Speculation: Armchair GM Thread Mk. II - Now Paging Derek Ryan

[Ace Rimmer]

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[JPeeper]

Going to be a long off-season with barely any draft picks, not that many trade-able assets, a lot of work to be done with the forward group (the entire bottom 6, a high end RW), players needing to be bought out (Brouwer), players needing to be traded (Stone), coaches needed to be fired (clean house), coaches needing to be hired, players getting healthy from surgery (please be good to go at the beginning of next season Monahan).

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

I think the most realistic thing to do is clean the coaching staff into the dumpster, and then maybe sign some potential bounceback or veteran guys to try and squeeze some value out of them? Basically like what the Jays did this offseason?

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Doubt it will happen, but some Blues fans were fine with trading Allen and the Jets first for a mep player. Anyone want to do it and bank on Allen being a good backup for us?

 

[Mobiandi]

oops

 

[Calculon]

Doubt it will happen, but some Blues fans were fine with trading Allen and the Jets first for a mep player. Anyone want to do it and bank on Allen being a good backup for us?

Allen has 3 more years at 4.35M per.

They'd have to take Brouwer back or retain significantly to make it even semi-viable.

 

[Rangediddy]

Allen has 3 more years at 4.35M per.

They'd have to take Brouwer back or retain significantly to make it even semi-viable.

Allen and a First for Brouwer? Deal.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Yeah I’d do Brouwer for Allen. Not sure the Blues do.

 

[viper0220]

Between AV and Darryl Sutter, who would you rather have as a coach for the Flames?

 

[DFF]

Yeah I’d do Brouwer for Allen. Not sure the Blues do.

A bad goalie can do more damage....he can make Elliott looks good

 

[Lunatik]

Between AV and Darryl Sutter, who would you rather have as a coach for the Flames?

Barry Trotz

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

It's too bad Ottawa circus turned Spezza off of Canada. I'd swap Brouwer for him in a heartbeat and I think Hitchcock would too.

 

[InfinityIggy]

It's too bad Ottawa circus turned Spezza off of Canada. I'd swap Brouwer for him in a heartbeat and I think Hitchcock would too.

I wonder if he would consider a return to a Canadian market now that he is no longer relied on as ‘the guy’.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Between AV and Darryl Sutter, who would you rather have as a coach for the Flames?

Brian Sutter.

 

[viper0220]

Barry Trotz

Why? Barry Tortz has never won shit. His team's always choke, if he can't get the Caps past the 3rd round he is a shit coach.

 

[viper0220]

Brian Sutter.

Would go for him but don't want the Flames to piss away the prime years of Johnny Gaudreau as a Flame.

 

[Dack]

Sutter > AV for me.

The last two years AV has basically been the Anti Gulutzan. The Rangers play only for quality and I'm not sure that's better than playing for quantity. You need a kid of both and the past two year the Rangers have been a really bad team carried by goaltending.

I think if you look at their firing thread Rangers fans hate him far more than our fans hate GG. I will say though prior to the last few years AV has been a very good coach.

I also think Trotz is an option. Not his fault that the caps GM signed some really bad contracts and they now have no depth. Blaming him for not going far in the playoffs is stupid. Like how much control can he possibly have over how his team plays in game 7s? They're a presidents trophy winning team routinely who just haven't been able to get past Pittsburgh.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Why? Barry Tortz has never won ****. His team's always choke, if he can't get the Caps past the 3rd round he is a **** coach.

Wasn’t that the same argument people were making against Boudreau... the guy is a good coach.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Sutter > AV for me.

The last two years AV has basically been the Anti Gulutzan. The Rangers play only for quality and I'm not sure that's better than playing for quantity. You need a kid of both and the past two year the Rangers have been a really bad team carried by goaltending.

I think if you look at their firing thread Rangers fans hate him far more than our fans hate GG. I will say though prior to the last few years AV has been a very good coach.

I think we have a quality chances team. Dance around outside with your speed until guys get to the net, something opens up. The amount of times we just flung the puck at the net with no traffic in the region, when we could have been more patient and waited for an actual goal scoring chance to appear.

That’s alao why our D need to jump into the play more. We need that second wave of attack especially off the rush. Gulutzan basically forbid it.

 

[Dack]

I think we have a quality chances team. Dance around outside with your speed until guys get to the net, something opens up. The amount of times we just flung the puck at the net with no traffic in the region, when we could have been more patient and waited for an actual goal scoring chance to appear.

That’s alao why our D need to jump into the play more. We need that second wave of attack especially off the rush. Gulutzan basically forbid it.

I don't think you can just go for quality though that's a really bad strategy IMO. Goals are scored all the time off of deflections and rebounds generated by just shooting. Holding the puck all game waiting for the perfect chance kind of pins all of your hopes on scoring on a few chances.

 

[Lunatik]

Why? Barry Tortz has never won ****. His team's always choke, if he can't get the Caps past the 3rd round he is a **** coach.

The Caps have failed repeatedly under 3 different coaches, blaming the coaches at this point is just using them as scapegoats. The problem in Washington is the way the team has been built, not the way it has been coached.

 

[viper0220]

Wasn’t that the same argument people were making against Boudreau... the guy is a good coach.

Honestly Bruce Boudreau is a good regular season coach but his team's fail in the playoffs, same goes for Barry Trotz.

Bruce Boudreau NHL & WHA Hockey Coaching Record | Hockey-Reference.com

 

[viper0220]

The Caps have failed repeatedly under 3 different coaches, blaming the coaches at this point is just using them as scapegoats. The problem in Washington is the way the team has been built, not the way it has been coached.

Barry Trotz has not won anything, even with Nashville. The Caps winning % over the last 4 regular seasons under Barry Trotz is .616 and over but in the playoffs they never do good.

Barry Trotz NHL & WHA Hockey Coaching Record | Hockey-Reference.com

 

[viper0220]

Sutter > AV for me.

The last two years AV has basically been the Anti Gulutzan. The Rangers play only for quality and I'm not sure that's better than playing for quantity. You need a kid of both and the past two year the Rangers have been a really bad team carried by goaltending.

I think if you look at their firing thread Rangers fans hate him far more than our fans hate GG. I will say though prior to the last few years AV has been a very good coach.

I also think Trotz is an option. Not his fault that the caps GM signed some really bad contracts and they now have no depth. Blaming him for not going far in the playoffs is stupid. Like how much control can he possibly have over how his team plays in game 7s? They're a presidents trophy winning team routinely who just haven't been able to get past Pittsburgh.

Why? Under Barry Trotz the Cap have been one of best regular season team's but come playoffs, they don't go far. Same thing happened in Nashville with Barry Trotz.

 

[Lunatik]

Barry Trotz has not won anything, even with Nashville. The Caps winning % over the last 4 regular seasons under Barry Trotz is .616 and over but in the playoffs they never do good.

Barry Trotz NHL & WHA Hockey Coaching Record | Hockey-Reference.com

Trotz coached a f***ing expansion team in Nashville and they always severely lacked offensive talent during his tenure there. He instilled in them the identity they have now, he is a big reason they are contenders now. But after a decade or however long he was there, it was simply time for a change.