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Ottawa blocks our phone number after that offer.
They wouldn't do that offer even without the 2nd involved.
Speculation: Armchair GM Thread: I can't believe it's not butter, I can't believe we didn't get Ryan Hartman.
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Ottawa blocks our phone number after that offer.
They wouldn't do that offer even without the 2nd involved.
Johnny Hoxville
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I'm not really sure why OTT fans think they are going to get a kings ransom for Hoffman. He's a solid offensive piece for anyone's top 6. But he's not Wayne Simmonds. defensive prospects are all we can afford. I wouldn't trade Bennett straight up for him given the upside he still has and the toughness he brings on the ice. I've seen enough of Hoffman to know what he is, and I'm a big Hoffman fan as well, guy is clutch imo. But he's not worth what their fans are asking for.
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Stop worrying about what Ottawa would do, worry about what the Flames gotta do
Johnny Hoxville
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He has to say that. If he admits they’re shopping him, they lose all leverage. I’m sure he’s taking to calls to see what the market is. But I don’t doubt he might not get dealt.
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Bjornar Moxnes
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Hoffman is better than Simmonds, more productive 5on5, better sniper, better defensively. But I'd rather trade more for Simmonds than Hoffman as Simmonds fits a need more.
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I like the fit but I think he will cost too much assetwise, especially because we would be very unlikely to be able to re-sign him, and I think we are almost certainly on his no-trade list.
Johnny Hoxville
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Typical price for rentals are picks, prospects and if necessary, cap dumps. Nash would be no exception; depending on demand, one or two second round picks (or a first instead) and a decent prospect. Comparable would be the Eric Staal trade who went for two second rounders and a prospect in Saarela.
But Flames are low on picks, which hinders things a fair bit. Teams may or may not want your prospects (organizational strengths and whatnot), but they always want more picks. Moreover, in light of the Flames' consistent inconsistency, they shouldn't be going after rentals anyway, especially playoff chokers like Nash.
If things go bad (more bad) in Carolina, Flames should go heavily after Elias Lindholm. Bennett+Mangiapane+?
But Flames are low on picks, which hinders things a fair bit. Teams may or may not want your prospects (organizational strengths and whatnot), but they always want more picks. Moreover, in light of the Flames' consistent inconsistency, they shouldn't be going after rentals anyway, especially playoff chokers like Nash.
If things go bad (more bad) in Carolina, Flames should go heavily after Elias Lindholm. Bennett+Mangiapane+?
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I dont know about that. They are both struggling. It may cost more than Bennett but Bennett definitely get us in the door, maybe even the dinner table lol
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I think Nash gives you an above average defensive winger and effort all the time. Vanek is a dud defensively and his effort depends on how he is feeling that shift and almost never is better than meh.
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Fair points guys, though it was half in jest.
Think the biggest concern I have that I fear no one may be realizing is that I feel we may end up a budget team in the vein of the Yotes. We'll even have their management who are excellent in doing excellent spurts of mediocrity.
The Calizona Flamotes or whatever combination of the words you'd like to use, is something I fear may end up in our near ish future. None of this would be the fault of management. It would be pure ownership mandate. We've been blessed with relatively great ownership for many years. I'm concerned it might not last.
Think the biggest concern I have that I fear no one may be realizing is that I feel we may end up a budget team in the vein of the Yotes. We'll even have their management who are excellent in doing excellent spurts of mediocrity.
The Calizona Flamotes or whatever combination of the words you'd like to use, is something I fear may end up in our near ish future. None of this would be the fault of management. It would be pure ownership mandate. We've been blessed with relatively great ownership for many years. I'm concerned it might not last.
Ace Rimmer
Stoke me a clipper.
Rumour has it he's going back to NYR in the offseason. No idea of source, heard it on the radio.
Johnny Hoxville
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I don’t think the Flames will ever be a budget team, we make money spending to the cap each year. The trick is though, you spend cap on the right pieces.
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Bennett has had less success with Versteeg than he has with Brouwer, Bennett's drop off last season came when Brouwer was injured and Versteeg was bumped down the lineup.
I don't believe that. No way they get a 4/5 defenseman signed to a decent contract and Bennett for a younger Hudler and a 2nd. They wouldn't get Bennett alone for Hoffman, especially at almost 5.2 million
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