Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by DownGoesMcDavid, Dec 7, 2018.
Can't see the Bruins making it
The Leafs have a guy that ripped half of the beard outta Joe Thornton's face before the game opening faceoff. Even Chuck Norris wouldn't do that. If that's not tough, I don't know what is..
The Leafs just let Matthews get slammed into the boards by the Detroit Redwings and they did absolutely nothing.
Not many teams would let their star player get squashed without consequences.
Are the Leafs tough enough?
Have to protect the Matthews, Marner and Rielly to have success in the PO's. If they play TB of Buf in the first round they should be ok because the can compete skill for skill but if they play Boston they are in trouble. The Bruins can compete with them on skill and beat them up if they choose to so which they probably will. In the PO's you need skill and toughness which the Leaf's have one part of the equation. As a Jet fan this is where the Jets have the Leaf's beat for PO success. The Jets can match any team on skill, speed, depth, size and toughness. They can hurt your best players and defend their own best players and still match your team's skill. The Caps did this last year. they could match any team as the biggest/toughest skill team in the PO's which gave them the edge to win it all. They had the skill, size, depth, toughness, and experience to be the best.
Toronto needs at lease one player that is skilled enough to be a contributor to the teams success and still be tough enough and big enough to protect their top players. They get that and maybe a upgrade on D they may be favorites to win it all.
well, we have so many stars, it's tough to protect them all...
Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Rielly...
We have our own constellation system .... freaking milky way on our hands.
I don't think it's important to have a lot of hitters to win the Cup.
I think it's crucial that players on your team are able to absorb a lot of physical contact and maintain their effectiveness. You can hit Crosby, Kane or Ovechkin until you are blue in the face. It won't make a spec of difference. I'm not sure the same can be said about a number of Maple Leaf players.
Also, it's a REALLY BAD idea to count on refs calling plays by the rule book come playoff time. Chances of it happening are slim.
No, they would probably not even be able to suit up, maybe the would even melt!
Clearly the Leafs need to get rid of all those real good players who do meaningless things like score lots of goals and replace them with unskilled plugs who can win line brawls.
If and likely when the Leafs don't win the Cup I can assure you it won't be due to a lack of toughness.
New Kids on the Block, how tough do the Leafs need to be for the playoffs?
hopefully the Jets play the Preds and get bounced in the first round!
Trade Marner for Lucic.
Playoff success is really dictated by your ability to play the game the way you want, and the Leafs want to play a clean, fast, skilled game. That said, they do need to be tough enough to still be able to execute at a high level when faced with a ton of physical abuse, and they also need to learn to play a chippier game when required to deter the other team from taking liberties. Is a guy like Kronwall throwing your skill guys around? Make sure your skill guys are getting their sticks up so you're giving some of the abuse back.
might as well trade all the skill and speed the leafs have so they can miss the playoffs, but play rough and tough hockey of years past, sounds good lol, no thanks
We all know that Jets will play Vegas and get bounced in the first round.
I am actually looking forward to Nashville or The Jets smoking Vegass in the playoffs.
No. They are so weak they will lose in the first round after game 2. That's how weak they are.
Seeing threads like this....am I the only one who misses the annual Don Cherry Rock'em Sock'em Hockey releases?
Edit: apparently they are still making them....with what content I dunno. But this is the last year.
Most overused word in Leaf land.
You would think the Leafs are the only team that people hate across the league.
I think this leafs team will break the cup drought for Toronto - and it will be a hell of a party then - but i don't think this is the year. This team will be better in the next few seasons as the young players get more experience behind them. Can see them coming close, but not getting all the way this year.
Toughness is important in the playoffs, as a Canucks fan I’ve witnessed this first hand as the Sedin led Canucks were often the more skilled team, but would get out muscled more and more each round. The game changes in the playoffs and the refs have a tendency to put the whistles away, the further you go the nastier it gets, without toughness you’re going to get pummeled. Smith-Pelly, Wilson, Orpik and company brought it for the Caps. You need Toughness along side Skill when the intensity really ramps up.
Physicality matters less, but not sure they are mentally tough enough to shake the first round hump
10 years ago, the way teams we're built, they wouldn't be able to follow the game and the pace of the current youngters. the size wouldn't matter.
Nah, they probably are first round exit again. Nothing resembling of toughness in that team. Gone are the days of Horton, Mahovlich, Roberts, Clark etc.
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