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Camille the Eel

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As to Buffalo - it doesn't seem appropriate to praise them on our post game thread, and the moderators may move this, and with the caveat that two games are no more a valid sample for them than for us, but . . .

as to Buffalo, they sure looked gangbusters last night and some of that belongs to them and isn't on us.

Dahlin looks like the real thing, he's positionally sound, dominant on the puck, a superior skater, almost impossible to handle and allows Ristolainen to play a second pairing role he's more suited to.

Then that guy Olafsson's two shots were lasers. Time will tell how good he is but last night was as impressive a debut as you will see, as impressive as Bratt was a couple of years ago. Blackwood didn't react until the pucks were past him.

Plus that new coach, Kreueger - straight out of both European Hockey and Football (soccer). He's a perfect systems guy because both European sports - especially soccer - are position games. Watch Barcelona or the German Bundesliga teams (where Kreuger comes from) play soccer. The ball goes to a spot, the man goes to the spot. That's the name of the game. Canadians are basically chaotic and individualistic psychologically in comparison.

Finally Eichel, dipsy doodling and the (again laser) cross ice passes. Plus the release on his own shot is very fast and the shot is very powerful. If Reinhardt and Middlestadt grow (as they appear to be doing) this club can be very hard to handle.

I like Buffalo in principle. It's one of the best hockey towns in North America because that's all it is pro sports wise and it's as Canadian as a US location can be. Queen of the Rust Belt too. In 1900 like the 5th most populous city in the US, Erie Canal, gateway to the West. I've no bad feelings for the Sabers a priori and I'll certainly be rooting for them against Boston and Toronto.
 

Billdo

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Sarcasm my man, sarcasm

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glenwo2

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As to Buffalo - it doesn't seem appropriate to praise them on our post game thread, and the moderators may move this, and with the caveat that two games are no more a valid sample for them than for us, but . . .

as to Buffalo, they sure looked gangbusters last night and some of that belongs to them and isn't on us.

Dahlin looks like the real thing, he's positionally sound, dominant on the puck, a superior skater, almost impossible to handle and allows Ristolainen to play a second pairing role he's more suited to.

Then that guy Olafsson's two shots were lasers. Time will tell how good he is but last night was as impressive a debut as you will see, as impressive as Bratt was a couple of years ago. Blackwood didn't react until the pucks were past him.

Plus that new coach, Kreueger - straight out of both European Hockey and Football (soccer). He's a perfect systems guy because both European sports - especially soccer - are position games. Watch Barcelona or the German Bundesliga teams (where Kreuger comes from) play soccer. The ball goes to a spot, the man goes to the spot. That's the name of the game. Canadians are basically chaotic and individualistic psychologically in comparison.

Finally Eichel, dipsy doodling and the (again laser) cross ice passes. Plus the release on his own shot is very fast and the shot is very powerful. If Reinhardt and Middlestadt grow (as they appear to be doing) this club can be very hard to handle.

I like Buffalo in principle. It's one of the best hockey towns in North America because that's all it is pro sports wise and it's as Canadian as a US location can be. Queen of the Rust Belt too. In 1900 like the 5th most populous city in the US, Erie Canal, gateway to the West. I've no bad feelings for the Sabres a priori and I'll certainly be rooting for them against Boston and Toronto.

I said it before in the postgame thread and I'll say it here :


How many seasons has Buffalo had where they won a couple of games here and there to start the season and then slowly drifted out of a playoff spot by Thanksgiving?

There is no reason to believe that the Sabres will end up any different this year.

The Sabres beat the Devils because the Devils beat themselves via No Structure, Bad Coaching, Bad Defense and Bad Goaltending.

That's the bottom line.

EDIT : You could give credit for them TAKING ADVANTAGE of the Devils sucking ass so there's that for "Damning Faint praise". :dunno:
 

Camille the Eel

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I said it before in the postgame thread and I'll say it here :


How many seasons has Buffalo had where they won a couple of games here and there to start the season and then slowly drifted out of a playoff spot by Thanksgiving?

There is no reason to believe that the Sabres will end up any different this year.

The Sabres beat the Devils because the Devils beat themselves via No Structure, Bad Coaching, Bad Defense and Bad Goaltending.

That's the bottom line.

