Player Discussion Antti Niemi (Signed in the KHL)

[26Mats]

He played amazing last year. Maybe we have Dahlin without him.

This year, not so much.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

Niemi is a stop gap for Lindgren to.be the backup hopefully next year.

We have no idea if Lindgren has what it takes though.
He has been struggling in Laval this year ...

I just checked and most 2nd goalies are pretty bad around the NHL. Most of them are below 0.900%.

 

[Gabriiel40]

We have no idea if Lindgren has what it takes though.
He has been struggling in Laval this year ...

I just checked and most 2nd goalies are pretty bad around the NHL.

Yeah I'm pretty sure a lot more goals are going in due to the new chest protectors.

 

[BaseballCoach]

We have no idea if Lindgren has what it takes though.
He has been struggling in Laval this year ...

I just checked and most 2nd goalies are pretty bad around the NHL. Most of them are below 0.900%.

But .870 bad?

 

[Rafafouille]

Niemi is a stop gap for Lindgren to.be the backup hopefully next year.

Is this supposed to be a relief? Lindgren is 25 years old and has been one of the worst goalies in the Ahl for the past two years. Lindgren is not an upgrade over niemi.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

We have no idea if Lindgren has what it takes though.
He has been struggling in Laval this year ...

I just checked and most 2nd goalies are pretty bad around the NHL. Most of them are below 0.900%.

Lindgren is better that his stats shows. The bad thing is we will need to keep Niemi at least until Lindgren returns from his injury.

 

[Treb]

Is this supposed to be a relief? Lindgren is 25 years old and has been one of the worst goalies in the Ahl for the past two years. Lindgren is not an upgrade over niemi.

I don't think we're watching the same goalie...

 

[OldCraig71]

Remember earlier this season when some posters were saying he was better than Price? I remember.

I posted this in the GDT and I remember as well.

 

[Genesis76]

I never knew a goalie could be so bad. He’s horrific. Worse than awful. I don’t understand how he’s in the NHL. He lets in minimum 4 goals a game. The team has to play a perfect game with him in nets and even then there’s still a good chance we lose. I want to put him on waivers or have him traded for 2025 conditional 7th rounder. I wouldn’t want to burden any other teams with Niemi though. I’d feel pretty bad allowing another team to take him on.

Honestly, with a straight face. how is this that much better:

 

[Treb]

I mean how is this that much better:View attachment 170307

It's 12 fewer goals per 10 games better?

EDIT: Other way to see it
With Price, you usually win if you score 3 goals.
With Niemi, you usually win if you score 5 goals.

 

[Genesis76]

It's 12 fewer goals per 10 games better?

OP waited for a loss on a B2B game againts TB to make this thread.

A b2b againts a top team,
We re blaming the goalie for this loss yet no one is talking about the horrible D.

Quite Ironic.

 

[Treb]

OP waited for a loss on a B2B game againts TB to make this thread.

A b2b againts a top team, yet no one is talking about the horrible D. Quite Ironic.

He was .877 4.01 at 9 games.

He's now .870 4.22 at 10 games.

He was still over 4 goal per game before that game.

EDIT: That now make it 14 goals per 10 games, my bad.

 

[LaP]

OP waited for a loss on a B2B game againts TB to make this thread.

A b2b againts a top team,
We re blaming the goalie for this loss yet no one is talking about the horrible D.

Quite Ironic.

I think you probably missed the last 2 years where outside of a few games in Montreal he was not able to stop a beach ball in Dallas, Pittsburgh and Florida.

 

[Genesis76]

He was .877 4.01 at 9 games.

He's now .870 4.22 at 10 games.

He was still over 4 goal per game before that game.

Im not defending Niemi. No one had any expectations for this guy.

But top 33 for the starter who's paid 10.5 sounds like a much bigger concern. Niemi is expandable i dont see a point on bashing him.

 

[Treb]

Im not defending Niemi. No one had any expectations for this guy.

But top 33 for the starter who's paid 10.5 sounds like a much bigger concern. Niemi is expandable i dont see a point on bashing him.

Well it's the Niemi thread, so it's the place to discuss him. If you don't want to see other people's opinion on Niemi, don't open the thread.

 

[Genesis76]

Well it's the Niemi thread, so it's the place to discuss him. If you don't want to see other people's opinion on Niemi, don't open the thread.

Mmm it wasn't until it got merged. And i'm pretty sure I posted while it was still a thread on its on. So yeah.

 

[LaP]

Im not defending Niemi. No one had any expectations for this guy.

But top 33 for the starter who's paid 10.5 sounds like a much bigger concern. Niemi is expandable i dont see a point on bashing him.

That's not true at all. I've been bashed many times last year for saying he was playing well over his head.

 

[NobleSix]

That's not true at all. I've been bashed many times last year for saying he was playing well over his head.

Yep, me too. Laughed at and mocked in the Niemi Resigning thread.

The guy is just not good in any of the technical aspects of goaltending, and stylistically he is a mess.

To a much lesser extent, he is the Clarkson/Belesky/etc of goaltending. One good/fluky season earns him a contract and then his play reverts to the norm because his fundamental skills are lacking. This is why actually paying attention to how a player plays is so important, rather than simply looking at stats.

I think @le_sean was dead-on in the GDT. It would have been better to hold on to Mason for his last year rather than buy him out. I understand that's a revisionist outlook on the situation, but still. Mason is a very capable backup goaltender and one that I'd have more confidence in than Niemi, especially with Winnipeg retaining on his contract and the amount if cap space we have.

 

[sandviper]

Honestly, with a straight face. how is this that much better:View attachment 170307

We get it, you hate Price.

Regardless if you think ~0.4% is significant or not, Niemi has been trash.

But top 33 for the starter who's paid 10.5 sounds like a much bigger concern. Niemi is expandable i dont see a point on bashing him.

This is a Niemi thread so opinions of him go here. We can discuss Price but honestly, bashing Price is also tiresome and even MORE pointless because unlike Niemi who we know is gone after this year, Price we’re locked in for the long haul as he has a NMC.

 

[JuicyHam]

Im not defending Niemi. No one had any expectations for this guy.

But top 33 for the starter who's paid 10.5 sounds like a much bigger concern. Niemi is expandable i dont see a point on bashing him.

Price is a completely separate issue. Niemi is losing the team games and it has nothing to do with how well price is playing.

 

[Fixxer]

Maybe Niemi gets the start against Dallas and proves them he's still got it (shutout) !

 

[Vachon23]

Price is a completely separate issue. Niemi is losing the team games and it has nothing to do with how well price is playing.

His proving that he make a great job behind this defense when we put an other goaler, it's really tough...

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

From zero to hero to zero to hero, to zero again

 

[Rafafouille]

I don't think we're watching the same goalie...

Last year: 886%, 50th(2nd last) in AHL

This year: 891%, 39th in AHL

 

[sampollock]

has to go, too old, to slow, no good.

thanks but you must go