Speculation: Armchair GM and Rumors Thread XX

[GAMO1992]

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[BigRangy]

*reposted because the last thread was 1k'ed

My new mock lineup for 2016-17. Additional cap could be saved by buying out Raymond and Smid in order to lock down a good depth RW. It's still a bit presumptuous to pencil Pribyl in for a spot, but he might be the best the Flames can do as a winger for Bennett this year. Signed Perron for two years, though he'll likely want more. Shinkaruk is cheap enough that he can be stashed in the minors for no cap hit and replaced by a cheap vet if Brad wants him to get minutes in the AHL. Obviously, my dream is still Yakupov to fill the hole on the top line, but I can't see a scenario where he makes his way to the Flames. Perron will do just fine. The defense is pretty inexperienced, but Wotherspoon was very solid in his showings this year, and with a likely better set of defensive schemes from the new coach, he should be able to keep up. If not, play Kevin there instead and Spoon with Nak.

What do you think?

 

[Gritty]

*reposted because the last thread was 1k'ed

My new mock lineup for 2016-17. Additional cap could be saved by buying out Raymond and Smid in order to lock down a good depth RW. It's still a bit presumptuous to pencil Pribyl in for a spot, but he might be the best the Flames can do as a winger for Bennett this year. Signed Perron for two years, though he'll likely want more. Shinkaruk is cheap enough that he can be stashed in the minors for no cap hit and replaced by a cheap vet if Brad wants him to get minutes in the AHL. Obviously, my dream is still Yakupov to fill the hole on the top line, but I can't see a scenario where he makes his way to the Flames. Perron will do just fine. The defense is pretty inexperienced, but Wotherspoon was very solid in his showings this year, and with a likely better set of defensive schemes from the new coach, he should be able to keep up. If not, play Kevin there instead and Spoon with Nak.

What do you think?

I'd rather have Hathaway and Grant in the lineup over Jooris and Priybl.
Both Hathaway and Grant have played exceptionally well and should get opening day rosters spots if they have a solid camp. (Just my opinion, but we need their size and grit)

I'd also look for other options for Wideman... (A buyout is probably the most likely scenario) and acquire a more reliable goaltender.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Shoot me in the face at the idea of Colborne on the top PP unit and Bennett not on either PP unit.

 

[BigRangy]

I'd rather have Hathaway and Grant in the lineup over Jooris and Priybl.
Both Hathaway and Grant have played exceptionally well and should get opening day rosters spots if they have a solid camp. (Just my opinion, but we need their size and grit)

I'd also look for other options for Wideman... (A buyout is probably the most likely scenario) and acquire a more reliable goaltender.

totally forgot about Grant. I agree that he would be a good fit on the team next year. He's definitely worth another contract. I don't think Hathaway is an upgrade on Jooris though, but he will be about 300k cheaper which could lead to Jooris' departure if the cap space is tight

Shoot me in the face at the idea of Colborne on the top PP unit and Bennett not on either PP unit.

wow totally forgot about Bennett as well. He should definitely get some PP time. Probably sub him for Frolik.

What do you guys think of Perron though?

 

[AgeOfBennett]

I'll with the trades and signings you've made; here's my line up

Gaudreau - Monahan - Shinkaruk
Colborne - Backlund - Frolik
Perron - Bennett - Pribyl
Ferland - Stajan - Hathaway
Bollig

Brodie - D. Hamilton
Giordano - Wotherspoon
Jokipakka - Nakladal
Engelland

Halak
Ortio

I also think Bouma is traded for futures this off season

 

[Flames Fanatic]

wow totally forgot about Bennett as well. He should definitely get some PP time. Probably sub him for Frolik.

What do you guys think of Perron though?

I don't mind Perron as long as it's not longer than 2 years.

 

[Gritty]

If we could land Brouwer on a 2 year deal, I'd take him over over Perron.
I think he'd bring a great physical presence to our top lines, provide a RHS, create space downlow, and prevent players from taking liberties on Johnny.

Johnny - Monahan - Brouwer
Colborne - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma- Bennett - Grant
Ferland - Stajan - Hathaway
Bollig

Brodie - Gio
Joki - Hamilton
Spoon- Engelland/Nak

Andersson/Reimer/Fleury/etc (basically sign or trade for an upgrade)

 

[Calculon]

I'll second Brouwer on a short deal over Perron.

I think it'll be a busy summer with Treliving trying to move all of Wideman, Bouma, Jooris, Stajan and maybe Colborne depending on his salary demands.

 

[GAMO1992]

I'm going to go ahead and 3rd the Brouwer suggestion IMO I think he'd be a real nice addition to our Fwd core.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

It's kinda funny, I think Perron is the better regular season player and Brouwer is the better playoff player. Which do we need most lol.

 

[The Gnome]

dump Wideman and Colburne for a bag of pucks. Buyout Smid and Raymond. Then sign both for 2-3 years max (Not accounting for an expensive goalie).

Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Shinkaruk-Bennett-Perron
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Bouma-Stajan-Hathaway/Grant

Gio-Brodie
Jokipakka-Hamilton
Wotherspoon/Nakladal-Engelland

?????
Ortio

 

[GAMO1992]

If, somehow the Stars make their way past the Blues, we get their first, would you move it for Rychel?? We'd probably still have to add, but....

just think one of:
Tkachuk/PLD/Nylander + Rychel would be a hell of a draft.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

If, somehow the Stars make their way past the Blues, we get their first, would you move it for Rychel?? We'd probably still have to add, but....

just think one of:
Tkachuk/PLD/Nylander + Rychel would be a hell of a draft.

