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Satans Hockey

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Ah yes those two great seasons, one where we finished 2 games over 500 and still finished 7th out of 8th in the division. The other was Hall having a once in a lifetime season by carrying that team on his back to just barely squeak into the playoffs.
 
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people on reddit (and here, admittedly) seem to conflate the idea of being a well liked coach and being a good coach

i'm convinced hynes is an excellent human being (or lizard), and his ideas made sense to the players, but they just weren't good ideas. perhaps his ideas required different personnel. my guess is he'll still employ his overpinching dman strat, but it'll work better in nashville
 

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Ah yes those two great seasons, one where we finished 2 games over 500 and still finished 7th out of 8th in the division. The other was Hall having a once in a lifetime season by carrying that team on his back to just barely squeak into the playoffs.

Those were both great seasons in the context in which they were accomplished. Again, you can judge the Devils of this era by how their players are doing with other teams. Are there players from those Devils teams flourishing elsewhere? Hall's doing okay so far in Arizona, but obviously we need some time to see what he is outside of New Jersey. Henrique might be having his career season but he's basically the same player he always was. Jon Merrill is playing so well for the Golden Knights that they moved him to forward for a game. John Moore's a 3rd pairing/7th D. Boyle's a 4th line C. Noesen and Gibbons and Blandisi are call-ups; so is Santini. Hynes got the most out of those teams in those years.
 

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Those were both great seasons in the context in which they were accomplished. Again, you can judge the Devils of this era by how their players are doing with other teams. Are there players from those Devils teams flourishing elsewhere? Hall's doing okay so far in Arizona, but obviously we need some time to see what he is outside of New Jersey. Henrique might be having his career season but he's basically the same player he always was. Jon Merrill is playing so well for the Golden Knights that they moved him to forward for a game. John Moore's a 3rd pairing/7th D. Boyle's a 4th line C. Noesen and Gibbons and Blandisi are call-ups; so is Santini. Hynes got the most out of those teams in those years.

The only thing that 2 games over 500 season accomplished was wasting my time and money.

If anything the team regressed the next season with what I would argue at the very least is the same quality of roster even not slightly better.

The season we made the playoffs had more to do with Hall than it ever did with Hynes. Hall had a once in a career type season that he won't duplicate. Do you really think Hynes deserves credit for Hall carrying the team on his back? I don't.
 
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Hynes is an awful coach. He didn’t squeeze anything out of the rosters he had. For the most part they played as would be expected at best, or below expectations like the last two seasons at worst. The only exception maybe being the playoff year went Hall put in an MVP performance. People here have short memories about this stuff, but that team was pathetically mediocre outside of the hot start and end to the season, where Hall and Kinkaid were the biggest factors.

On the flip side, I don’t understand the appeal of Lavi. He’s had success in the past sure, but his recent results have been underwhelming and he doesn’t seem like a good fit for the type of team we have. I could be totally wrong, I’ll give him a chance if Ray hires him, but I’m not clamoring to bring him onboard.
 

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The only thing that 2 games over 500 season accomplished was wasting my time and money.

I mean, you bought tickets to a team that finished with 78 points the previous season and added no significant players besides Kyle Palmieri. I don't think that's Hynes's fault.

If anything the team regressed the next season with what I would argue at the very least is the same quality of roster even not slightly better.

The season we made the playoffs had more to do with Hall than it ever did with Hynes. Hall had a once in a career type season that he won't duplicate. Do you really think Hynes deserves credit for Hall carrying the team on his back? I don't.

If you think one player alone can make a team, you should check out the Oilers last two seasons or Pittsburgh's first few seasons (or last few) with Mario Lemieux. It takes more than an incredible player to make the playoffs, and yeah, Hynes helped.
 

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I mean, you bought tickets to a team that finished with 78 points the previous season and added no significant players besides Kyle Palmieri. I don't think that's Hynes's fault.



