Speculation: Armchair GM and Rumors Thread XX

[Tkachuk Norris]

Would you guys move #6 and our 3 seconds for #3?

 

[Rangediddy]

Would you guys move #6 and our 3 seconds for #3?

I would. I think we have enough prospects on the shelf to sacrifice this year's crop for an elite winger.

Though I think 2 2nds and one of those prospects that doesn't fit into our plans could be enough

 

[Calculon]

Would you guys move #6 and our 3 seconds for #3?

With zero hesitation.

The draft is weaker from the second round and onwards. And not only has Treliving acknowledged that, but others (Burke+Conroy) have said the 2nd rounders are in play.

But it seems like the Blue Jackets want something with a little more substance, i.e. a more established player.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Niklas Backstrom has signed with HIFK of the FEL.

http://www.hifk.fi/uutiset/tiedote-niklas-baeckstroem-ja-juhamatti-aaltonen-ifkhon

 

[Rangediddy]

With zero hesitation.

The draft is weaker from the second round and onwards. And not only has Treliving acknowledged that, but others (Burke+Conroy) have said the 2nd rounders are in play.

But it seems like the Blue Jackets want something with a little more substance, i.e. a more established player.

Mason Raymond's established...

 

[SmellOfVictory]

I thought about Hartnell as well, but another roster player would need to go back as well, maybe raymond/bolig/Stajan. But yeah that contract seems a little on the long side

Why not Bouma? He's overpaid for what he does, but he saves the Jackets cap space while creating a small amount of cap space for the Flames over the next couple of years (in comparison to the league minimum player who could replace him).

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2088437

Some expansion details have been confirmed to the teams already.

We don't need to protect Wideman.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2088437

Some expansion details have been confirmed to the teams already.

We don't need to protect Wideman.

I also sort of read it as saying that Gilles is fine, as he's not played more than 10 games in a season.

 

[Fig]

I would. I think we have enough prospects on the shelf to sacrifice this year's crop for an elite winger.

Though I think 2 2nds and one of those prospects that doesn't fit into our plans could be enough

Possible, but I think CBJ needs to shed cap. The only way we can do that while meeting a need/not killing our own salary cap I think is either to take Bobrovsky or Hartnell. Both of which can be problems really fast with Gio, Mony and JG's contracts coming up soon.

I really like the idea of Hartnell. But age and money are the biggest concerns for him as at this time IMO. The Bouma idea is interesting, but I'd be interested to shed players as well and I'd want to see if that's possible.

I wonder if Raymond + Ferland + pick would be enough to garner some interest (probably not). Same ish salary, both LW but easier to bury the salary if needed. I wanted Hartnell to mentor Ferland... but I'm sure many other players can learn from Hartnell and elevate their game other than Ferland.

I suddenly have an odd feeling that management wanted something similar to what Hartnell offers, out of Bollig.

I wouldn't target the 3OA. I think CBJ needs it too much to deal with their cap. (Are they a internal cap team?). I think the only way anyone prys that 3OA from them is if they take on David Clarkson.

 

[Calculon]

Yeah, Gillies is exempt. Still somewhat unclear on Shinkaruk and Poirier; seems like they'll be exempt, which if true, would leave the Flames in a pretty good situation upfront.

They can meet the forward requirement easily (Bouma+Stajan) but not the defencemen part. But that too can be easily rectified with Engelland or Jokipakka getting an extension.

When it comes to acquiring a goalie:
Treliving: Please sell me a goalie. I’ll pay anything.
Horst: Isn’t this a happy coincidence! You are desperate to buy, and we are desperate to sell!
Treliving: Desperate, eh? Advantage…Treliving!

Acquiring a young(ish) goalie through a trade, like say Neuvirth, Kuemper or even Andersen/Gibson just became a whole lot easier. If Ward re-signs in Carolina, Reimer becomes even cheaper to sign. If however Sutter's spirit possesses Treliving for a while and they focus on a veteran, then the Penguins basically have to give Fleury away (unless he agrees to waive his NMC for the draft).

 

[Rangediddy]

So with the clearer rules, who do we have to protect?

1. Gaudreau
2. Monahan
3. Bennett
4. Backlund
5. Frolik
6. Shinkaruk? He'd have more than 2 pro seasons I assume?
7. ??? - Ferland/Colborne/Grant/Bouma

1. Giordano
2. Brodie
3. Hamilton

1. New goalie

For the rules around whether Shink would be exposed, I would imagine these rules come into effect as of the date you'd have to submit your protection list? Meaning Shinkaruk would have played 3 seasons in his 20's by then.
He turned 20 October 13th, 2014, so spending the 2014-2015 season in Utica is 1. 2015-16 in Van/Cal is 2, next year in Cal is 3. Do I have that right?

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Yeah, Gillies is exempt. Still somewhat unclear on Shinkaruk and Poirier; seems like they'll be exempt, which if true, would leave the Flames in a pretty good situation upfront.