I'd do it. Don't know why Kiko would. But then again he just seems like a GM that makes trades because they are fun. So offer it and hope he's feeling dangerous

 

[Mr Lebowski]

It's not great but I would do something like this, you could replace Ramo with Perron and Ortio. Also Tkachuk or Dubois could make the team. Doing a Dallas 1st + for Rychel would be a great idea.

Also I have no idea what Wideman's trade value would be

 

[FlamerForLife]

It's not great but I would do something like this, you could replace Ramo with Perron and Ortio. Also Tkachuk or Dubois could make the team. Doing a Dallas 1st + for Rychel would be a great idea.

Also I have no idea what Wideman's trade value would be

Don't think Reimer signs for $2.5M

 

[TkachuckNotTkaczuk]

Don't think Reimer signs for $2.5M

Nor the amount of years I would be comfortable with.

 

[Sparky93]

Trade- Wideman + Ortio for Markstrom + Sbisa

Draft- Dubois

Sign- Cam Ward([email protected]) and Andrew Ladd([email protected])

Gaudreau(7.5)-Monahan(6.1)-Shinkaruk(.863333)
Colborne(3)-Backlund(3.575)-Frolik(4.3)
Ladd(5.5)-Bennett(.925)-Dubois(.925)
Bouma(2.2)-Stajan(3.125)-Ferland(.825)
Bollig(1.25)/Pribyl(.925)

Giordano(6.75)-Brodie(4.6504)
Jokipakka(.9)-Hamilton(5.75)
Sbisa(3.6)-Engeland(2.916)
Smid(3.5)

Markstrom(1.55)/Ward(2.25)

Cap hit: 72.8333

 

[BigRangy]

Trade- Wideman + Ortio for Markstrom + Sbisa

Draft- Dubois

Sign- Cam Ward and Andrew Ladd

Gaudreau(7.5)-Monahan(6.1)-Shinkaruk(.863333)
Colborne(3)-Backlund(3.575)-Frolik(4.3)
Ladd(5.5)-Bennett(.925)-Dubois(.925)
Bouma(2.2)-Stajan(3.125)-Ferland(.825)
Bollig(1.25)/Pribyl(.925)

Giordano(6.75)-Brodie(4.605)
Jokki(.9)-Hamilton(5.75)
Sbisa(3.6)-Engeland(2.916)
Smid(3.5)

Markstrom(1.55)/Ward(2)

I don't think you realise exactly how bad Sbisa is at playing hockey. If Vancouver added the 5th OA to that trade it would still be tough to accept.

 

[Sparky93]

I don't think you realise exactly how bad Sbisa is at playing hockey. If Vancouver added the 5th OA to that trade it would still be tough to accept.

Sbisa actually had an ok year. Still 26, he's way overpaid, but can be ok when used properly, in a limited role. Besides, the meat and potatoes of the trade is Wideman for Markstrom, with add ins to fill gaps/cap issues.

 

[AgeOfBennett]

Trade- Wideman + Ortio for Markstrom + Sbisa

Draft- Dubois

Sign- Cam Ward([email protected]) and Andrew Ladd([email protected])

Gaudreau(7.5)-Monahan(6.1)-Shinkaruk(.863333)
Colborne(3)-Backlund(3.575)-Frolik(4.3)
Ladd(5.5)-Bennett(.925)-Dubois(.925)
Bouma(2.2)-Stajan(3.125)-Ferland(.825)
Bollig(1.25)/Pribyl(.925)

Giordano(6.75)-Brodie(4.6504)
Jokipakka(.9)-Hamilton(5.75)
Sbisa(3.6)-Engeland(2.916)
Smid(3.5)

Markstrom(1.55)/Ward(2.25)

Cap hit: 72.8333

I don't like not having at least one RS in the forward group

 

[Sparky93]

I don't like not having at least one RS in the forward group

Pribyl and Ferland will most likely swap out regularly

 

[TkachuckNotTkaczuk]

I don't know if Wideman is tradeable right now. It may not be the best move for what us fans want right now but it may be best to play him next year. Try to get him to bounce back, the guy will be playing for his next contract and could get us much more in a deadline deal. We will be hard pressed to make the play on ext year read less so we don't have too much to lose by playing it that way. That and right now we would be trading from a position of weakness and would either have to retain, add or both. I think longer term this would be best for the team going forward.

 

[DCDM]

Sbisa actually had an ok year.

Based on what? If you think our bottom 3 defensemen are bad right now, you're in for a shock if you think Sbisa is an improvement.

 

[Sparky93]

Based on what? If you think our bottom 3 defensemen are bad right now, you're in for a shock if you think Sbisa is an improvement.

Don't get me wrong, I have zero interest in Sbisa, but if we were to move Wideman for Markstrom, there would have to be salary coming back and Sbisa would be the most likely candidate. Wideman is a train wreck defensively and if we're not using him in a top 4, offensive role, at least Sbisa adds a little physicality and we get a Gillies/Markstrom tandem for years to come.