Post-Game Talk: Another Tampa fiasco

[billingtons ghost]

At this point, I think he should be waived, just to salvage what could be left of him. Waive him with the purpose of giving him a couple weeks of AHL games to try to get his game together. Don't waive him to punish him or get him off the team (at least not yet), but to try and get his game going, because I don't think we can send him for another conditioning stint. Maybe we can? We did with Jimmy Hayes last year when he wasn't playing, but then we can only have him there for 3 games? I'd like to see him play about 6 games right now in the AHL before you call him back up.

Just call up Lack (don't play him though! God no) and have him back up for 2 weeks and send Cory down. No one's gonna claim him, not with 3 years left at big money.

And if you're Hynes, Shero and Melanson, you let Cory know that this is pretty much a conditioning stint, not that we're getting rid of you for good or anything like that.

He won't clear. Not with luongo, quick, vasilevsky etc all down...

 

[Emperoreddy]

I agree. And it is all confidence. Too deep in his net. Tentative. Not flowing, not instinctive. Ugly loss tonight and really just about as ugly as I've seen from him.

That first goal is a pure mental error.

 

[Emperoreddy]

He won't clear. Not with luongo, quick, vasilevsky etc all down...

LA can’t afford his contract. I don’t think Tampa can either. I don’t see how Florida would think taking on that contract helps him.

 

[Bleedred]

He won't clear. Not with luongo, quick, vasilevsky etc all down...

If this was his last year or he had one more year left after this, I think it's a possibility. Not at this point, I don't see anyone picking him up.

If he were a UFA and we bought him out, I think someone would sign him to a one year deal because of who he used to be, but I don't see anyone taking this contract. Maybe St. Louis would take him if we took Allen back, but that's not worth it.

The only way I see someone taking him is if one of those teams wants to claim him and says to Shero ''Can we take your guy for now? And after our guy comes back we'll put him back on waivers, then can you take him back? Because we can't afford to keep him in the minors or on our cap for the next 3 years'' and who knows. Shero might even turn around and say ''Hey, you claimed him, you deal with him, he's your mess now, you should have thought about that before you decided to claim him''.

 

[billingtons ghost]

LA can’t afford his contract. I don’t think Tampa can either. I don’t see how Florida would think taking on that contract helps him.

But he has reclamation project all over him. You need to keep trotting him out there. He's too big a name for a league that has some really crappy goalies playing. If you waive him, we'd see him instead of Reimer.

I believe that cap is calculated based on ir time as well, so if you have your number1 on ir, you can afford to pay for Cory.. then waive him when your guy comes back.

 

[Emperoreddy]

But he has reclamation project all over him. You need to keep trotting him out there. He's too big a name for a league that has some really crappy goalies playing. If you waive him, we'd see him instead of Reimer.

With a $6 million for 3 more years price tag. For a 32 year old goalie. No one should be lining up to put that on their books.

Especially as an injury fill in.

 

[billingtons ghost]

With a $6 million for 3 more years price tag. For a 32 year old goalie. No one should be lining up to put that on their books.

Especially as an injury fill in.

You're right.. I'm wrong. The 3 yrs are prohibitive if you got stuck and no one claimed him

 

[glenwo2]

Goal 1 was ALL HIS FAULT! He gave the puck away, there shouldn't have even been a shot on goal.

Goal 2: That's a shot that hits him right in the chest in the days when he was still good. Not saying he didn't occasionally allow that goal, but he probably stopped it 80% or more percent of the time. This is not a good goal. He was in position for this one and it just beat him.

Goal 3: No chance

Goal 4: Fluky but another stoppable one.

Goal 5: Vatanen with a beautiful snipe. Can't fault Cory for getting beat by his own teammate, unless it was from the blue line or something.

At the very least, I'd hope he'd stop at least two of goals 1, 2 or 4.

And the worst part about tonight? BOTH goals on Domingue were terrible. He should have had a shutout tonight, but he gives the puck away like Cory did on the first Devils goal, then he gets beat by a shot that goes right through him from Bratt.

Or maybe give credit to a good shot attempt by Bratt instead of trying to minimize his goal?

 

[Emperoreddy]

You're right.. I'm wrong. The 3 yrs are prohibitive if you got stuck and no one claimed him

You want one of those taking him. Better chance trading with full retention and taking a bad contract back.

 

[MadDevil]

Up until Schneider was injured in the Boston Game January 23rd, his save percentage up until that point was
.915%.