They can meet the forward requirement easily (Bouma+Stajan) but not the defencemen part. But that too can be easily rectified with Engelland or Jokipakka getting an extension.

When it comes to acquiring a goalie:
Treliving: Please sell me a goalie. I’ll pay anything.
Horst: Isn’t this a happy coincidence! You are desperate to buy, and we are desperate to sell!
Treliving: Desperate, eh? Advantage…Treliving!

Acquiring a young(ish) goalie through a trade, like say Neuvirth, Kuemper or even Andersen/Gibson just became a whole lot easier. If Ward re-signs in Carolina, Reimer becomes even cheaper to sign. If however Sutter's spirit possesses Treliving for a while and they focus on a veteran, then the Penguins basically have to give Fleury away (unless he agrees to waive his NMC for the draft).

Pickard could be an option as well.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

1. Gaudreau 2. Monahan 3. Bennett 4. Backlund 5. Frolik 6. Ferland 7. Shinkaruk

Exposed: Colbourne, Grant, Bouma, Stajan, Frolik, Poirier

1. Gio 2. Brodie 3. Hamilton

Exposed: Jokkipakka, Kulak, Wotherspoon, Wideman

1. Andersen

Exposed: Ortio

I'm actually not against exposing Frolik and getting out from the last three years of his contract. Even though I do like him. If Poirier/ Shinkaruk or Colbourne can be protected if need be.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

1. Gaudreau 2. Monahan 3. Bennett 4. Backlund 5. Frolik 6. Ferland 7. Shinkaruk

Exposed: Colbourne, Grant, Bouma, Stajan, Frolik, Poirier

1. Gio 2. Brodie 3. Hamilton

Exposed: Jokkipakka, Kulak, Wotherspoon, Wideman

1. Andersen

Exposed: Ortio

I'm actually not against exposing Frolik and getting out from the last three years of his contract. Even though I do like him. If Poirier/ Shinkaruk or Colbourne can be protected if need be.

Why expose Frolik though? We do we have to replace him?

Unless he has a completely gawd awful season I don't see the point.

 

[Rangediddy]

1. Gaudreau 2. Monahan 3. Bennett 4. Backlund 5. Frolik 6. Ferland 7. Shinkaruk

Exposed: Colbourne, Grant, Bouma, Stajan, Frolik, Poirier

1. Gio 2. Brodie 3. Hamilton

Exposed: Jokkipakka, Kulak, Wotherspoon, Wideman

1. Andersen

Exposed: Ortio

I'm actually not against exposing Frolik and getting out from the last three years of his contract. Even though I do like him. If Poirier/ Shinkaruk or Colbourne can be protected if need be.

So do you want Frolik protected or exposed? You have him as both.

 

[Calculon]

Pickard would be a great option. Might be even able to pry him away for a couple of seconds (35th+54th) and a prospect (Klimchuk/Agostino/Culkin/Morrison/Arnold, etc.) or 35th+Colborne. A real shame about Dallas' first.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Pickard would be a great option. Might be even able to pry him away for a couple of seconds (35th+54th) and a prospect (Klimchuk/Agostino/Culkin/Morrison/Arnold, etc.) or 35th+Colborne. A real shame about Dallas' first.

Colborne might be of interest. Hard to say, as Avs fans want winger upgrades, but sure if Colborne is that much of one though lol.

I still want us to try and snag McGinn in free agency if the deal is right.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I feel like not protecting Frolik would be like not protecting Skrudland. Basically a roll of the dice that backfires.

 

[Demetric]

With Wideman not needing to be protected, I also take that to mean he does not count as being exposed (ie expiring contracts do not count as exposed contracts) as they do not have a contract in 17/18

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Would Shore, our 3 x 2nd's get it done?

 

[Demetric]

Would Shore, our 3 x 2nd's get it done?

with BT's recent track record, 6th + 2 2nds + Shore would likely get it done lol

 

[AgeOfBennett]

Seems pretty consensus that we protect these players right?

F
Monahan
Gaudreau
Backlund
Bennett
Frolik
Shinkaruk
XXXXX (Ferland/Poirier/AHLer who impresses next year or FA signing like Brouwer/Perron)

D
Giordano
Brodie
Hamilton

G
Whatever goalie we get

 

[Mr Lebowski]

Flames:
8th overall
Fasching

Sabres:
6th overall

I think Treliving said that there was a big decrease in quality after 6 so I doubt they'd trade back

 

[MonyontheMoney]

I'd be all for trading up to 3 or 4. Puljujarvi and Dubois are two of my favourite prospects this draft.

 

[Body Checker]

Just having some fun here -

Frolik, Colborne, Bouma, Hickey, 35th pick (to Wild) for Vanek, Scandella, 15th pick

Scandella (to Coyotes) for 20th pick

6th - Nylander, 15th - Jones, 20th - Gauthier

Future Top 6:

Gaudreau-Monohan-Gauthier
Jones-Bennett-Nylander