Proposal: Arizona- Oilers Blockbuster Trade

YotesFan47

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Wow!

This is horrendous for the Oilers. Strome is a bust. Chychrun is a LHD, but need RHD. Keller is the only player the Oilers need, but he's small.

Poorly researched, but absolutely poor for the Oilers unless the deal involves Cap dumps:

Draisaitl
Lucic
Sekera

for

Keller,
Hayton
Chychrun

Get out of here, do you even watch hockey?!
 
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YotesFan47

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respectively disagree

People are saying Pizza Boy is a bust as well and he was taken a year after Strome

Strome has played ONLY 32 games since he was draft 3rd overall- 27 players taken in that draft have played more games then him. He has 11 pts in 32 games. For a guy who was taken 3rd overall he should be further along then he is.

Fisher who was taken 29 spots after Strome has already played 90 games and 36 pts

calling him an outright bust maybe wrong--but the warning flags are there--like for his brother Ryan--there seems to be a problem
Strome has played excellent hockey so far. Our entire team can't score and he has a goal. On top of that, he has been money on the dot. Our teams issues don't link back to Strome. We have been slow roasting this kid, we will see this season if he has good flavor.
 
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Pia8988

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Wow!

This is horrendous for the Oilers. Strome is a bust. Chychrun is a LHD, but need RHD. Keller is the only player the Oilers need, but he's small.

Poorly researched, but absolutely poor for the Oilers unless the deal involves Cap dumps:

Draisaitl
Lucic
Sekera

for

Keller,
Hayton
Chychrun

So Oilers get 3 good young pieces while Arizona gets one making a lot of money and twp cap dumps. Sounds fair
 
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Jumptheshark

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Strome has played excellent hockey so far. Our entire team can't score and he has a goal. On top of that, he has been money on the dot. Our teams issues don't link back to Strome. We have been slow roasting this kid, we will see this season if he has good flavor.


Hockey is more and more a stats driven sport--so far this year he has played 4 games(like the entire arizona team) that is a small sample size

this year in 4 games he has 7 shots and 1 goal

we are not talking about a 2nd or 3rd rounder--we are talking about a guy taken 3rd overall in a very deep draft

the bar is higher for him then a 2nd or 3rd liner and when you are taken top 5 in a draft--it is on the stat sheet that you are expected to shine

his brother taken 5th overall is considered a bust and a bottom 6 player now
 

Yamazaki

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Well of course. You'd never trade anything of value when trying to improve your team. Busts, cap dumps, and scraps only.
He’s a 4th overall pick on a rookie contract on a team struggling to find a winger with McDavid..... why not keep him?
 

thadd

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To Arizona- Draisaitl,Yamamoto. Puljujarvi

to Oilers- Keller,Strome,Chychrun,

Arizona has 9 million in cap space-so can afford Draisaitl-

Keller playing on the same line as McDavid would be an awesome combination.

Both teams seem to be at a pain point to make changes to their teams.


Cap space is nice, but not at this price.

Edmonton needs to compete now. Drai is a known slow starter and we at least know that we'll have his line producing points consistently before November comes along.
 

rockinghockey

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Edmonton is built around McDavid drai

Arizona should do this but won't because giving up known assets for question marks is impossible.

Personally I feel Arizona gives up more but needs the change more.

No from both teams
Is Edm really built around McD tes Lzd until he can produce on his own no
 

Skolman

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Wow!

This is horrendous for the Oilers. Strome is a bust. Chychrun is a LHD, but need RHD. Keller is the only player the Oilers need, but he's small.

Poorly researched, but absolutely poor for the Oilers unless the deal involves Cap dumps:

Draisaitl
Lucic
Sekera

for

Keller,
Hayton
Chychrun
This is 10X worse.
 

sfvega

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Wow!

This is horrendous for the Oilers. Strome is a bust. Chychrun is a LHD, but need RHD. Keller is the only player the Oilers need, but he's small.

Poorly researched, but absolutely poor for the Oilers unless the deal involves Cap dumps:

Draisaitl
Lucic
Sekera

for

Keller,
Hayton
Chychrun

Jesus, you gonna make Arizona's GM include his house? How about his kids' shoes too? You gonna make him turn his pockets inside out like the f***ing Monopoly man?
 