If you think one player alone can make a team, you should check out the Oilers last two seasons or Pittsburgh's first few seasons (or last few) with Mario Lemieux. It takes more than an incredible player to make the playoffs, and yeah, Hynes helped.

I would have had tickets either way so that's besides the point just completely disagree that season was "good season" because we finished 2 games over 500. I absolutely hated watching that team that year.

Whats Hynes excuse for this current season? Somehow Nas is getting way more out of the same people than he did.

I just don't think Hynes is a good coach and we'll see soon enough if he is or not now that he's in Nashville. If he turns them around I don't have a problem admitting it, I don't care if I end up being wrong because either way I'm just happy he's not here.
 
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Hynes is an awful coach. He didn’t squeeze anything out of the rosters he had. For the most part they played as would be expected at best, or below expectations like the last two seasons at worst. The only exception maybe being the playoff year went Hall put in an MVP performance. People here have short memories about this stuff, but that team was pathetically mediocre outside of the hot start and end to the season, where Hall and Kinkaid were the biggest factors.

This is the part of your post I gave you a "like" on.

On the flip side, I don’t understand the appeal of Lavi. He’s had success in the past sure, but his recent results have been underwhelming and he doesn’t seem like a good fit for the type of team we have. I could be totally wrong, I’ll give him a chance if Ray hires him, but I’m not clamoring to bring him onboard.

The appeal is he's got the NHL resume and history to, at the very least, make this Devils team better than it currently is.

At least that's the appeal he holds for myself, anyway. :dunno:
 

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I would have had tickets either way so that's besides the point just completely disagree that season was "good season" because we finished 2 games over 500. I absolutely hated watching that team that year.

I just don't think Hynes is a good coach and we'll see soon enough if he is or not now that he's in Nashville. Either way, I'm just happy he's not here.

The personnel were awful. Hynes (and Schneider, and the top line) dragged every point possible out of that team. Of course watching it sucked - there were like 5 good players. That's precisely the point.

I don't think Hynes is that great either, but certainly a lot of people here thought he would never get hired as an NHL head coach again.
 

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The personnel were awful. Hynes (and Schneider, and the top line) dragged every point possible out of that team. Of course watching it sucked - there were like 5 good players. That's precisely the point.

I don't think Hynes is that great either, but certainly a lot of people here thought he would never get hired as an NHL head coach again.

I updated my post before you quoted me but basically I'm just happy he's not here.

This current season is the only one I actually blame Hynes for blowing. I think that's when he showed he really isn't a good coach. Especially with Nas getting more out of this roster now it further shows it. I don't place the blame solely on him for the past seasons but I think he was definitely more part of the problem than a solution.

If Hynes works out in Nashville I'll admit I was wrong, I don't care about being right or wrong I'm just thrilled that we don't have to see Hynes coach this team anymore.
 
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I am floored that Poile could be so brain-dead....:laugh:

I mean...he goes from Trotz, then Lavi....all the way down to scraping the bottom of the barrel with Hynes?!?! :snide::snide::snide:

Someone queue up the GIF of Stevens saying "You're next." And I mean you. Next coach of the Predators.
 
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Getting hired again doesn’t automatically mean he’s a good coach. GM’s do dumbass shit all the time. I’m going to assume that’s the case here until Hynes proves me wrong.
 

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Lot of people have to walk back how Hynes would never get hired anywhere.
Could anyone really see it coming this fast though? I figured maybe they’d hire DeBoer.

No matter what, I don’t think even the staunchest Hynes supporter would have predicted him getting a head coaching job midseason.
 
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Satans Hockey

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Lmfao...

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Could anyone really see it coming this fast though? I figured maybe they’d hire DeBoer.

No matter what, I don’t think even the staunchest Hynes supporter would have predicted him getting a head coaching job midseason.

I agree that it's surprising he got hired mid-season. I don't think it's that surprising that he got hired somewhere, though.
 
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