He started off well last season, the whole team did, and he got worse as the season dragged on. Then he got hurt in the Boston game, and was complete dog **** when he came back.

Kinkaid’s save percentage is .914% this season.

If you got look back and compare the starts between Kinkaid and Schneider, Kinkaid actually posted the higher save precentage against tougher teams.

Kinkaid is the better goalie at this point, and this team better keep him instead of worrying about how foolish management looks handing Schneider the contract he has, which now looks horrible.

Lou gave him that contract, not Shero.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Might have the best tanking opportunity of all time.

If kk goes down, we could seriously go 0-50-10 the rest of the way.

 

[NJ07102]

Okay, you had me.... Until Wedgewood.

Wedge was the worst I could think of. But even his NHL stats are substantially better than Cory's since Schneiders "streak" began.

 

[Bleedred]

Or maybe give credit to a good shot attempt by Bratt instead of trying to minimize his goal?

BAH! No such a thing as a bad shot on goal, or so the cliche goes! But the goalie could have had it, right through the arm? Not a good one on him.

 

[Bleedred]

Might have the best tanking opportunity of all time.

If kk goes down, we could seriously go 0-50-10 the rest of the way.

I don't think it would be that bad, Cory would win games on accident somehow, but with the Cory we've seen this year, I think there's potential to be one of the worst Devils teams of all time if he were to start 50=60 games.

 

[MadDevil]

It's actually kind of incredible that during this run of futility of Cory's that he hasn't won once just by pure luck. You'd think just playing the averages there'd be a 5-4 or 4-3 win somewhere in there.

 

[Bleedred]

It's actually kind of incredible that during this run of futility of Cory's that he hasn't won once just by pure luck. You'd think just playing the averages there'd be a 5-4 or 4-3 win somewhere in there.

I agree with you. We see goalies win games where they allow 3 or 4 goals sometimes.

So am I gonna say he should have a respectable record during this stretch? Absolutely not.

Has he been unlucky to not have maybe 2-4 wins during it? Definitely.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Lemaire would say "they're all out of shape"

He would say "It looks like they lost their ability to play the game.".

 

[Capt Nico Poo]

Hip surgery is a big thing. This season is already going down the toilet, no need to move Schneider. Keep playing him and see if he can reach his former level. This might take this and even the next season but its not like this team is in a win now mode ( ).

 

[Devils Dominion]

He won't clear. Not with luongo, quick, vasilevsky etc all down...

Waive him if we can acquire someone better than Lack

 

[tr83]

Cory's downward spiral started with the hiring of his goalie coach from Vancouver

 

[The 29th Pick]

I wonder if Shero watches the games anymore, where the hell is he

 

[JimEIV]

You have a coaching staff that has been telling his team as well as the media and anyone else who will listen that they aren't good enough unless they give 100% every night....he has been repeating the same mantra since August/September.

Now add a goalie who is playing at 50%

You have been drilling into their heads that they aren't good enough without total effort for the last 3 months at the same time asking them to play a game where the goalie is going to spot the othet team 1,2 or 3 goals by the middle of the first period.

This situation is in part due to the coaching staff and it's amateurish messaging.

Good thing they fired Terreri in August 2017 huh?

 

[NJDevs26]

But he has reclamation project all over him. You need to keep trotting him out there. He's too big a name for a league that has some really crappy goalies playing. If you waive him, we'd see him instead of Reimer.

I believe that cap is calculated based on ir time as well, so if you have your number1 on ir, you can afford to pay for Cory.. then waive him when your guy comes back.

Except nobody else might take him if a team that claims him waives him again. It's just not happening, either way.

The Devils and Cory should both want him to get change of sceneried at this point, there's too much baggage and bad karma here for this to ever work. It's far more likely to trade him with retention and just be done with it. Either way it's time for a nuclear option of waiving him or trading with full retention. Worst case you have him swapping games with Blackwood in the AHL instead of Lack.

Cory's downward spiral started with the hiring of his goalie coach from Vancouver

Nah he had a bad year before that, that's what neccesitated the coaching change in the first place. If anything Melanson's been better for KK than he has been for Cory

 

[New Jersey]

tfg we only have to play them one more time this season.

i f***ing hate this team again. the perpetual suck is becoming the new normal.

 

[tr83]

Okay, you had me.... Until Wedgewood.

At least Wedge had a chance to throw a shutout. We know that's not happening with Cory, ever