Speculation: Are the Sabres ready for a trade?

[John Eichel da GOAT]

What direction are the Sabres going to trade? Trade the few valuable roster pieces they have for picks and prospects? Or trade picks and prospects for guys they will lose soon?

Per usual, seems like the Sabres have no idea where they stand.

Why though? You either trade your picks/prospects and try to compete now or you trade your expiring assets (UFAs) for futures and admit to competing for the lottery.

There is room in the top 3 of the Atlantic with the Leafs being as weak defensively as we all predicted, so going for it this year is possible, but does anyone think they Sabres are really better than the Panthers, Habs, and Leafs? If not, then build through the draft instead of acquiring crap depth players.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Going to need some offensive firepower coming back to consider trading Reinhart and Risto in a package. Think that conversation starts with JG.

LOL Reinhart and Ristolainen doesnt come close to getting you Gaudreau.

Pretend I just offered you Vrana and Orlov for Eichel. Or JT Miller and Edler for Eichel.

 

[Chainshot]

LOL Reinhart and Ristolainen doesnt come close to getting you Gaudreau.

Pretend I just offered you Vrana and Orlov for Eichel. Or JT Miller and Edler for Eichel.

Pretend you even watch the Sabres.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Pretend you even watch the Sabres.

That is an insult to Gaudreau. Reinhart has been fine; good I would even say, but guess who is on the ice with him for over 90% of his shifts. Ristolainen has been garbage all season. He at least usually puts up points, but isn't even doing that anymore.

So trade a player who depends on another top 10-20 player in the league (Eichel) and has yet to show he can do anything on his own and a defensive liabilty to a team that doesn't need defensive help for their offensive MVP. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Chainshot]

That is an insult to Gaudreau. Reinhart has been fine; good I would even say, but guess who is on the ice with him for over 90% of his shifts. Ristolainen has been garbage all season. He at least usually puts up points, but isn't even doing that anymore.

So trade a player who depends on another top 10-20 player in the league (Eichel) and has yet to show he can do anything on his own and a defensive liabilty to a team that doesn't need defensive help for their offensive MVP. Makes perfect sense.

No, it's an insult to your post. Gaudreau isn't being dealt to the Sabres.

 

[YP44]

Toffoli plus Toronto's 1st in 2020 for Risto would work for both teams IMO.

Why is Carolina Giving Toronto's pick to Buffalo?

 

[Chainshot]

Why is Carolina Giving Toronto's pick to Buffalo?

Kindheartedness. Clearly.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

No, it's an insult to your post. Gaudreau isn't being dealt to the Sabres.

You do realize I was replying to someone else who said this:

"Going to need some offensive firepower coming back to consider trading Reinhart and Risto in a package. Think that conversation starts with JG."

 

[Chainshot]

You do realize I was replying to someone else who said this:

"Going to need some offensive firepower coming back to consider trading Reinhart and Risto in a package. Think that conversation starts with JG."

And you do realize that you could point out that it is almost completely unlikely to happen without making a stupid player exaggeration?

 

[DJN21]

Why though? You either trade your picks/prospects and try to compete now or you trade your expiring assets (UFAs) for futures and admit to competing for the lottery.

There is room in the top 3 of the Atlantic with the Leafs being as weak defensively as we all predicted, so going for it this year is possible, but does anyone think they Sabres are really better than the Panthers, Habs, and Leafs? If not, then build through the draft instead of acquiring crap depth players.

quoting yourself somehow and making wide ranged player evaluations rarely equals a good response. Also you clearly have a chip on your shoulder against the Sabres for whatever personal reason given your own responses so in turn I'll take them with a grain of salt and an eye roll.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

LOL Reinhart and Ristolainen doesnt come close to getting you Gaudreau.

Pretend I just offered you Vrana and Orlov for Eichel. Or JT Miller and Edler for Eichel.

