another good article on the present situation

Discussion in 'Fugu's Business of Hockey Forum' started by bhawk24bob, Feb 2, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. bhawk24bob

    bhawk24bob Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    373
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    76
  2. lazaer

    lazaer Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2005
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    e-town
    unless they fix the problems in the league who is going to want to buy these teams.
     
  3. Mess

    Mess Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    75,764
    Likes Received:
    1,065
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Home Page:
    The Shots at Wirtz and Jacobs makes the article a great read ..
     

  4. Those are owners that operate "within their budgets". Thats what all the player apologists want... a league full of Wirtzs' and Jacobs'.
     
  5. oil slick

    oil slick Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2004
    Messages:
    7,593
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    84
    link seems dead. is it an old article?
     
  6. Russian Fan

    Russian Fan Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2003
    Messages:
    2,475
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    That's exactly my thoughts !
     
  7. mooseOAK*

    mooseOAK* Guest

    Sure there are guys like Wirtz around putting pressure on Bettman for the wrong reasons but I believe that the majority of the owners just don't want to lose their shirts on the franchise, they aren't in it to make a lot of money. If they were an NHL franchise is a dumb way to do it if you aren't in a few of the biggest markets.
     
  8. jcab2000

    jcab2000 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2004
    Messages:
    334
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    Yeah, fans love them.
     
  9. Slats432

    Slats432 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2002
    Messages:
    12,815
    Likes Received:
    89
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Home Page:
    The link...she no work....
     
  10. Biggest Canuck Fan

    Biggest Canuck Fan BCF

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    10,922
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Document solutions expert
    Location:
    Abbotsford, BC
    Home Page:
    I think it was a spectacular article.

    I do want to say this... I truly believe the NHL can survive without a cap. The Owners just have to govern themselves and the players and everyone else cannot cry collusion.

    Bottom line.

    If the Owners say, "We are not going to over spend and we have rules in place to prevent this from happening" then why should the PA care.
     
  11. mooseOAK*

    mooseOAK* Guest

    If the owners agree among themselves not to spend money then the PA will definitely cry collusion.
     
  12. Ar-too

    Ar-too Zealous Scrub

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2004
    Messages:
    11,116
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Network Engineer
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Owners governing themselves = collusion
     
  13. Mess

    Mess Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    75,764
    Likes Received:
    1,065
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Home Page:
    Now that is Priceless ..

    Owners set out to run profitable businesses, like any other company in the world by trying to keep cost down and the PA will File collusion ..

    The main purpose of a Hard Cap is to control mistakes and spending by foolish GM's that hurt everyone ..

    This post of yours is a GEM ..,
     
  14. Biggest Canuck Fan

    Biggest Canuck Fan BCF

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    10,922
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Document solutions expert
    Location:
    Abbotsford, BC
    Home Page:
    And that is my point.

    Remember Roenick said the owners have to spend wisely? No one put a gun to their head?

    So as I said the owners are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.
     
  15. mooseOAK*

    mooseOAK* Guest

    How naive.

    NHL or any other sports franchises are not "like any other company in the world".

    If, in their efforts to run a profitable business the owners agree not to sign any free agents thereby depriving the players a chance to earn money then the NHLPA will be screaming collusion. And they would be correct.

    The only way for that not to happen is to have cost control built into the CBA.
     
  16. SENSible1*

    SENSible1* Guest

    Except through a CBA, hence their bargaining stance.
     
  17. Biggest Canuck Fan

    Biggest Canuck Fan BCF

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    10,922
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Document solutions expert
    Location:
    Abbotsford, BC
    Home Page:
    By the way... this is collusion...

    A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.

    So if the owners outright tell the players we will not pay those salary demands, and if other owners say we will not either, and there is no secret agreement to drfraud or decieve, then how is it collusion?
     
  18. mooseOAK*

    mooseOAK* Guest

    At the very least they will have to prove in a court of law that it is not collusion and just an amazing coincidence because the NHLPA would not stand idly by and let that happen.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"