Speculation: Armchair GM Thread: Long long journey through the darkness, where is our goalie?

[Pizza the Hutt]

you don't get far in this league without drafting a goalie or trading for one early.

Here's a list of recent cup champions, and where they got their goalies:

Washington: Drafted
Pittsburgh: Drafted
Chicago: Drafted
Los Angeles: Drafted
Boston: Traded for 1st year
Detroit: Drafted

 

[Lunatik]

you don't get far in this league without drafting a goalie or trading for one early.

Here's a list of recent cup champions, and where they got their goalies:

Washington: Drafted
Pittsburgh: Drafted
Chicago: Drafted
Los Angeles: Drafted
Boston: Traded for 1st year
Detroit: Drafted

Chicago is also Free Agent, as Niemi was undrafted.

Also, just because there is a recent trend, does not make it the be all and end all. Prior to the stretch you showed, there was a similar stretch where the goalies winning the cup were all acquired via trade or free agency.

 

[DFF]

you don't get far in this league without drafting a goalie or trading for one early.

Here's a list of recent cup champions, and where they got their goalies:

Washington: Drafted
Pittsburgh: Drafted
Chicago: Drafted
Los Angeles: Drafted
Boston: Traded for 1st year
Detroit: Drafted

Have you seen the Flames record for drafting goalie?

The last one that was any good was Mike Vernon

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

I know he has a ton of skill. I just hope he’s more than a Markus Granlund.

Tbh the same could be said about Dillon Dube, though his speed does set him apart.

And Lindstrom is a fine player, smart and all. But I think he lacks any kind of NHL upside. Honestly I don’t think he will ever come over.

Swedish Bill Arnold

 

[Flameshomer]

Minnesota fans unhappy with the start of season and already talking about trading players... could we bring in Eric Staal here for a year? Might give us a nice boost if the cost isn't high. His salary would be off the books after this season too.

Something like Frolik + Kylington (or a 2nd?) for Staal

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Staal-Czarnik
Bennett-Backlund-Neal
dube-Ryan- jankowski

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Minnesota fans unhappy with the start of season and already talking about trading players... could we bring in Eric Staal here for a year? Might give us a nice boost if the cost isn't high. His salary would be off the books after this season too.

Something like Frolik + Kylington (or a 2nd?) for Staal

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Staal-Czarnik
Bennett-Backlund-Neal
dube-Ryan- jankowski

Maybe if we are contending for division lead but otherwise I'm less confident in the move. If we had room to keep him after this season it would be a different story.

 

[Fig]

Have you seen the Flames record for drafting goalie?

The last one that was any good was Mike Vernon

Well.. Anderson as well, but he reentered the draft. I honestly think it's more a goalie development thing than anything. A major part of that was the personnel on the farms. Karlsson and Irving's confidence and game were destroyed down there I believe by Ward. Then we'd get established guy son the big roster and no development for young guys there either.

I think we will start seeing farm system development in the goalie department soon. I can't imagine Treliving spent so much work to finally clean up the development mess (St Johns, Abbotsford, Adirondack, Stockton) only to let goalie development continue to be abysmal. I don't blame Sigalet/Marlarchuk that much anymore. I think Troy Ward was a bigger issue over the last decade or so for the goalie failures.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Swedish Bill Arnold

I was so damn confident Bill was gonna be a Yelle esque 4th liner with a hell of a wrist shot

 

[Mr Snrub]

I was so damn confident Bill was gonna be a Yelle esque 4th liner with a hell of a wrist shot

Poor dude used to skate with Johnny Gaudreau and he sells insurance now.

 

[Mr Snrub]

I'm bored and I want to stir up pointless arguments between friends. Do you guys think Jankowski gets traded this year, and if so, for what?

 

[InfinityIggy]

I'm bored and I want to stir up pointless arguments between friends. Do you guys think Jankowski gets traded this year, and if so, for what?

No, and for Drouin.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I'm bored and I want to stir up pointless arguments between friends. Do you guys think Jankowski gets traded this year, and if so, for what?

I think he's consistently an extra forward by the end of next year. I think he gets passed by guys on the depth chart and becomes a Colborne for another team

 

[Mobiandi]

We need cheap depth. Our forward prospect depth is barren. There'll be a top 12 space for him to win this year and the next. If he doesn't impress, he'll be moved a la Kulak

 

[Calgareee]

960 was saying yesterday that it’s unlikely Monahan plays Wednesday due to unknown injury, likely from a shot block.... what do lines look like? I’m hoping something like...

JG - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Dube - Jankowski - Czarnik
Frolik - Ryan - Hathaway

I feel like I’m forgetting someone though...

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Monahan not playing with a foot injury? What a bum.

Sarcasm chill out guys.

 

[Volica]

960 was saying yesterday that it’s unlikely Monahan plays Wednesday due to unknown injury, likely from a shot block.... what do lines look like? I’m hoping something like...

JG - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Dube - Jankowski - Czarnik
Frolik - Ryan - Hathaway

I feel like I’m forgetting someone though...

Peluso?

I'm good with that lineup. Maybe swap Janko and Ryan; that's about it.
It's fantastic having this depth though man... could you imagine last year, it's like, you already have half a lineup playing a line or two higher than they should... and now it's like, okay, well, we lost our 1C, might as well plug in a guy who can kind of make up the difference.

 

[joescores]

That Boston side would be hard to break with Monny in the side....already quaking in my pants.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

For what it's worth.

 

[joescores]

For what it's worth.

Thanks, I am fine with Peluso for Dube v Boston. Their noses are always dirty.. (Talking to you Marchass)

 

[joescores]

For what it's worth.

Also it looks like Czarnik's minutes will be limited.

 

[FlamerForLife]

It was a maintenance day for Dube, the shot he blocked in Nashville is still having a lingering affect according to Peters.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

While I'm not overly excited to see the 3M reunited (didn't think I'd ever say that) Czarnik needs to stay hungry I suppose.

 

[Rubi]

960 was saying yesterday that it’s unlikely Monahan plays Wednesday due to unknown injury, likely from a shot block.... what do lines look like? I’m hoping something like...

JG - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Bennett - Backlund - Neal
Dube - Jankowski - Czarnik
Frolik - Ryan - Hathaway

I feel like I’m forgetting someone though...

I'm pretty sure Monahan will play tomorrow. According to Peters he's ok.
Dube is still iffy for tomorrow

 

[super6646]

So the sportsnet guys are saying Monahan likely won't play, but Monahan feels good?

Also, I don't think frolik stays on that second like for more than one game (need to hold against the Bergeron line probably the reason the 3M line is back for now).

 

[crackdown44]

While I'm not overly excited to see the 3M reunited (didn't think I'd ever say that) Czarnik needs to stay hungry I suppose.

I suspect peters will try and match them against the Bergeron line since we have the last change