Rumor: Andrei Markov's Agent Has Contacted Habs (Looking for $2M Contract)

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Well not having Markov was pretty much the reason Mete made the team 2 years ago and was thrust into a the role he had. Yet he still hasn't scored a goal in the NHL, and last year had to be sent back to the AHL to find his game. There's a very strong case that he was hurt by being rushed to the NHL and his development would've been better served spending more time in the OHL and AHL refining his offensive game.
You have to mention that Mete wasn't supposed to play such an important role. Alzner was that one pairing with Weber, or Schelmko. But I guess it gave Mete some experience, as long as he didn't lost his confidence, I think it was positive.
 

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We got rid of/lost every Russian player in two years and it was rumored that both Bergevin and Julien were upset about the "Russians" playing cards and laughing on the plane ride back from MSG. They did not exactly treat Markov in a respectful manner in contract negotiations either, with him being 10 games away from 1000 and being a very loyal player to this franchise and one of the leagues better defenders during most of his time here, I am suspicious as to why he was treated this way.

Now that you mention it, I also saw that rumor and how it wasn’t a coincidence that so many from the old Russian guard were let go or not re-upped.

Which doesn’t have anything at all to do with the Russians they’ve drafted since.
 

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We got rid of/lost every Russian player in two years and it was rumored that both Bergevin and Julien were upset about the "Russians" playing cards and laughing on the plane ride back from MSG. They did not exactly treat Markov in a respectful manner in contract negotiations either, with him being 10 games away from 1000 and being a very loyal player to this franchise and one of the leagues better defenders during most of his time here, I am suspicious as to why he was treated this way.
Then we have to go with the rumor of big argument with Bergevin vs the russian players having fun after the last PO game in the plane on their flight back. That would explain a lot. But it's more or less a rumor, I've read it in a newspaper and someone who have indirect contact with the team told me too.
 

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Now that you mention it, I also saw that rumor and how it wasn’t a coincidence that so many from the old Russian guard were let go or not re-upped.

Which doesn’t have anything at all to do with the Russians they’ve drafted since.
It's not the russians as a nation, only 3 specific russians Bergevin didn't like. Refering on their flight back to Montreal, that incident.
 

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The annual carousel of bottom players is just Bergevin being Bergevin.

He’s looking for the next Byron.
Bergevin is a better magician that Houdini, Coperfield or Luc Langevin. He takes a bottom D and transform him into a top pairing D. He takes a 4th line player and transform him into an important role player like Byron. Can t explain how he does it, he's a magician!
 

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It's not the russians as a nation, only 3 specific russians Bergevin didn't like. Refering on their flight back to Montreal, that incident.

I got that. That’s why I referred to them as the old Russian guard — it was something specific to that group, not all Russians.

I also made a distinction between them and the newly drafted Russians to make the point that it had nothing to do about being Russian otherwise how else do we explain the Habs selecting Romanov and The Arsonist.
 
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You have to mention that Mete wasn't supposed to play such an important role. Alzner was that one pairing with Weber, or Schelmko. But I guess it gave Mete some experience, as long as he didn't lost his confidence, I think it was positive.

Mete being rushed to the NHL wasn't positive because he did lose confidence because as good as he was he was put into a role he could only tread water at. The same is likely true for a guy like Brook, without Markov, or some other NHL level offensive player then there's a good chance we end up hurting Brook's development by putting him in a position where he can only tread water (NHL) instead of putting him in a position where he could succeed (AHL).

Now I fully admit at the moment Markov is a wild card, nobody knows if he can still be an NHL player but it's imperative that we sign someone who can play, and Markov is certainly a decent option to consider.
 
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They are not going to sign Markov as long as Julien is the coach. Bergevin let Radulov walk and he was our most talented player, it's not going to happen. We can toss 7-8 million a year in guys that we can bury in the minors but we can't do the right thing and sign Markov for 1 year. There is no risk and if Markov is wanting to come back to the NHL and he can't keep up with the speed of the game, is it the habs that look bad? Markov would not come back if he didn't think he could do it. If Karl Alzner is worth 5 million a year in Bergevin's eyes, signing Markov for one year should be automatic. What if he is afraid that Markov might still be one of our best defencemen?
You are one hundred percent correct.
Any wonder why the modern day Canadiens are easy to dislike....and dismiss.

Concerned that Markov playing good will make Bozo look bad????
Haaaaaaa ! From the school of Harold Ballard Management.
 

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Mete being rushed to the NHL wasn't positive because he did lose confidence because as good as he was he was put into a role he could only tread water at. The same is likely true for a guy like Brook, without Markov, or some other NHL level offensive player then there's a good chance we end up hurting Brook's development by putting him in a position where he can only tread water (NHL) instead of putting him in a position where he could succeed (AHL).

Now I fully admit at the moment Markov is a wild card, nobody knows if he can still be an NHL player but it's imperative that we sign someone who can play, and Markov is certainly a decent option to consider.
Markov or another veteran D Bergevin might sign before season starts, I'm all in for that option to surround new players in a role they will fit in. Actually the only veteran d are Weber and Petry, maybe Chiariot is considered a veretan, but he's new in the team. The actual D corp is still our biggest weakness, even if I consider there is interresting D coming in the next few years.

But for Mete, I'm confident his confidence has not been too affected. Alzner was supposed to take Markov spot and he didn't deliver what was expected. That gave us the worst season 2 years ago and we got Kotkaniemi for that bad season. We filled a hole at center with a quality young center. And we have also Poehling arriving. That makes two good young centers. But the D corp is still our weakness.
 