You’re a child.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

quoting yourself somehow and making wide ranged player evaluations rarely equals a good response. Also you clearly have a chip on your shoulder against the Sabres for whatever personal reason given your own responses so in turn I'll take them with a grain of salt and an eye roll.

I just blocked him. He’s in every Sabres thread.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

DONE! I will drive Risto to the airport.

The funny part of Risto hate is he's still Sabres #1 D man. What are they like without him? LOL

 

[Moskau]

The funny part of Risto hate is he's still Sabres #1 D man. What are they like without him? LOL

God they might finish bottom 5 without him.

2014–15	82	23	51	8	54	161	274	8th, Atlantic	Did not qualify
2015–16	82	35	36	11	81	201	222	7th, Atlantic	Did not qualify
2016–17	82	33	37	12	78	201	237	8th, Atlantic	Did not qualify
2017–18	82	25	45	12	62	199	280	8th, Atlantic	Did not qualify
2018–19	82	33	39	10	76	226	271	6th, Atlantic	Did not qualify

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[YP44]

Would gladly take Risto in LA.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

If we're worried that Mitts is too old to show much offense at the NHL level what would Buffalo expect from Kempe?

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

And you do realize that you could point out that it is almost completely unlikely to happen without making a stupid player exaggeration?

1. Not an exaggeration at all. An equal comparison in player quality. Vrana=Reinhart=Miller. Everyone > Risto
2. What is the point of this board? If someone throws out Gaudreau in a trade demand when referring to a Reinhart/Risto package, they deserved to be called out for wtf.

quoting yourself somehow and making wide ranged player evaluations rarely equals a good response. Also you clearly have a chip on your shoulder against the Sabres for whatever personal reason given your own responses so in turn I'll take them with a grain of salt and an eye roll.

Obviously I didn't mean to quote myself. I was the one who started the "Sabres look good" thread that is now 40-some pages deep. I want them to succeed, but they constantly make dumb moves and the ones brought up in this thread are more of the same. Lets just continue down another decade of mediocrity. Either go ham Blue Jackets style or blow it up. Trading more blah depth players isn't going to get them into the playoffs. The teams in front of them are too good.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Why is Carolina Giving Toronto's pick to Buffalo?

I think it's an overdue apology for what happened in the '07 playoffs when they ruined the best chance Buffalo ever had to win a cup.

 

[BatVader]

Why is Carolina Giving Toronto's pick to Buffalo?

Paying it forward after Bergevin gifted them that Aho contract.
Then Buffalo will have to do a service for another team.
And so on, and so on...

 

[truthbluth]

Paying it forward after Bergevin gifted them that Aho contract.
Then Buffalo will have to do a service for another team.
And so on, and so on...

I believe Buffalo already gave St Louis a cup soooooo.........

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Kindheartedness. Clearly.

Jerks don't have kind hearts.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think it's an overdue apology for what happened in the '07 playoffs when they ruined the best chance Buffalo ever had to win a cup.

So now you want to include Ottawa in the mix as well?

 

[CaptPantalones]

Not if you listened to his media scrum before the game.. yes jason, we know d depth is important... but moving one of our NINE nhl defenseman for a forward when you're down 3 forwards is probably something to look into

 

[BatVader]

I believe Buffalo already gave St Louis a cup soooooo.........

...hmmm..... true, true

 

[Selanne00008]

Reinhart, and to a lesser degree, Ristolainen would fit in well with the flames. Need a 2nd line right winger who can score badly. Also need some toughness on the right side D.

Would something around Bennett + Hanafin get the conversation started?

Ideally flames would offer Bennett + Brodie + 2nd round pick or 2nd tier prospect. Valamaki, Anderrson or Pelletier probably prevents it from happening.

I hardly follow the sabres so the value could be off by a wide margin. What would the price be on Reinhart alone ?

Yeah I mean, if we are moving Reinhart or Reinhart + then it is to improve the offense. So trading for Hanafin isn't working for us. A Ristoleinen + much more for Monahan or Johnny Hockey I'd like, obviously