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Patagonia

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Jesus, you gonna make Arizona's GM include his house? How about his kids' shoes too? You gonna make him turn his pockets inside out like the ****ing Monopoly man?

Arizona ownership is hanging by a thread. You’re proposing for the most valued position in hockey a big 1C signed long term. If you want him, expect to pay hard. McDavid would likely want him to stay, so don’t expect him to be moved.
 

Pia8988

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Arizona ownership is hanging by a thread. You’re proposing for the most valued position in hockey a big 1C signed long term. If you want him, expect to pay hard. McDavid would likely want him to stay, so don’t expect him to be moved.

Draisaitl isn't close to that valuable when saddled with two cap dumps. It's more likely Edmonton picks in the top 5 again and cleans house as is custom
 
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sfvega

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Arizona ownership is hanging by a thread. You’re proposing for the most valued position in hockey a big 1C signed long term. If you want him, expect to pay hard. McDavid would likely want him to stay, so don’t expect him to be moved.

I, a Blues fan, am not proposing for anything. Just stating that your counter is god-awful. Three very talented recent top 15 picks for Drai saddled with a 32-year old defenseman coming off a bad injury with a bad contract and the ghost of Milan Lucic. This move would take the Arizona ownership from hanging by thread to just plain hung in the center of town by the 9 remaining Coyotes fans.
 
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CaptainCrunch67

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Can't agree with you here. Also, he's 20. Lighten up. Can't Edmonton take their time in developing their players?

I'm not talking future potential here, that's not the question.

But nobody can look at his body of work to this point and say, man he's regressed, because frankly he hasn't been good. And development entails steps forward or improvement, it hasn't exactly been there.
 

TFHockey

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I'm not talking future potential here, that's not the question.

But nobody can look at his body of work to this point and say, man he's regressed, because frankly he hasn't been good. And development entails steps forward or improvement, it hasn't exactly been there.

He really hasn't been given much of a shot on the top lines. A lot of fans are asking why he isn't on Draisaitl's wing, rather than on the third line with Strome. Yamamoto hasn't exactly lit it up as the 2RW. Maybe switch the two around? Puljujarvi has all the physical tools to be a power forward in the NHL. He had a very strong pre-season. It's not as if we have a ton of good wingers. Anyway... people who call a 20 year old a bust are either too hard on young players or have a particular axe to grind.
 

BudBundy

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I dont see how this solves either teams problems. Oilers desperately need a 2nd pair RH shot D. Chychrun is a lefty iirc. From my seat in the rink, what the Yotes really need is a few mid career leaders on decent contracts to try and start wringing some production out of all the potential littering their lineup. Disregarding value, how does this honestly make either team better? I feel like the OP just wants to get the Strome brothers on the same team so threw some other names in the hat.
 

YotesFan47

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Hockey is more and more a stats driven sport--so far this year he has played 4 games(like the entire arizona team) that is a small sample size

this year in 4 games he has 7 shots and 1 goal

we are not talking about a 2nd or 3rd rounder--we are talking about a guy taken 3rd overall in a very deep draft

the bar is higher for him then a 2nd or 3rd liner and when you are taken top 5 in a draft--it is on the stat sheet that you are expected to shine

his brother taken 5th overall is considered a bust and a bottom 6 player now
I get it, the fear is real that he busts, but it was pretty well understood that he was a prospect that needed extra development time. Many of us expected it to take him to his d+3/d+4 year just to make the team.

Now that he has, and is performing well, we are not going to trade him + our best winger + our 3rd best defenseman for McDavids winger and 2 giant gaping holes that used to be NHL players.

On top of that, if we were to add Drais, we would need to clear dollars.

By all means be sceptical of Strome, but he is only 20 and finally made the NHL. Give him 2 more years before you sign his fate as a crap NHLer.
 

ManofSteel55

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Wtf why is every oilers trade proposal I read has pulijarvi in it? Has he regressed that much?
Not regressed, the coaches don't seem to know what to do with him, or don't trust him. They are bringing him along slowly, and it's starting to get frustrating watching a guy with such offensive talent not being given opportunities. Patience is the issue. I'd be okay with moving him, but we need a RW in return as well. I don't like the rest of the deal though, even if Keller and Chycrun are beasts.
 

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