EDIT : You could give credit for them TAKING ADVANTAGE of the Devils sucking ass so there's that for "Damning Faint praise". :dunno:
Keep an eye on them, that’s all. We sucked. But maybe they are better than you think. They won the 10 straight last year, then tanked. Maybe some of it was a dress rehearsal for this season. Which: the 10 straight or the tanking? They have one piece we’d love to have - Rasmus Dahlin. If they succeed in their division and against anyone but us, I won’t be sorry. Like them better than Boston or the Leafs.
 

sabremike

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I said it before in the postgame thread and I'll say it here :


How many seasons has Buffalo had where they won a couple of games here and there to start the season and then slowly drifted out of a playoff spot by Thanksgiving?

There is no reason to believe that the Sabres will end up any different this year.

The Sabres beat the Devils because the Devils beat themselves via No Structure, Bad Coaching, Bad Defense and Bad Goaltending.

That's the bottom line.

EDIT : You could give credit for them TAKING ADVANTAGE of the Devils sucking ass so there's that for "Damning Faint praise". :dunno:
Well for starters we are no longer coached by someone who was literally a below average high school coach.
 

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I can only imagine Ottawa thinks they can spin him at the deadline for a better return?


They're going to have trouble reaching the floor next season. Maybe he's the guy they keep and try to sign long-term.

I doubt they gave up much for him, and I doubt they will get much for him at the deadline.
 

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Looks like they gave up Nick Ebert and a 2021 4th rounder for him. So I guess we'll see if he's worth a 2020 3rd to anybody around the deadline. Ottawa signed Ebert, formerly highly touted NJ born prospect, back in June and he only played in one official game for the organization.
 

JrFischer54

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I said it before in the postgame thread and I'll say it here :


How many seasons has Buffalo had where they won a couple of games here and there to start the season and then slowly drifted out of a playoff spot by Thanksgiving?

There is no reason to believe that the Sabres will end up any different this year.

The Sabres beat the Devils because the Devils beat themselves via No Structure, Bad Coaching, Bad Defense and Bad Goaltending.

That's the bottom line.

EDIT : You could give credit for them TAKING ADVANTAGE of the Devils sucking ass so there's that for "Damning Faint praise". :dunno:

yes so because Buffalo always loses this year they will lose. Just like the blues always lose so they will o wait
 
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Wasn't Namestnikov supposed to be a shrewd pickup for the Rags?
 

guitarguyvic

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yes so because Buffalo always loses this year they will lose. Just like the blues always lose so they will o wait
Comparing the Blues to the Sabres. One is a perennial playoff team that previously just couldn't get over the playoff hump; the other has been a mismanaged basement dweller for nearly a decade.
Yikes.
 

JrFischer54

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Comparing the Blues to the Sabres. One is a perennial playoff team that previously just couldn't get over the playoff hump; the other has been a mismanaged basement dweller for nearly a decade.
Yikes.

so then yes you are saying that buffalo WILL ALWAYS be losers because thats what they have always been? thats a little more YIKES imo lol
 

NJDevs26

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so then yes you are saying that buffalo WILL ALWAYS be losers because thats what they have always been? thats a little more YIKES imo lol

You could use that same reasoning for any team and eventually be right, even if it takes 10-20-30 years. But I fall in the school of you gotta show it to me for a full season first before I assume it’s not Same Old for a bad organization and likewise I have to see a Penguins crater before I think they’ll be a non playoff team even though it’s trending in that direction. Some organizations deserve benefit of the doubt and others deserve skepticism based on track record. People thought it was a new Buffalo team after their fluke nine game win streak last year too, how did that end up?

I do find it ironic you’re in the camp of don’t assume bad organizations are still bad yet were the biggest skeptic of Vegas based on expansion teams always being bad. So you used precedent (not even of that organization) to be skeptical there.
 
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Camille the Eel

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So on the coaching angle in Buffalo the question is will Kreuger, some new players and the continued growth of some other youngsters (Reinhardt, Middlestadt, Dahlin, Eichel) make a significant difference in Buffalo this year?

There are certainly still big questions about their goaltending but I expect them to be improved. Not bottom dwellers but a bubble team, maybe at least competing for a wildcard spot. Only two or three games in though so not really a lot to go on.
 
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Brodeur

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Sharks bring back Marleau for one year @ 700K. I still find it amusing that Marleau gets a slight pay raise out of the whole debacle. He was due 4.25 mil (3 mil in bonuses, 1.25 in salary) for the final season of his contract. The buyout from Carolina nets him ~3.833 million and his salary with the Sharks bumps that up about 4.533. His agent did good work on that one.
 
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