the valiant effort
settle down, bud
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Last year was Julien's first losing season over a full schedule, so I don't think he's on the cusp of being squeezed out of the league...
Looser attitude.... Way better to play the best you can, give the best show you can for your paying fans, make players evolve in a winning environment. Why did Vegas did not suck bad last season. They had all the rights to do it and grab Dahlin at the end. No, they decided to compete from Day ONE and never let go.
[QUOTE="Kaperi Spacey, post: 150412675, member: 224371"]Vegas was full of reject who had something to prove, not the same context as MTL, and those Cinderella stories happens once in million year...
Who is our Karlsson ? Our Perron ? Our Smith ? Who is our Marchessault ? Our Schmidt
"Once you are in the playoff, everything can happen" It's because of that stupid mentality that we are sucking/giving false hopes to the fans since 1993.
Vegas is a great story
How come every single new expansion teams sucked so hard since decades ? Do you think these players were not feeling "reject" ?
This xpac draft was a lot more generous than the past ones.
I'm not sure what happened here but my quote didnt come out right.
Sure, Vegas had more generous draft terms, but I'll bet you seattle with similar rules does not get near that level of success in the first year. You can do this 99 more times, and I feel like you will strike gold, like once.
I always refer back to this.... who expected vegas to be great when the expansion draft just took place? Generous draft rules or not, that was totally out of left field.
Unless they find their own William Karlsson and can grab an almost HOF level goalie at the end of his career (like Price) nope they probably wont. I don't want to diminish McPhee success (even though i'll admit i don't like him at all) but i highly doubt he (or anyone else) foresaw William Karlsson blossoming into an elite player. I did not watch Vegas much last season and when the playoffs started i was ready to watch them crumble like a card castle. Then by watching them i realized William Karlsson was legitimately playing like an elite player (up until the scf where he was meh).
I think people don't give Karlsson and Marchesault enough credit. Both of them last year played like elite talents. Will they be able to bring this level of play back this season? I don't know but if they can't it will be a lot harder for Vegas. Depth is not as great as some people think it is imo. We've been playing the depth card for 25 years without any success.
I did not follow the draft much but did not Florida had the option to protect one less dman and one more forward? They apparently protected Mark Pysyk and Petrovic and exposed Marchessault ...
I did not follow the draft much but did not Florida had the option to protect one less dman and one more forward? They apparently protected Mark Pysyk and Petrovic and exposed Marchessault ...
Karlsson probably wasn't even slated to be their #1 center imo. That was probably supposed to be Schipachev (sp?). Funny how that worked out.
As for MAF, yeah he had a strong season, but here's another crazy thing. MAF missed significant time. The club went through 5 goalies, and still managed to post a 22-11-3 record without him.
I mean, you can't write this stuff.
Marchessault was left exposed as part of the trade to take Smith. It was never announced that way, but that's the only thing that makes sense.
Otherwise Florida exposed him for no reason (either way: dumb)
It's a pretty bad move either way. I mean i'm not a big fan of Smith but if he is the biggest problem your team have then you don't really have a problem at all. I'm still not sold 100% on Marchessault but it's a big price to pay to get rid of Smith.
Habs are definitely playing a high tempo game. The players are buying in to the system, but they haven’t mastered it yet. I am expecting some bumps in the road ahead, but I am also expecting the team to improve ... especially after we get Weber back.
My only concern is that if we start to pile up some losses, that Julien gets timid, and re-deploys his sucky system. It happened to our team back in the Subban days. There was about a 1 month period where we played exciting hockey, but we got a few losses, and we went back to dump and chase.
Is this the LV system? I don’t know. They were a tight knit high confidence team by the end of the season. They had a system and they stuck to it. I’m sure their story inspired many people, but that is probably as far as it goes.
Looking forward to Drouin getting in to the groove and playing well. He has been sucky so far. Also, when game 9 rolls around, we will have the KK question to answer. Our team’s success, and whether we emulate the LV mold will depend a lot on what happens in the next 20 games .... what we are doing now may not be sustainable for long ... or it may work super well. We don’t know what is happening in the locker room ... so, who knows.
At times, Subban gave Martin and Cunneyworth fits as well.The rift between Therrien and Subban started there. You could see Subban didnt like the direction and played against his coach's orders.
it was years ago, we had just missed the playoffs the year before. And there it was; the panel of idiots making general assumptions about what was going to happen, covering all the ''ifs'' and ''maybes'' on TSN prior to the season. Giving props to the teams that looked good on paper (like the leafs this year) ... it was sickening as a fan, the ultimate torture. Then they were asked which team that they thought would get back in the playoffs. Bob Mac confidently picked Montreal, making the others laugh. What he said was that its not tolerable to consistently miss the playoffs in Montreal, and that we had a solid track record of being able to bounce back and at least make the playoffs. contenders ? not even by a stretch.
''we are in the business of winning hockey games''
well, not anymore, no. Habs are in the business of entertainment and if that can finally reach the front office's line of thought - to realize that the way we win (or lose) matters - then this organization will make a giant step forward.
My point is that it was always in our DNA in the last decades to overachieve with average teams, if we can keep our fighting spirit WHILE getting fresh talent like Kotkaniemi, we can turn things around. Talented players need to play our way, not wonder around with the puck while everyone else ''wait'' for them to create. So far, I like what I see and most importantly... I enjoy watching the team, win or lose.
Ya I really hate watching all those very skilled guys create things on the ice...
How does that make the slightest bit of sense..