Around the League 2017-18

[bustamente]

Should we ditch Maurice and grab Trotz? He could be inclined to come home to Winnipeg.

Trotz looking for big coin contract and we supposedly have the coach to lead us to the promised land.

 

[sipowicz]

oh, sweet, sweet Sip...
re-sign vs resign

Trotz resigns and then Mo resigns and then Trotz signs here and later re-signs.....or something like that...

 

[HannuJ]

hfboards Winnipeg Jets' posters: "Boy, the San Jose Sharks must be cruising for locker room problems by signing Evander Kane to that long-term high-money contract!"
Doug Wilson: "Hold my beer, will ya?"

 

[robertocarlos]

Sharks eat all the chum.

 

[mondo3]

Seems like the Sharks have it like this: goal scoring > character

 

[Whileee]

It's a good deal for the Sharks if the character issues don't bite them. Boedker isn't terrible, and Bergman has some potential as a RD. Also, Sens save almost $2.7M in actual salary, which is key for that franchise.

 

[Maukkis]

Are the Sens going for the Vegas strategy of 'no one will expect us to do anything, so we'll actually do well'?

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Are the Sens going for the Vegas strategy of 'no one will expect us to do anything, so we'll actually do well'?

They are going for the number 1 overall pick in 2019....for Colorado

 

[Whileee]

They are going for the number 1 overall pick in 2019....for Colorado

More and more I wonder if the Sens plan to trade Karlsson and pick up extra picks this year and next, and then trade the #4 this year.

Here's another thought... What if the Sens trade down from #4 to about #6 or #7 this season for an extra pick or prospect, and then ask the Avs if they would trade their 2019 pick back to the Sens for the #6 or #7 overall? It would give the Avs a choice between taking a sure #6 or #7, over the chance of a top-3 next year. However, weird things happen in the NHL and the Sens could out-perform expectations next season and the pick could be lower than a #6-7. Also, Avs might value a pick now, over a pick in a year from now.

 

[HannuJ]

More and more I wonder if the Sens plan to trade Karlsson and pick up extra picks this year and next, and then trade the #4 this year.

sens are going for a master plan.
gut the franchise. go for the rebuild.
attendance will fall.
they will want a new arena. won't get it.
then they'll look at moving the team to Quebec City.

it's pretty gross and transparent.

 

[mcpw]

Mike Hoffman sure gets traded a lot.

 

[Maukkis]

Seems like the Sharks have it like this: goal scoring > character

Also, reacting to HF panic > actually sticking to the plan

 

[MardyBum]

I feel for Sens fans. Jesus what a mess. Hoffman flipped back into their division. Hopefully Boedker works out.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Ssshhh... Don't let Bergevin know. I think he just traded for Domi to be his #1 C.

Having previously traded for Drouin to be 1C.

 

[JetsUK]

Seems like the Sharks have it like this: goal scoring > character

Well, sharks are opportunists. Maybe it's time for the NHL to put their heads together and launch their version of the Chivalric Rule, stipulating that goals may only be scored by the pure of heart.

I feel for Sens fans. Every day another body blow. They're gonna be punch-drunk by Canada Day.

 

[DRW204]

sharks got a 2nd and cap space for their cap dump
panthers got a 1st line winger for their 2nd
sens got a cap dump for their 1st line winger​

 

[mondo3]

Given that Ottawa got very little in return, in hindsight would anyone here have taken Hoffman for Armia straight up?

 

[Whileee]

2017/18 5v5 points/60...

Hoffman 1.44
Boedker 1.86

The Jets had 10 regular forwards with higher scoring rates 5v5 than Hoffman, including Copp and Armia. Tanev wasn't far behind Hoffman at 1.41.

None of these figures are "girlfriend-adjusted".

 

[Whileee]

Given that Ottawa got very little in return, in hindsight would anyone here have taken Hoffman for Armia straight up?

Not a chance.

Armia had better metrics 5v5 in...

Scoring
Corsi
xGF

He's much less expensive.

Hoffman was basically a PP specialist, and Armia is more of a PK specialist. The Jets have plenty of fire-power for their PP.

 

[Maukkis]

Jesus, did Ottawa ever get spun. We're talking 360s here.

A guy producing at a rate of a first-line forward got traded twice in an hour, and somehow one team got a set of picks for said guy, while the other currently has a middle six winger making too much money to show for him. Not only that, but the latter now have to play against him five times a year.

Full marks to Wilson. They just restocked their pick cupboards and got rid of dead cap for being inventive.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Jesus, did Ottawa ever get spun. We're talking 360s here.

A guy producing at a rate of a first-line forward got traded twice in an hour, and somehow one team got a set of picks for said guy, while the other currently has a middle six winger making too much money to show for him. Not only that, but the latter now have to play against him five times a year.

Full marks to Wilson. They just restocked their pick cupboards and got rid of dead cap for being inventive.

I think the difference between Hoffman and Boedker is being a little exaggerated and Bergman is still a legit prospect, though not a great one. All SJS got was a 4th, a 5th and a next year 2nd. Nothing to get too excited about there.

 

[SLAYER]

I think the difference between Hoffman and Boedker is being a little exaggerated and Bergman is still a legit prospect, though not a great one. All SJS got was a 4th, a 5th and a next year 2nd. Nothing to get too excited about there.

They also freed up a ton of cap space, which is big. At the end of the day, SJS got a better deal than OTT did just hours later.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

They also freed up a ton of cap space, which is big. At the end of the day, SJS got a better deal than OTT did just hours later.

Ottawa also gained cap and even more actual salary. Considering that they had to move Hoffman, I think they did OK. SJS shifted Boedker's contract for some late picks. Meh.

 

[Gm0ney]

The most important factor in any Ottawa trade is "How much money does this save Melnyk?" $2.7M? Sounds like a win for ol' Eugene!

 

[jetsforever]

SJ benefited, Ottawa got rid of their problem, Florida got a good player
Nothing's perfect, but it's not a bad set of trades