Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by Gliff, Feb 22, 2021.
Trade Debrusk for an older more expensive Debrusk with more years on his contract?
Any stat bases around leafs and ducks roster arnt exactly a good base. Obviously the guy on leaf has a much better team around him to help produce. Anaheim has essentially nothing around Rakell.
I’m a big Hyman fan, and I think he is arguably the most important player in Toronto’s forward core cause he does all the hard work for the star players. I wouldn’t call him better than Rakell but he’s def a better fit for what Toronto needs
Not saying the Leafs should do it, but Rakell is a better player than Hyman offensively. Rakell factored in on about 23% of all Ducks goals while Hyman factored in on a little over 15% of Toronto's goals. This is a bit skewed because Rakell played 14 more games. Going back to the year before, Rakell factored in on about 22% while Hyman factored in on about 14% (playing in 2 more games than Rakell).
I actually don’t think Rakell is struggling much, he’s been pretty good all year.... a bit unlucky.... and obviously on a team that does very little offensively.
I agree trade offer was crap but if Rakell is moved at deadline, whoever gets him is getting a pretty good injection into their line up
as it isn't possible to retain contract years, the devils likely decline. henrique for two years at full salary wouldn't be an issue for the devils cap. the last two years even at 50% are unwanted.
Looks like you may be seeing Willie Ny The fly By Guy to the Ducks soon.
Jesus all of these are terrible
They all favor the Ducks. What a surprise.
HF in a nutshell
Hyperbole and exaggerations heaped onto a big ol' mountain of overreaction.
I'd go: "Super Delete."
Does such a thing exist?
and then being claimed in the expansion draft?
No thanks on the leafs
I wouldnt do Hyman for Rakell
Hyman is too important and his role and chemistry with almost any center is too valuable to trade. He is a home town boy who will almost surely sign back at a sweet deal
Robertson, lilingren and a 1st is already too much
Robertson is tearing up the AHL after having destroyed the OHL last year. If he is in a deal he is the center piece and I think he would be only put in for a better winger like Forsberg than Rakell/Manson
Lilijgren might be available but he is also having another incredible AHL season this year. Hard to move him without seeing what he can do in an extended look. Manson would cost us Holl or be picked himself in the summer expansion draft.
To piggy back on this, Hyman is the glue that helps other lines work. He is the grit, get the puck back etc. guy... the Leafs probably have a lack of grit overall still, so giving one of the few that has it away, in a trade doesn't make sense. No disrespect to Rakell, who is clearly more talented, we just need a Hyman more than we need a Rakell.
I actually think that Henrique at $2.9 is worth more than a 3rd, the Devils just have no room for more centers. Hughes and Hischier are the top two, but even in the bottom six you've got Zacha, Zajac, McLeod, and Maltsev, so as much as I like Henrique, it's just a terrible fit right now. I agree with the poster that said the NYR should do this, it's exactly what they need.
This in a nutshell. I don’t think anyone will debate rakell is the better player, but Hymans role is so important I dunno if replacing him with Rakell would make the team better, and the “upgrade” def wouldn’t be worth trading a premium asset (Ana can get a better deal elsewhere)
so is it worth it if it helps the leafs win a cup?
I don’t think it helps win a cup.
Not when Manson has only played 3 games due to injury and there's more question marks and concerns about Andersen, if anyone.
Leafs don't need a RW, unless we trade one to you. Leafs don't need a RD.
Leafs needs are a physical LW, that can play in the top six, and an upgrade to 3C.
That physical LW that the Ducks have, that the Leafs need, is probably Comtois. I imagine at this point, a lot of Ducks fans aren't very happy already. Now if you want to discuss Comtois, it starts to get complicated, and probably a pretty big swap of players. Chances are you don't want to discuss Comtois at all, no matter what the return, so it's probably best that we both go our separate ways, if the case.
yeah thats a good point. i wouldnt give up large assets for someone with term.
Maybe, but Hyman is one of the best forecheckers in the league and is extremely valuable to the Leafs. The majority of us would likely want to trade Nylander first, and Nylander is much better than Rakell.
no thx from NJ
As sad as it is, Comtois is leading the team in goals and points (over 0.5 ppg on the absolute WORST offense in the league) plus starting to play a little more physical and hopefully developing into a complimentary top line forward. And he's the right age to fit in to the rebuild. The price on him would be huge to pry him out of Anaheim. Unless he's in a package for a young 1C, I don't see him being moved. The Ducks "only" needs are top line forwards and top pair d-men (and to a lesser extent a 2nd pair RHD, but scoring is more of an issue). Comtois alone isn't going to bring back a top line player, so doubt he gets moved and Toronto's available pieces won't move the needle for him.
Nice to see the Leafs for a change getting the bad end of the stick in trade proposals.
Leaf proposals usually go like this:
(player that Leafs want) in ecxhange for: cap dumps & leftover prospects that they feel are destined to fail.
You spelled “Rakell” wrong for the DeBrusk deal.
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