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We’d be much better off with a bona fide first pairing LD, a puck mover with offensive ability who could contribute to the PP and push Mete down a notch.
 

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Then we have to go with the rumor of big argument with Bergevin vs the russian players having fun after the last PO game in the plane on their flight back. That would explain a lot. But it's more or less a rumor, I've read it in a newspaper and someone who have indirect contact with the team told me too.
Maybe the Russians didn't know that the new "attitude" phase was about to be embarked upon:sarcasm:
It's so Bergevin like to make something or someone a scapegoat rather than to look in the mirror and face his own incompetence. He is a child and he proves it time and time again, it is embarrassing.
 
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That's an interesting thought that hadn't occurred to me. If hypothetically Markov did come back and was a top 4 LD, he'd be fielding questions about why he let him go in the first place with all that cap space.
The weasel will stop at nothing to keep things moving down the path that he has created. He probably could have had Subban back but I do realize that we are not exactly dealing with Sam Pollock or Bill Belichick here. Bergevin and his way or the highway is and will continue to be the single biggest factor that holds this team back. Yes we have some good young prospects but let's watch it unfold, I have zero faith in him.
 

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Now that you mention it, I also saw that rumor and how it wasn’t a coincidence that so many from the old Russian guard were let go or not re-upped.

Which doesn’t have anything at all to do with the Russians they’ve drafted since.
I don't miss too much, it's a curse.
 

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You are one hundred percent correct.
Any wonder why the modern day Canadiens are easy to dislike....and dismiss.

Concerned that Markov playing good will make Bozo look bad????
Haaaaaaa ! From the school of Harold Ballard Management.
Marc Bergevin is all about Marc Bergevin and everyone can see it, he is the single biggest detriment to this team having the success it should have. He inherited a decent team and all he had to do was add to it and yes that would mean that he would have had to make tough decisions along the way but at least he should have turned what he had into something instead of tearing it apart and then have the stupid idea that he actually made things better.

He still forges on with the quest to find the next Paul Byron while being unable to address the real needs of the team, he is wasting time, year after year. Prospects are great and there are some here that are quick to defend him by listing their names but the same people will defend Drouin or Lehkonen because they claim that those players need more time. It would be then safe to conclude(based on their logic) that the 4-5 good young prospects will also need "more time". Posters talk as if Poehling and Suzuki and Brook will walk in and take over and you and I both know that will not happen.

You also know that other teams have good prospects and also that they are not going to sit by and wait for Bergevin to finally get that winning lotto number, proactively well run teams are always trying to get better but we are stuck in transition/rebuild/make the playoffs/reset mode.
 

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Bergevin is a better magician that Houdini, Coperfield or Luc Langevin. He takes a bottom D and transform him into a top pairing D. He takes a 4th line player and transform him into an important role player like Byron. Can t explain how he does it, he's a magician!
Magician? More like a clown... similar, but different...lol
 

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Why did he decided to play in khl? Why did any team took contact with his agent to offer him what he wants, a 2 year contract. There is some mystery around that and nobody can tell the truth unless he have some real infos from inside.
Markov did not have an agent. He was representing himself. That was the reason cited by Bergevin for not signing him, said it was difficult to communicate with Markov without an agent.

Markov himself came out and said he agreed to a one year contract but Bergevin wouldn't listen or respond. It does not come closer to being form "the inside"than this.

As for the mystery, Bergevin was drunk on power for a while. He treated everyone like crap, Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Markov, Radulov, etc...
 
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Markov is certainly a decent option to consider.

Is he? Brett Kulak put up better offensive numbers in the NHL last season than Andrei Markov put up in the KHL. Would anyone honestly want the Habs to sign Andrei Markov had he never played a game for the Canadiens, or would people say it sounds like another BargainBin move?
 
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Is he? Brett Kulak put up better offensive numbers in the NHL last season than Andrei Markov put up in the KHL. Would anyone honestly want the Habs to sign Andrei Markov had he never played a game for the Canadiens, or would people say it sounds like another BargainBin move?
The point is he has played for the Canadiens and we know what he brings to the table. Bargainbin move was not giving Radulov and extra mil or two to stay and crippling our D by lowballing Markov when had more than enough cap space to sign him for what he wanted for 1 year.

Plenty of examples on Brgainbin moves, signing Markov would not be one.
 

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That's an interesting thought that hadn't occurred to me. If hypothetically Markov did come back and was a top 4 LD, he'd be fielding questions about why he let him go in the first place with all that cap space.
Could be a motive for MB to avoid bringing him bac...
But tbh, I woud be flabergasted.
Mete, Chiarot and most likely Kulak are better now.
 

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Without overstating it, adding Markov to our PP would likely get us into the playoffs- and we might leap over the Leafs and play Boston (and you know we'd beat them... then Tampa... and we have zero toughness). Our forwards are young, we can afford to carry a 7th D powerplay specialist. Markov would probably play his way into regular time too. He looks in good shape. Especially if we play possession again... he could bring Juulsen along and Juulsen's attributes could help Markov. Markov's game is all smarts and stickchecking anyway (which is how most d play now anyway). Our neutral zone has more structure now so he wouldn't get burned either. I don't get why we signed Chiarot unless we are trading Weber and needed to add size.
 
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Without overstating it, adding Markov to our PP would likely get us into the playoffs

The Canadiens had two major problems with their power play last season. They didn't win a high enough percentage of face-offs and they had difficulty setting up in the zone. Markov would not be taking face-offs and would not bring the puck up ice, so he would not address either of those problems.
 
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