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KingPuckChoo

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Antti Niemi says hello and that he likes your argument very much.

There is no way an intelligent GM gives a "one year wonder" netminder top dollar and term.

i never understood Pejorative Slured hostility like that

i just stated that Binnington's camp will have something to argue, no matter how thin that argument is

which is why he filed for arbitration

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Taylorst

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It's quite fitting all these GMs had blinders on and instead of making sound decisions regarding personnel , contracts and salaries they IMO new York, Florida, Toronto all went out and made moves that look fantastic in that moment , but down the road they did nothing to protect their salary cap and future resignings.

You have to question if trouba was such a great player and Winnipeg future , why didn't they resign him? It's not like they didn't have the money.


Florida went out and overpaid Bob and royally screwed up their future cap for quite frankly a unproven 30 plus year old declining goaltender.

Panarin anther example of a overpaid player , sure he can score some goals and is a gifted player but again with all the talent around him in Columbus and when he was in chicago he never was able to raise his level of play or energy come playoff time.

Toronto still hasn't signed Marner , instead they went out and brought in players whom are high paid and not the teams long term future.
 

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Buch is going to get a nice little pay day with the Rangers. Probably in the 4-7 million range. Have to think Kreider is on his way out before pre season starts.
2 weeks later now...and how is this going to happen? Trouba took 8 of 9.??
No $contract player traded. Buch not signed nor is Lemieux.
-under 1 million to sign those 2? Somebody is on the way out for draft picks/ prospects on ELC 's.
 

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2 weeks later now...and how is this going to happen? Trouba took 8 of 9.??
No $contract player traded. Buch not signed nor is Lemieux.
-under 1 million to sign those 2? Somebody is on the way out for draft picks/ prospects on ELC 's.
Hope Lemieux and Kreidr can make it out west to Colorado for a bag of pucks, and a couple prospects and cases of Coors!! Bottoms up
 

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It's quite fitting all these GMs had blinders on and instead of making sound decisions regarding personnel , contracts and salaries they IMO new York, Florida, Toronto all went out and made moves that look fantastic in that moment , but down the road they did nothing to protect their salary cap and future resignings.

You have to question if trouba was such a great player and Winnipeg future , why didn't they resign him? It's not like they didn't have the money.


Florida went out and overpaid Bob and royally screwed up their future cap for quite frankly a unproven 30 plus year old declining goaltender.

Panarin anther example of a overpaid player , sure he can score some goals and is a gifted player but again with all the talent around him in Columbus and when he was in chicago he never was able to raise his level of play or energy come playoff time.

Toronto still hasn't signed Marner , instead they went out and brought in players whom are high paid and not the teams long term future.
Trouba was NEVER going to sign long term in Winnipeg, or any Canadian market. No reason to blame Jets for Not signing him long term. He was offered 4 times, long term deals and HE turned everyone down.
Nothing to do with "such a great player, why didn't they sign him long term"...
Trouba was a great fit for his PLAY on the Jets. That's it. Not saying he is such a great player or ever was. His draft projection, pedigree, potential all gave excitement toward him being such a great player some day.
 

Taylorst

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Trouba was NEVER going to sign long term in Winnipeg, or any Canadian market. No reason to blame Jets for Not signing him long term. He was offered 4 times, long term deals and HE turned everyone down.
Nothing to do with "such a great player, why didn't they sign him long term"...
Trouba was a great fit for his PLAY on the Jets. That's it. Not saying he is such a great player or ever was. His draft projection, pedigree, potential all gave excitement toward him being such a great player some day.



To label trouba a great player , when that player himself hasn't done anything as of yet to say that he is a great player.

How many Stanley cup rings or Norris trophies does he have ?

It wasn't like he was playing on a bad or mediocre team.

When a player holds out or pouts about his contract, you have to wonder is that player a good fit for the team ?

Every hockey player makes great money period. Some earn more than others that's life, however it's easier for a GM to hand out a contract or salary if said player has earned it, rather than a player just demanding a certain number because he wants it.

Look at Nylander he held out and than got his payday and he was MIA in terms of producing to the level expected for that contract.

Trouba might be a good defenseman , but I wouldn't say great he is far from that use of term .

He might even be more so just a lockeroom cancer
 

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To label trouba a great player , when that player himself hasn't done anything as of yet to say that he is a great player.

How many Stanley cup rings or Norris trophies does he have ?
I don't think it's fair to suggest a player can only be called "great" if they have been deemed the best in the League, or if their team has won a championship...

Elite, exceptional, generational - yeah those are fairly fair indicators for those adjectives, but you can be "great" without winning those things
 

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2 weeks later now...and how is this going to happen? Trouba took 8 of 9.??
No $contract player traded. Buch not signed nor is Lemieux.
-under 1 million to sign those 2? Somebody is on the way out for draft picks/ prospects on ELC 's.

Well I did say Kreider would probably be on the outs lol. Maybe it’s time to get Hank to a contender as well. Staal, Smith, and possibly Shatty will need a bad contract coming back to the rangers unless buy outs are on the table. Don’t really see to many options.
 

Taylorst

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I don't think it's fair to suggest a player can only be called "great" if they have been deemed the best in the League, or if their team has won a championship...

Elite, exceptional, generational - yeah those are fairly fair indicators for those adjectives, but you can be "great" without winning those things


How is a person defined by success or being recognized in his or her field or position.
It's by what they have achieved above and beyond their peers.

So when defining trouba he hasn't won any Stanley cups, or won a Norris trophy, or scoring title or etc.

Since the incarnation of sports players are recognized by achievements that their peers or play similar positions that make them standout head and shoulders above the rest.

Therefore Trouba is not a great defenseman , he is in the prime of his career and quite frankly he is just a good defenseman , not great , not a hall of fame neither.
 
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