Speculation: Are Right Handed Defense traded less often ?

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  1. HamiltonNHL

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    Anyone seen any stats on right handed D ?

    Do they make more money than their lefty counterparts ?

    Are right handed D traded less often ?

    How many right handed shot D does your team have in the Top 6 D ?

    Of all the Top 6 D on the 31 teams. How many righties are there ?
     
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    According to HF, RHD are unicorns that crap out gold coins so they never get moved unless you overpay with an arm, a leg and your testicles.
     
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    According to Cap Friendly there's 92 current RHDs and 131 LHDs on active rosters.

    They do seem to get traded less because teams aren't itching to get rid of the good RHDs they have.
     
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    RHD On average make more than LHD
     
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    HF is right again !
     
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    and I bet their stats as a group are worse !
    Less production, worse CF%.
     
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    IMO there are a lot of RHD and they are traded, but top 4 RHD are rare and traded less often.
     
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    That's probably the most important question:

    How many of the 124 Top 4 D are right handed ?

    Of teams with one good RHD, how many have 2 ?
     
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    The funny part is of the top 20-30 dmen, maybe 75% of them are right handed?
     
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    I still can’t figure out where all the righties went.

    Was there a stick shortage some time 17 years ago? Sorry kid. Learn to play the other side. Dad can’t afford to get these custom made
     
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    If there are fewer of them, it would make sense they get traded less since they make up a lower percentage of the population too (if there are 100 LH players and 50 RH, not taking into account needs, 2 LH players would theoretically get traded for every 1 RH player traded... all things being equal). Then, like you said, you factor in the need for good RHD and that would skew the numbers even more.
     
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    look at the top dmen in terms of compensation... Burns, Carlson, Doughty (next contract @11M), EK65 (also pending next contract), Weber, APO, Ekblad, Letang, Subban, Buff, Seabrook, Shatty.... all RHD.

    8 of the top 10 in terms of cap hit are righties. Suter and Hedman are only lefties... Vlasic/Phaneuf are tied with Doughty at 7M but Doughty's next deal @11M will cement him in the top 10. EK65 next deal will likely land him in the top 10 too

    edit - forgot OEL, his next contract will land in the top as well as a lefty
     
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    How much of it has to do with puck control? Since control is with the hand at the top of the stick, if a player that is normally right hand dominant plays with a LH stick, they get more control out of it (and control is a lot more important for a d-man). Offense is what tends to get paid, and it is easier to shoot with your dominant hand... which might be why most of the top paid d-men are righties (like mentioned above). Are there any numbers of how many players are RH dominant but play LH or the other way around?
     
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    Bottom pairing RHD are nothing special. Connor Carrick was traded for a conditional 6th, McQuaid was traded for a bunch of junk.

    Top4 RHD are probably a little more valuable than their LHD counterparts, but not nearly as much as HF seems to think.
     
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    based on money or eye test or stats or perceived value ?
     
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    Consider the fact that roughly 90% of the broader population is right-handed.

    The "old" theory goes... at a very young age (we're talking 5-10), on a team of 15 kids, there will be 3 or 4 that shoot left handed. Those left handed players will get more opportunity, and in turn become better players... vicious cycle.
     
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    right handed.

    Most players are left handed shot.
     
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    All those poor children that can’t use can openers. Surprised they made it!!!
     
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    Yes, because as soon as you trade one, you immediately say "oh crap, their goes our RHD depth".

    Look at the Wild. Spurgeon. Dumba. Pateryn. Prosser. Then Murphy and Belpidio in the AHL. Not to mention Brodin is a LHD that has played his best hockey as a RD. Probably top of the league in terms of RHD depth.

    But if they were to trade Spurgeon or Dumba for say Nylander, then they are immediately concerned about how to fill that void.
     
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    Timmins’ serious concussion kind of muddies the situation a bit, but the Avs are a weird outlier where good RHD are plentiful. EJ, Barrie, Makar, Timmins, and Meloche are all righties while the left really only has Zadorov and Girard with Cole as a decent option as well.
     
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    Cole also prefers RD. Makar can play both and prefers LD.
     
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    I’m well aware what Makar said in an interview, I don’t think Bednar will play him there and he doesn’t play there now. Having a Makar Cole pairing is not something an NHL coach is going to do.
     
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    I'd say it'd be more accurate to say that defensemen overall, and especially capable ones are traded less often as over the past few years every team is looking for more and better D. Its a hard position to come by and when a team has em they usually don't move them.
     
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    Damn the habs are like the only team loaded with RDs now and in the prospect pool but have a terribly weak LD side.
    RDs:
    Weber
    Petry
    Brook
    Juulsen
    Fleury
    And some more depth guys.
     
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    Right handed is not the same thing as a right shot. Most people are right handed. Most right handed people shoot left. Right handed defensemen are MORE common than left handed defensemen, while right shooting defensemen are less common.
     
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