star RFAs that can't overcommit on term.

Really like the Dzingel deal, term is awesome, and he's been a fantastic ES performer. The trade protection on Ferland is just ughhh.